Sharp price on the Bluetti EB3A
It holds 268wh of power and delivers up to 600w of pure sine wave 240v (1200w surge)
Has LIFEPO4 battery so its safer in the car than lithium-Ion and allegedly can be charged 2500 times. Can fast charge in less than an hour.
Can be solar panel charged and also functions as a UPS.
Bluetti are more established than some of the recent newer power station companies and are generally considered pretty reliable.
This one has much faster recharge times and generally is a more established and recognised company - although slightly smaller capacity (268wh)
VTOMAN are offering more for less (299Wh) but are less well known - they both have 2 year warranties.
Can you state the model name and/or number for the Vtoman thanks?
As I now have 2 X Allpowers R600's ( V1 & V2 ) after being too tempted with the beige $199 deal
from 2/12/23 I do not need anymore of this size, although all along this is what I originally wanted lol.
These are very good with great reputation and follow up service, and a great price K T.
I am now happy to make my own 100Ah big Power station as I have all the components already
and can customise it the way I want too. Couple of work arounds to get a high 100W usb c pd output,
need to wire up a 15A-20A cig female socket and plug in a 100W buck charger such as this one which I got.
There was an eBay deal for the Jump 600X with the 17% off code just before Christmas - it came in at $323.69. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/821532
Specs are good but it is let down by slow charging speeds (65w). The Larger VTOMAN models look really excellent value but are in a higher price bracket.
I would like the new Flashspeed 1500 model as its got everything you would want and holds 1548Wh. Any larger capacity and weight starts to be a factor. They start getting up over 20kg.
Overall I think good things will come to those that wait. IE these are popular now over summer but I bet they sell a lot less over winter months and hopefully we should see some good deals. Right now is probably prime time for the companies that sell these.
Is this boombox 600W peak or RMS? ;)
Description
600W AC PURE SINE WAVE INVERTER (1,200W SURGE);
epic!
Haha,….buy one and try and report back here please.
12 amp hours for $399 almost purchased this bluetti . Then had the companion rover recommended to me.
Companion rover 40 amp hours $529 a few weeks ago or $599 from companion 40AH Lithium LiFePO4 Battery $569 BCF/ anaconda . Does a good job of keeping my small compressor fridge/ freezer going in my car when car engine off.
https://www.companionoutdoor.com/rover-lithium-40ah-power-st…
To be fair they are claiming the 12Ah @ 22v for some reason (268Wh) Whereas the Companion is 40Ah @ 12.8v, so 512Wh for the Companion - that's pretty good bang for the buck. The only negatives that I can see are slow charging and of course, no 240v outputs
I left it on with nothing attached for a couple of days and battery percentage didn't drop. Have been told with the inverter left on it drains power even if nothing attached. That is why I ended up going the non bluetti 240 v route in the end.
I know that I am likely to forget to turn it off when nothing attached as I proved the first week I used it.
The Allpowers R600 has a 240V auto shut off if no current is detected after a certain
amount of time as well as dc outlets but many hours longer. Maybe the Bluetti has a similar
feature which could explain little/no power loss after being on for some time if nothing is
connected drawing power?
P.S. what brand and model do you have ?
@ozhunter68: Bluetti auto-shuts down after 4 hours of no-load or low load (less than 10 watts AC or 1 watt DC) when in "eco mode", which is the default mode of the unit.
I see a lot of these deals lately. What is the ideal use case for these type of batteries?
Camping for one, back up power when blackout maybe, UPS…….
i have an ecoflow
helps for "ausgrid outages" and camping fridge and if i want to wfh from a park or nice scene
Keep mine in car for fridge( but it's 40 amp hours). But also has multiple USB A and C outlets.
It's good when you are away from home, be that Costco trips, supermarket or travelling off-grid for a few days.
How does it go with sitting in the car during hot days like we've been having recently? Any concerns it might get too hot?
LifePO4
Not normal lithium. Supposed to be stable.
Unlike the older cheaper lithium batteries.
Advantages of LiFe PO4 batteries
https://blog.ecoflow.com/au/benefits-of-lithium-iron-phospha…
This is 12Ah, isn't that bad?
120ah lithium battery costs the same. Combine that with battery box for $50 and inverter and you have something that will last 10 times longer assuming I'm correct
Depends.
I got the battery and battery box for $450 at 4wd supacentre 2 days ago.
Inverter is if you need a 24v socket otherwise a battery box will suffice.
The size, weight, convenience, portability seems to be about the same.
The size, weight, convenience, portability seems to be about the same
Nah, are you kidding? Yours is chunky, ugly and weighs more than 16kg and requires two hands to carry, vs bluetti's 4.6kg and easy carry handle.
Yours has no info about battery output levels, charge status and remaining power. You can't check battery levels. You could buy the additional panel but that's messy. Bluetti has percentage remaining display and detailed power output levels.
Can't place anything on top of yours, it's not flat. Bluetti can be tucked into shelf, everything accessible from front panel.
Can't charge yours with mains power without buying a separate charger and hoping you have the right plugs.
Inverter is handy to have.
I'm not saying battery box bad, I'm saying get a modern lightweight power station too. Because they are good.
@cerealJay: Interesting didn't know it was that light.
Also please tell me you are joking about the 2 people needed to pick up battery
@michael9865: Good points made on the Bluetti Power Station, and also big up for the larger
capacity 100Ah ? and battery box from Kings (or other), both have pros and cons and I have two
of each to supplement my off grid van that I spend 80% full time year round and supplies all my
power needs in that time (appart from going to a laundromat lol). One of my 100Ah Lithium
batteries has bluetooth app to check many more stats and history than a power station will
ever show including age, two temperature readings, cycle count, 10 possible errors and much
more interesting specs for geeks like me. I also use a Victron Smart Solar Charger that also
has bluetooth so get up to date info there also if needed. My next custom battery box medium
size/weight will be a custom made box made from light plywood, most likely a 120Ah LiPo4
battery, 2000W/4000W surge Power Inverter, Full display battery monitor/shunt, mppt smart
solar charger/controller, USB A QC3/4 and USB C PD 45W+ as well as a few Anderson plugs
and 15-20Amp cig out so I can plug in a 100W USB C PD etc.
This will be bigger and heavier than a similar spec/cap off shelf power station,
but for me fun to put together, cheaper, Servicable by myself or others, and pretty much
how I want it.
In saying that, I also have two small Power Stations and love the compact size and weight ,
as well as good specs for size, but boy do they have their limits capacity wise.
The small ones such as the one posted here or the Allpowers R600 are great for charging phones, t
ablets, laptops and the odd small 240V appliance, but will only power a small to medium
fridge for 4-8 hrs and in most case not fully overnight as I found out lol.
In theory the DIY route seems better, but in reality the BluETTI’s are pretty hard to beat.
BluETTIs are a 24v system meaning the inverters have far more head room for starting compressors and pack way higher wattages for the compact size.
I’ve got a EB70 (1000W) and also some pretty decent 12v systems - you can’t beat the BluETTIs inverter with a 12v one, it just doesn’t compare.
Massive downsides to BluETTIs are the fan noise, and some models only being able to take 200W Charging and others around 400W which might not be enough to replenish some heavy AC loads.
Also, tell me how I can get 100W USB-C output from a 12v system to charge high power laptops - I haven’t found a solution to this on 12v
I like your thinking, although there is a use case for both scenarios, which suits different people on different budgets.
How long will this last charging a 75l portable fridge/freezer with average power consumption of 80w, DC current draw of 6A
Haha, good question, I will find out soon as I have a dual zone 75 lt I will test power with a similar power station to this.
Really depends on many variable factors, mainly temperature on said day and if full or half empty etc.
I tried it on a full cold 45 lt on a 32 C day from 7pm ( temp was around 27 c ) and when waking around 6 am the power
station was off on 00%. Using my 100Ah (true capacity) it uses between 10-20% in that same time/temp.
At a guess it will run a 75 lt fridge in average conditions anywhere from 4-7 hrs as long as fridge is in shade
and well vented.
Mate what was the temp in the fridge and do you have a rough estimate when it taped out? Got the pack from the previous deal and have a 40l fridge, was hoping that it would be enough to power the fridge through the night when camping.
Good question, now you are forcing me to get my calculator out (or old school math with pen and paper lol). Don't stress, was hot here and I might have connected it from 6pm before dark here in Qld and slept in till 6.30 am lol. Seriously, if the fridge is cold similar to a house fridge 3-5 C preferably 2-4 C when connecting power station to fridge, it should still be cold below an acceptable 6-7c in the early morning up until 6-7am if the day was an average SEQ/NNSW summers day of 28 C to 32 C because it's colder at night and everything by evening should by then be cold And fridge is not usually opened then till brekky.
Short answer between 2-4 C as thermostat is set to 3 C.
$400 for 268w (670$ per 1kw), :-( where are all those $100 per 1kw on pack level that all analysts talking about…
This or the vtoman when it comes back around the $300ish mark