People Taking Donations Left outside OP Shop

Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 11:44
Last edited 06/01/2024 - 12:01 by 1 other user

I was doing deliveries early in the morning to a shop not opened. Next door there are three OP shops, which is not opening yet, but with donations already lined up in front of the shop but not in a donation bin. There is a clear sign that no donation to be left when shop not open.

Three women was going through all the donations and taking whatever they think is good.

I said to them these belong to the OP shop and they said call the police if you want, we are taking rightfully other people's junk as the sign clearly says no donation to be left before the shop opens so we have the right to claim as there are no donation bins.

Do they have the right to claim since the items are not supposed to be left there and there are no bins also?

Poll Options

  • 271
    1: Legally they can take them as it’s not supposed to be there
  • 37
    2: That’s stealing as it was intended for the charity if caught police can prosecute
  • 79
    3: Grey area I don’t really know
Fashion & Apparel

Comments

  • Settero on 06/01/2024 - 11:50
    +36

    They do not have the moral right , but I don't see a crime for going through items that where illegally dumped, the intent behind dumping the items does not matter , store has made it clear it does not want items dumped, and I bet the mess they left when going through it is why.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 11:52
      +3

      Unfortunately it was a mess and I tried to stop them but no luck. Was still going through them while I left.

      Wonder What happens if the store sign is not there? Do they have the legal right to claim?

      • Settero on 06/01/2024 - 11:57
        +8

        Still don't see a crime , they are terrible people, but that itself does not make for a crime.

        • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 11:59
          +3

          What about the looting mess they left behind? Some items are almost left in the driveway and I picked them up and put next to the shop.

          • markathome on 06/01/2024 - 18:52
            +22

            @Aerith-Waifu:

            Still don't see a crime , they are terrible people, but that itself does not make for a crime.

            Are they though? I used to hate people sifting through disposed stuff when I was young and poor. But now I'm older (and poor), I'm like go for it. The stuff is there to help people out, if it helps you out, great. I think some of the sentiment change is due to me realising just how critical recycle, reuse and waste reduction is.

            Most op shops say they don't want dumping - so let's take them at their word and let people have a look. If you're sifting through the stuff though - please be decent and don't make a mess.

            • CommuterPolluter on 07/01/2024 - 11:45

              @markathome: Guess it depends of the economic situation of those doing the sifting.

            • Murdrum on 07/01/2024 - 17:17
              +3

              @markathome: I'm sure the people sifting through aren't living very comfortable lives, but they're not going to be targeting things they're desperate for. They'll take the things that would have sold in the OP shop.

              This takes revenue away from the charity, which would have helped people who are doing it really tough, like those who need food for their family.

            • Darude Sandstorm on 08/01/2024 - 19:38

              @markathome: Came here to say the same thing when someone was saying it was immoral or that they are terrible.
              Sure - OP shops help others but obviously they take donations, resell, get money, pay staff, donate money etc. It's cyclical, these people might be poor/homeless and can't afford to buy the donated clothes or the clothes that they have been donated may be in poor condition.

              OOOOOR they might be depop 'thrift/vintage' resellers getting items to sell for $100-$1000 each.

              I highly believe, in the majority of cases, they are within their right to clothe themselves instead of struggling as much.

        • nigel deborah on 07/01/2024 - 22:44

          Isn't it theft by finding? Is it their place to determine if something has been dumped or not? If I find $5,000 in cash outside an op shop it would be illegal for me to take and keep it, even if it was surrounded by trash.

        • 1Kenobi on 08/01/2024 - 08:58
          -2

          I assume you are ok with people taking your bike or car if you leave them in public access then?

        • whyisave on 08/01/2024 - 13:56

          TIL being a terrible person is not a crime

          :-P

        • helpme on 09/01/2024 - 11:24

          they are terrible people, but that itself does not make for a crime.

          It should be…

      • grasstown on 07/01/2024 - 16:52

        The people who left the goods for the op shop broke the law and can be prosecuted for dumping. The crap that is left after the three women have taken what they wanted is useless to the op shop. That is why the op shop says no to leaving goods outside hours

    • frewer on 07/01/2024 - 08:45
      +3

      While I morally not agree with them, in current economic situation I cant blame them either

      • juki on 07/01/2024 - 11:41
        +1

        at what point would the economic situation make you blame them ?

        • digitalbath on 08/01/2024 - 09:08
          +1

          When they read a Facebook post stating the opposite about the economy.

      • RefusdClassification on 08/01/2024 - 17:48

        So theft is justified if you are poor?

        • Alley Cat on 08/01/2024 - 18:56
          -1

          That’s been explored by the character Jean Valjean. If someone need something more than I do, so much that they’d resort to stealing/law-breaking, there must be a compelling reason for it and I’m not going to be the one passing judgement.

      • frewer on 09/01/2024 - 20:57

        I said what I said, I dont need to explain myself. Im here to send virtual signal

    • HeWhoKnows on 07/01/2024 - 15:18

      Many items left outside OP shops are considered JUNK and are a huge problem for them.

      Having people take some of the stuff is actually a blessing in disguise!

      So let things be!

  • brad1-8tsi on 06/01/2024 - 11:52
    +16

    Poll Option "1". Where in law does that sit?

    You could also say

    "They can take them because they were dumped"
    "They could take them because the charity hadn't taken possession yet"

    You can buy new items cheaper in the shop than you can at our local Vinnies.

    Charities are no longer charities. They are big business that don't pay tax.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 11:58
      +2

      Depends, I sometimes pick up bargains at OP.

      Just the other day I got a brand new pair of shoes for $5. Retail about $80

      PS:
      My wife just said to me they appear fake lol

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 06/01/2024 - 12:38
        +2

        I will be disappointed if the $5 is not somehow claimed as tax deduction.

        • MS Paint on 06/01/2024 - 13:00
          +1

          Is a handwritten receipt ok Jimothy?

          /#forum.meta - or whatever it is you write

        • RMBC on 07/01/2024 - 08:31
          +2

          Wouldn't be legal; a tax deduction can only be claimed if nothing is received in return. Payments for charity auctions, raffles, lotteries etc are not tax deductible, nor are purchases of goods

    • markathome on 06/01/2024 - 19:19
      +5

      You can buy new items cheaper in the shop than you can at our local Vinnies.

      Charities are no longer charities. They are big business that don't pay tax.

      I almost wrote something similar in my reply. With their pricing, employment disputes and onerous work-for-the-dole participation - Op shop charities are really wearing down their charitable status with the public. It's a shame because there probably are some good eggs out there.

    • ozboygsl on 07/01/2024 - 07:24
      +1

      Very VERY true.

    • 2esc on 07/01/2024 - 10:21
      +3

      Smaller individual op shops run by volunteers usually have better prices and the range is different. My wife likes to browse i usually go in for a quick look usually dont find anything then go wait in the car for her.

      Took my boys camping last year realised i forgot the frypan small town op shop had basically a new one for $5 got me out of trouble.

      Vinnes, Salvos and the Redcross are run by volunteers but the cynical side of me wonders what the upper management staff gets paid.

      Most small op shops are 100% volunteer driven i know of several in Gippsland, Victoria where the shops are provided rent free by individuals in the town.

  • SBOB on 06/01/2024 - 12:13
    +19

    Both the person 'dumping' their donation and the type of person that then picks through the donations are to blame (and poor examples of society)

    The person dumping it isn't doing it to donate the items for charitable reasons, otherwise they would donate them in a way that wasn't dumping them.

    The person digging through the items is taking likely the small number of actual re-sellable items within the bags, leaving the garbage for the charity to deal with.

    The result is mess that the charity has to deal with, dispose of, and pay the associated costs to get rid of the rubbish left everywhere.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 12:24
      -8

      So both can be prosecuted if caught by law? If so I would like to see that

      • Presence on 06/01/2024 - 15:30
        +3

        Not being a smartarse, but curious what you think the second person has done thats illegal?
        And would you change your mind if the same items were dumped outfront a cafe, hairdresser or accountants building?

  • GordonD on 06/01/2024 - 12:24

    In Australia when property is dumped/abandoned it becomes the property of the person whose property it was dumped in or on.

    So if you put your rubbish in your neighbor's garbage bin it becomes the property of your neighbor if their bin was on their property, or the property of the local council if your bin - which is the council's property - was out on the footpath - which is also the council's property - waiting for collection by the council. It is up to the council whether it allows people to go through other people's bins that are out for collection. They may approve of informal recycling, or disapprove of it because it deprives the council of the opportunity to get the revenue from recycling things like empty drink containers themself.

    So the status of things dumped/abandoned outside an Op-shop depends on whether they are on the footpath or on the shop's property. And if they are on the footpath it depends on the local council's rules in that regard. If they are on the footpath then the person who dumped them there has probably committed a dumping/littering offence.

    Council hard waste collections attract people who rifle through what you leave out. For that reason, and to not block the footpath, the council says to leave just within the boundary of your property not on the footpath. That makes it trespass if someone enters your property to go through the hard waste, and theft if they take any of it. Though you may be happy for them to do so.

    I discovered after I moved to Adelaide that people leave things that are still potentially useful to other people on the side of the road to take. I do wish however they'd make it clear they aren't lost, they are there to be taken.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 12:27

      In the case I saw in the morning the items are in front of the op shops on the footpath.

      • freefall101 on 06/01/2024 - 14:39
        +1

        The op shop does not own the footpath.

        • Benoffie on 06/01/2024 - 19:21
          +2

          The council does.

          Gordon's post is 100% correct. There is no such thing as 'public land' in Australia. All land is owned by someone.

          The items either belong to the landholder of the parcel it was dumped on, the Council or, potentially, the State.

          Either way, like all things, nothing is free - technically - in life.

          And yes, Street Bounty is technically illegal and while most councils are happy to ignore it, many really don't appreciate it at all.

          • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 07/01/2024 - 07:48
            +2

            @Benoffie:

            Either way, like all things, nothing is free - technically - in life.

            Check mate

            https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/824855

          • eug on 08/01/2024 - 22:37

            @Benoffie:

            And yes, Street Bounty is technically illegal and while most councils are happy to ignore it, many really don't appreciate it at all.

            It does depend on your local council, but for capital cities this article provides a summary:

            Brisbane:
            "Residents are welcome to recycle kerbside collection goods, however, they should ensure that leftover items are stacked tidily and not creating any obstructions to the footpath or roadway."

            Sydney:
            "Our legal advice is that anyone who picks up items left outside for bulky waste pick up is doing so at their own risk."

            Darwin:
            "Technically the rubbish belongs to the person who put it there until it is removed by Council. If there is something in a pile that people would like to reuse, as a courtesy, they should try to contact the person who put it there to ask if it is OK to take."

            Perth:
            "There is no by-law preventing people from collecting goods relinquished by owners as part of a kerbside collection."

            Adelaide:
            "It is not illegal for someone to salvage any hard waste that has been placed on a kerb. [But] a person must not remove, disburse or interfere with any domestic, recyclable, green organics or hard waste contained within a container (including bottles, newspapers, cans, containers or packaging)."

            Melbourne:
            "The City of Melbourne does not have a specific local law on the practice of searching through hard waste. If a hard waste collection is booked and the items are placed out but a third party collects the waste before City of Melbourne contractors, it is not an offence."

            Canberra:
            "While there are no specific laws in the ACT that make it illegal for people to take items left on nature strips or on the side of the road, we do discourage the public from taking items as it encourages illegal dumping. In addition, the public should be aware that they may be taking items that do belong to another person and should check with the residence prior to taking any items."

        • CommuterPolluter on 07/01/2024 - 11:55

          Not necessarily true. Buildings are often set back from the property line, even in areas like the Sydney and Melbourne CBDs.

    • pn09 on 07/01/2024 - 11:00

      We have done that quite a few times with stuff that it useful - but we always put a large sign which says "take me" - always gone within an hour to two. Usually building supplies (from when we have built houses - that the builder didn't take but are still boxed or in usable condition) and left over things that we will not use but useful for people who want to do something on a small scale like a small reno of a shed, shack, or who just like to repurpose usable stuff.

      Stuff they Op Shop would take we take in person there, and other stuff we take to the dump or put in our hard waste collection.

      I used to take the bus near an Op Shop and some of the staff told me how they have peoples' rubbish dumped there - half eaten food, bags of used nappies, etc. - some really scummy people out there.

      Mattresses are a bad one as people try to save money by dumping them at the op shop even though the op shop won't use them and needs to pay someone to remove them.

    • amzinguserman on 07/01/2024 - 12:24
      +2

      In Australia when property is dumped/abandoned it becomes the property of the person whose property it was dumped in or on.

      This is wrong.

      Think of illegal dumping.

      "haha this 1tonne of asbestos contaminated material is your problem now because its on your land." or even closer

      " the used motor oil container I put in the neighbors recycle bin is their problem."

      It gets complicated when it comes to issues of "ownership" , "Control" and "Possession"

    • nigel deborah on 07/01/2024 - 22:51
      +1

      If they've left it there for the Op shop, has it been dumped?

      If I leave a unmarked parcel at your door, it's obviously not dumped. If I leave the parcel for the Op shop, suddenly it is?

      Does it take a note addressed to the op shop to make it theft rather than looting of dumped 'rubbish'?

      If I had a sign on my doorstep saying 'no parcels' does that allow anyone to freely take any parcels left there?

    • 1Kenobi on 08/01/2024 - 08:38

      It is crown land usually. The council doesn't own it.

    • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 11:06
      +1

      In Australia when property is dumped/abandoned it becomes the property of the person whose property it was dumped in or on.

      Only with consent of the property owner. You can't just unload shit on your neighbors front lawn and say well you own it, it's your problem now.

  • JimmyF on 06/01/2024 - 12:25

    Morally wrong to be cherry picking over for the good stuff, but could be spun that they are 'cleaning up' for the OP shop as it wasn't meant to be left there in the first place.

    • pn09 on 07/01/2024 - 11:05
      +3

      Hard to spin it that way when some of them rummage through the bags and throw the contents aside making a bigger mess for the staff to deal with.

      Similar to the people who go through other people's recycling bins for 10c bottles - I personally don't mind people doing this but I do object if they throw stuff that was in the bin all over the ground as they can't be arsed to do it carefully. I then need to go back and put stuff that was in my recycle bin, back into my recycle bin.

      With the Op Shop approach I think its morally wrong but people will rationalise it how they want to. But people who go through Op Shop stuff carelessly and make a big mess for someone else to deal with - scummy behaviour in my view.

      • JimmyF on 07/01/2024 - 14:35
        -3

        Hard to spin it that way when some of them rummage through the bags and throw the contents aside making a bigger mess for the staff to deal with

        LOL I see my point was missed on you. Carry on with life!

  • mapax on 06/01/2024 - 12:35
    +4

    Trash tier people

  • AustriaBargain on 06/01/2024 - 12:41

    It's obviously stealing. Though the op shop really should have some kind of arrangement for donations other than having people dump them in front of store. Though if I saw a pile of N64 games or something I reckon I'd nick them too…

    • 82norm on 07/01/2024 - 13:18

      How’s it stealing? Pls enlighten me.

      • AustriaBargain on 07/01/2024 - 14:25

        It was left for the charity shop. How is it not stealing?

        • 82norm on 07/01/2024 - 19:47
          +1

          Just because it was left on the doorstep of the Op Shop, who don’t want it anyway, it doesn’t mean it belonged to them. Therefore it’s not stealing.

          • nigel deborah on 07/01/2024 - 22:52
            +1

            @82norm: If I borrowed your bike and returned it to your town house doorstep the next day, it wouldn't be theft for someone to walk up and take it?

            • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 11:11

              @nigel deborah: Is that your actual understanding of this? People have borrowed these items from the OP shop, and are simply returning them…

              • nigel deborah on 08/01/2024 - 11:18

                @trapper: The borrowing part was just context, change it to whatever you want. Maybe you need a bike and I'm giving you mine out of generosity. The point is, items left outside someone's address, clearly intended for them (solicited or otherwise) still belong to someone and are not dumped and free for the taking.

                • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 12:01

                  @nigel deborah: That address has up a sign up out the front saying please do not illegally dump stuff here.

                  Please don't dump your unsolicited 'gifts' on my verge either thanks.

            • Antikythera on 08/01/2024 - 22:14
              +1

              @nigel deborah: why would you leave the bike i lent you unlocked on the doorstep? i'm never lending you anything again.

      • 1Kenobi on 08/01/2024 - 08:43

        If i leave my bike on the roadside unlocked (or my car) you cant take it

        • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 11:12

          If you discard your bike in an illegal trash heap, I can salvage it.

  • Sleeqb7 on 06/01/2024 - 12:52
    +11

    Leaving donations outside of a closed op shop is considered illegal dumping and people are able to take it. Technically, they're cleaning up rubbish left on the street.

    If a donation is left next to a donation box, same deal. However if someone reaches inside the donation box, it's theft.

    Morally speaking, it's a different discussion entirely, but legally it's fair game.
    This is my understanding, at least from a QLD law perspective.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 06/01/2024 - 14:03
      +1

      Your response is totally different to what @GordonD just said…..

      • Sleeqb7 on 06/01/2024 - 22:00

        I disagree, they're saying the same thing I am.

        They said "In Australia when property is dumped/abandoned it becomes the property of the person whose property it was dumped in or on."
        When outside a shop, it's on the street, which is public property, thus littering/dumping, because (functionally) no retail leases include the footpath outside the shop.

        That is also why basically all op shops will have signs saying "No donations to be left outside of business hours" because they know it's illegal dumping that is open to be rifled through.

        • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 12:20

          Not only that but OP shops won't just take any random junk during business hours either, a lot of stuff is not accepted.

  • leiiv on 06/01/2024 - 13:01
    +5

    Morally speaking, in general, does it really matter though? The donations are reused by other people, whoever they are, instead of being put into landfill.

    • pn09 on 07/01/2024 - 11:09

      People pay a small amount to the op shop to get something that is worth more - I would agree with your comment if they also paid $10 or something appropriate to the Op Shop for what they took.

      If people take something from outside then it's reasonable to assume that the Op Shop could also have sold it as it probably wasn't garbage

      • leiiv on 08/01/2024 - 00:24

        OP shop is the middleman. Most people who dump preowned stuff there do that because of convenience and not wanting unneeded items in good condition go to landfill. Sure others do it for religious or other reasons to support the charity of their choice. But I still think the bigger picture is that people want to help others, and that aim may be fulfilled no matter who take the donations. It is reasonable to assume that those who take used stuff from the street are those who need help.

      • trapper on 08/01/2024 - 11:16

        There is normally work required to conduct a sale though.

        In this case no work is required by the OP shop to process this item that they didn't even know existed.

  • netjock on 06/01/2024 - 13:32
    +6

    I had someone leave stuff for the op shop. The op shop didn't like it so they read the address on some of the labels and reported them to the council for dumping and they got a fine.

    OP should go through what they like and don't like it when they need to dump the rest of because it is not profitable.

    OP shops are just another business.

    If you want to donate figure out what they do with it first. Stuff like baby clothes if you give it to material child nurses in low social economic areas they will give them out to families in need.

    • pn09 on 07/01/2024 - 11:10

      Agree with this - unfortunately the "I can't be arsed and someone else will do it if I just dump it" approach often wins out with some people

  • Ozbar Gain on 06/01/2024 - 13:44
    +8

    I did this once. It was a Saturday arvo (op shops closed till Monday morning) and items were dumped on their doorstep. I figured it's not much different to taking things dumped on verges.

    Few hours later and I really started feeling guilty and realised that it was immoral what I've done, but I didn't do anything to rectify the situation.

    By Monday I took back SOME of the stuff to their donation bins (which were now staffed) and they said no, please don't bring that sort of stuff here as they've got enough already. I felt a bit better then!

    Morally, think it's wrong, legally, who cares

    • So Was Red on 07/01/2024 - 15:31

      Haha that's all we ask, at least a little bit of shame/guilt

  • Downvoter on 06/01/2024 - 14:42
    +2

    The offence is steal by find. /thread

    • 1Kenobi on 08/01/2024 - 09:00
      +1

      This.
      The law is not finders keepers.

  • MITM on 06/01/2024 - 15:37
    +6

    Unfortunately the OP shop is left with the dregs and have to pay for disposal from funds which otherwise would go to the needy and admin.
    Legitimate donators should be more responsible, for others, it's a cheap method to dump unwanted belongings.

  • foxmulder on 06/01/2024 - 16:10
    +1

    I was in Salvation Army to donate and they say they didn't receive donations at that time. Fine. I saw a nice containers in their skip bin, ask the guy work there, not allow to take anything even I'm sure they will go to landfill.

  • bargain huntress on 06/01/2024 - 16:41
    -2

    I dont think the police will do anything, so;

    Did you take a video on your phone?

    If so upload to a social and see it go viral and them get named and shamed.

    If not remember to take a video if you see them again. Try your best to get their faces good.

  • Cherry12 on 06/01/2024 - 18:52
    +2

    I think people who just leave their bags outside an opshop,just want to dump their rubbish onto someone else.

    There usually are proper donation bins in the train stations. It is not hard for people to do the right thing.

    Both sides are morally wrong, I don't think the police would bother to prosecute either of them.

    • pn09 on 07/01/2024 - 11:11
      +1

      I've heard some nasty stories of the rubbish that people dump in the donation bins also :-(

      • Cherry12 on 08/01/2024 - 02:13

        Ohh, too bad. I only put things in good condition.

        They shouldn't be receiving landfill.

    • ThadtheChad on 09/01/2024 - 09:47

      The frequency of clearing these bins is absolutely (profanity) terrible.

  • payless69 on 06/01/2024 - 19:08

    With Webull throwing money at you I saw what looked like an Opshop called Endeavour.
    Now somebody tells me they are the 3rd largest staples firm preventing dehydration of the vulnerable.
    Now I am confused!

  • Benoffie on 06/01/2024 - 19:15
    -2

    What is going on here today? This hurts my head as a Humanities teacher. Reasons why more than 2 weeks a year needs to be spent on Civics 😡

    Geez, item left on private property. Can I take it?

    Hmm… 🤔

    • Flying Ace on 06/01/2024 - 21:21

      The donations weren't on private property.

      • Benoffie on 06/01/2024 - 21:22
        -1

        So they were where? On the footpath? Ie, council property?

        'Next door there are three OP shops, which is not opening yet, but with donations already lined up in front of the shop but not in a donation bin. There is a clear sign that no donation to be left when shop not open.'

        They were left in front of a shop. Shop is private property.

        How is it people don't understand this? Just because there isn't a fence, doesn't make it public.

        • Heisse1432 on 07/01/2024 - 09:32
          +3

          Teacher fail

  • EmCKay on 06/01/2024 - 21:23
    +2

    Previously worked for the Salvos. We constantly had items left outside the premises especially on public holidays. We were not allowed to bring any of it in for sorting as it could have been contaminated by insects, rodents, weather, people etc etc

    • leiiv on 06/01/2024 - 21:48
      +1

      This change the whole moral thing then. Morally, it is good to take things "illegally" dumped outside the OP shop. Otherwise, they will go to landfill instead.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2024 - 08:32
      -1

      Pull the other one champ, you're selling 5 year old t shirts with falls in them for $7 most of the time, why wouldn't we just go to Kmart?

      • EmCKay on 07/01/2024 - 11:23

        I worked for the Salvos before they fell into the trap of gaining a CEO. It’s been over a decade since I was there. It used to be up to the Store Manager to decide pricing to a point. Our store in Western Sydney had an incredible manager who was completely fair and transparent. Items going missing before hitting the sales floor was unheard of. When she retired, the new manager jacked up all the prices to insane levels and 90% of the staff left.

  • leiiv on 06/01/2024 - 22:11
    +2

    I think every council or state should run a real charity in form of "reuse" centres, where people can go dump whatever that normally goes to OP shops, and they can take things dumped there as well for free. The centres should be small and distributed throughout population centres. Corporations don't like this because it can potentially reduce their sales.

    I would say most people who donate stuff do so because they don't need them anymore and it just feels wrong to throw them away to the bin. But at the same time it's just too much hassle to sell them online. That's why they just dumped them to the OP shops. From the environmental and humanity perspective, it is better to take things that would otherwise go to landfill.
    Remember, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

    • Alley Cat on 08/01/2024 - 19:14

      We have one at our local tip. If it’s functional furniture they won’t charge you to take them in. No idea if people are charged for taking them home tho. Fb/gumtree is a good place for this but agreed if it’s setup as some sort of a ‘fair’ it’s much easier.

  • FocusRider on 07/01/2024 - 07:52
    +2

    Whatever happened to mind your own business.

    • Aerith-Waifu on 07/01/2024 - 20:58

      When lots of items end up in the drive away and potentially causing unwanted accident, I think I did the right thing by saying something and also put the items on the driveway back to the footpath.

  • Grunntt on 07/01/2024 - 08:26
    +1

    So if the OP Shop doesn't own the property outside their store why is it up to them to pay for disposal?

    Isn't it the responsibility of Council to remove illegal dumping and then investigate it's origin?

  • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2024 - 08:31

    Times are tough, Australia is basically North Korea without the weapons. Australia sells rocks for a living and it's citizens have the gall to think they actually contribute to the world! Sorry middle manager Michael on 110k you are useless.

  • saltypete on 07/01/2024 - 08:59

    Op shop not far from where I live in the city. Items left after hours are regularly scrounged through, fought over, strewn over footpath and road. Winter time donated blankets left in the rain for council to clean up.
    Apparently this is all OK because they’re poor and homeless……

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