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JBL LSR305P MK II speaker pairs. Seems to be lowest price for a pair, over $100 is a free shipping.
JBL LSR305P MK II Pair $338.30 Delivered @ Belfield Music
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Could these be used as ridiculously large computer speakers (100cm sitting distance)
My current use! absolutely no regrets! Almost my exact distance too lmao would 1000% recommend for that use
Did you need anything extra? DAC or anything? Or just a 3.5mm cable?
@Morien: they are self powered so no amp needed but I do have an audio interface for my xlr mic anyways so I use that, you probably would need some sort of dac to connect them to since they use either xlr or 5.25 input balanced and unbalanced
sometimes i sit behind my dipole speaker (maggies 3.7i) to enjoy the music.
I also use them like this, the one caveat imo is the quiet but noticeable hiss at monitoring distances. It's not a deal-breaker but worth keeping in mind.
I haven't heard these, but I found the 308s a really excitable and bassy listen. Not so much accurate, but still great speakers.
Maybe the 305s are better in that respect.
In an untreated room (which is most peoples') pretty much anything can happen, so no guarantee that the 305s would be better. Having said that, I'm using the 305s and am about to sell my 308s as this room is better with the 305s.
Are these studio monitors for music production?
Yeah theyre studio monitors, they are sold by JBL Professional, their pro line of products
Yeah, I opened the link. I was just editing, thank you.
These are 5", are they good enough for techno, house music?
I got old Dynaudio, 7' I think but their US plug so it's a pain running transformers.
I know people run multiple monitors in a home studio set up these days.
Honestly when I bought them I tried them side by side the 308s which are the 8" variant and they were mainly just louder and had slightly more low end(as expected). These aren't particularly bassy since they are accurate studio monitors but you can buy a subwoofer to go with them I think its the JBL LSR310S. With that said the monitors do have a very nice low end its just not crazy boosted like party speakers are.
@fAffY: "I tried them side by side the 308s which are the 8" variant and they were mainly just louder and had slightly more low end(as expected)."
yup that's how it should sound if you are at the same listening distance for both monitors. but being nearfield monitor speaker, the larger monitor is simply designed with slightly more headroom for a farther listening distance. this is the way it is with all studio monitor line ups they simply get bigger with more powerful amplification to give an equal experience at further distance.
e.g. the closer you are to a 5 inch monitor, the more perceptible and louder SPL the output will be below ~40hz. the further away you are from a 8 inch monitor, the less perceptible and quieter SPL the output will be below ~40hz.a 5 inch monitor can give adequate experience when placed correctly and if you only sit as far away as you do from your PC monitor. yes some people maintain the same distance an upgrade to 8 inch model to achieve increased bass extension, but if deeper bass is your goal this is a wrong move. as you said better to keep the 5's and buy the sub instead of 2x 8 inch monitors.
You will want a sub if you are a bass junkie. They don’t sound bad without it (far from it!) but if you want big low end there’s only so much a 5” speaker can do.
Would these be suitable for a left right home cinema speakers?
Seems these are “studio monitors” - probably too neutral sounding for home theatre.
No such thing as "too neutral sounding", just EQ them (which neutral speakers are much better at than non neutral speakers) if you want it to sound different.
You'd be better off buying speakers designed for that purpose.
No, these speakers are going to work much better than average home theatre speakers because they have been designed correctly with a neutral frequency response (unlike most speakers that are not designed to reproduce the intent of the mastering engineer and instead designed to have a brand's inaccurate "house" sound that they come up with for product differentiation) and have a good off axis response (due to the waveguide) that means that they will still sound good when not directly in front of them.
However, they are designed as near field monitors which means that the response has been optimised for a listener sitting close to them, rather than far away on a couch. I don't disagree that they would still sound good, but speakers designed for home theaters should be better optimised for the listening distance of a home cinema.
No, unless you listen to them at low volume or sit close to the TV. They are designed for nearfield listening so will distort at high volume. Also might be hard to integrate with your AV receiver and surround sound setup.
If you're serious about sound get an ac receiver and passive speakers. otherwise a surround sound soundbar is fine.
What's the difference in 305P and LSR305?
Figured they're the same 😂 I bite!
Will compare these with my Trusty Edifier S3000pro, only for their detail. Bass can't be matched as they're different size drivers 5.25" and 6.5"
I'll be interested in hearing your opinion when comparing the two.
Very keen on reading your thoughts as well. Currently using a pair of Edifier R2000DB at my computer which I really enjoy for their versatility in detail and musicality, but have always been curious about the S3000pro
Mine are delivered 😂
Need to set them up, they're so small. I feel like I need to put them on the desk with some foam isolation feet.
I have always wanted them, like since 2012, ever since I heard them. It's a dream come true, after a decade of waiting. BTW I wanted 6" version lol
@sqheaven: It's a good starter, can always buy a 2nd set of 8-12".
Most home setups I see these days run duel monitors.
I'll probably scout used markers, people always selling.
@Bystander: They do 😂 it you turn the gain down, then you can tolerate them.
For example, I am at 12 o' clock, which is 10 clocks, total 20 clocks. I can hear both speakers hiss form about 1.5m
KRK also hiss, that's why I never bought them. I think it's something related to Class D amps.
Edifier S3000pro don't hiss, at least I never noticed them at all volumes. Dead silent.
OK so these are nothing like Edifier's. The planner tweeter is heavenly.
You'd need isolation pads or a decent stand to place these. Edifier do come with nice feet. These don't. So mow my table is taking a lot of vibrations.
I'd probably let them go :s Maybe wait for them to break in before I decide but they're no way near Edifier lol
@sqheaven: Thanks.
Looks like there's a good reason that the Edifier's cost almost 3 times the price of these JBL's.
What I like about the Edifiers is that they are wireless and have BT.
What I don't like about them is that there is nowhere that I know of that you can go and listen to them before buying.@Bystander: I think the construction on Edifier is well built, if you knock on the cabinet you don't hear anything, cheap cabinet color the sound. JBL 306 is in the same range as Edifier S3000pro. Their FR are also very identical. Considering 305's features, I think S3000pro is a clear winner here in both sound and features.
Both speakers are enjoyable, I am keeping both. It's something like you sniff coffee beans to reset you nose receptors before you try on a different perfume.. 😂
JBL 305 are as big as S3000pro, but I still managed to put them on my sit stand desk. I can raise the height to ear level and enjoy some tracks. S3000pro are huge to be put on the desk 150 x 70cm
This is a very good price!
Great price for some very nice studio monitors! Bought them years ago at over $400 for the pair, currently have it paired up with the LSR310S sub and enjoy them very much for music listening on the PC. I do feel though that if you like listening to music at lower volumes the sound can feel a bit “boxed in”; the speakers really shine and open up when you crank up the volume IMHO.
Besides that very little to complain about at the price, nicely detailed with good extension without the sub and also not having to spend more money on an amp being active monitors. They have a very good wide soundstage but I do find soundstage depth bit lacking.
That's dynamic range you're talking about, only maybe 10k monitors can do that, to maintain their FR at all levels
100%. Can't expect the world at that price point haha. Though I will say at the time when I was buying I was doing a side by side with a similarly priced Mackie (IIRC MR528 or something like that it's been many years lol) which I thought did better at lower volume and had more soundstage depth but the JBL wins hands down at soundstage width as well as extension into the lower frequencies which was why I got the JBL (especially at the time I wasn't even looking at the sub).
Did you find a big improvement with the sub? or is it not super necessary, I've been thinking of buying one for a while but its a little pricey
I think there is a clear improvement but not in the blown away night and day sort of way. I am just a casual audiophile and not like a sound engineer or someone who can tell you there is a bump at a specific frequency lol so take my very subjective impressions with a grain of salt here: when I added the sub I definitely hear and feel more depth/weight/definition in the lower end and felt the overall clarity and sound opened up more which would make sense as a lot of that heavy lifting has been taken away from the monitors and handed over to the sub. Definitely noticeably improved my enjoyment of the setup but again I wouldn't call it night and day difference either.
Thank you so much for this, makes perfect sense and I'm very similar in terms of I enjoy good audio but couldn't tell you specifics hahaha
@fAffY: All good my man! I think a big part of it is that the low end extension of the JBL 305P's are already very good so adding a sub simply enhances the overall experience as opposed to completely changing it.
Agreed. The sub is EXXY so I haven't bothered with it, not worth it for the difference it makes. (And they're virtually never on special.)
@mickeyjuiceman: Yea definitely a case of diminishing returns with the sub haha. I managed to get it at 15% off during a sale a couple of years back so it wasn't as bad, can't say I regret the purchase either as it did definitely improve my experience.
Are these the best in the price range? I've seen a few posts over the years, various brands.
Something better would be, Adam Audio A5, but why do you need something better?
Yes and its not even close. watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHzBUHlSlww
Note: 306p and 305p perform similarly. One is just smaller driver.
I’ve got a zeppelin Air as my front speaker for a racing simulator. Could I use these are rears? What would I need to add to my PC to run the Zepplin Air and these together at the same time for surround sound?
Or am I flat out doing it wrong? 😅
Anyone used these as a guitar speaker using modeller or fx software?
All the time, as they're my studio monitors
Thanks, how do you find it? Can it be used as stand alone speaker without connecting to PC?
My music producer friend said this is an amazing price for these, he's a sound engineer.
I can't imagine you can do better for a home set up for music production.
I will probably buy.
If your friend is Dr Dre, ill bite.
was looking for some monitors to go with my new Mixon Reloop 4 - thanks Santa!
DJ City wouldn't price match (had a voucher) but either way this is a great deal, thanks OP! Grabbed a set! (Now need that sub!)
I was out for most the day, go to buy and sold out.
Just started getting into audio. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a DAC/Amp that can be used with this and can also be used for future headphone purchases too (say 6xx). Is the SMSL DL200 (~A$230) suitable or are there better options around the price?
These are self-powered
Sorry if this is a dumb question but how do you output from a computer to these speakers? Would you need a DAC with a balanced output
I had a fair bit of background noise coming out of a PC with 3.5mm -> XLR with these with one of my PC's but not with an older one.
Balanced output DAC / audio interface / mixer works more reliably without static / background noise.
Really depends on your setup. Are you using a sound card? Onboard? What kind of connections 3.5mm jack or RCA or XLR?
In my case I have an USB DAC (SMSL M200) and assuming you are just getting the pair of monitors and not the subwoofer the DAC connects to the PC via the supplied USB cable, the DAC then connects to a passive volume control like the Mackie Big Knob I am using (which I highly recommend as the speaker pair are technically individual monitors with it's own volume knob and connections) with 2 separate cables (can use RCA or XLR with my DAC) for the left and right channels then you'd need 2 more cables to output the left and right channels from the volume control to the monitors. I have my monitors set to like 90% volume and use the passive volume control to adjust loudness.
Hope that made sense haha.
Are these more suitable than KEF Q150 as Desktop speakers?
these are active and dont require amplification, the Kef's do. Different purposes too…
(profanity) i just bought this at $400
Argh, sold out.
Always wanted a pair of these, although I hear they hum when there's no signal? And man they're ugly compared to classic JBLs.
"although I hear they hum when there's no signal? "
if you hear hum it's likely a ground loop issue or noise in the signal entering the amplifier which is common if you directly plug it into the motherboard audio output on your PC.
if you mean "hiss". yes a lot of the cheapest studio monitors have audible hiss due to using cheaper amplification boards.
Yes, I was referring to the hiss, I doubt reviews would be complaining about ground loop hum. I would be pretty annoyed with hiss/white noise in something with this RRP.
The hiss thing is massively overblown - mine run 24/7 with the levels set to max, and yes, you can (just) hear hiss if you put your ear against the driver, but at about 800mm or so? Not a thing.
@mickeyjuiceman: There's clearly a lot of variation because I've read some reports of it being noticeable to a listener any time music isn't playing.
not sure if you have experienced both. but almost always ground loop hum is louder and the worse of the two.
the hiss/white noise depends on the listeners ears and the acoustic properties of the room. that's why it's more noticeable for some, while others say they cannot hear it at all from a normal listening distance.
safe to say if you are playing something on the speakers, any hiss is inaudible.
@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: I'm very familiar with AC hum (fix vintage hifi gear as a hobby), have never personally heard a pair of these monitors. I almost bought some at one stage and the reported hiss was enough to put me off.
@caitsith01: yeah sure I know now, but before I just thought I should explain it anyway because you seemed to mix up hum and hiss.
to me a hum covers a much wider frequency range especially lower frequencies so it's noise that's definitely not able to be ignored.
hiss meanwhile is usually used to describe a very quiet very high frequency noise, which I would hesitate to call "noise" because it's so subtle.
Massively vouch for these as high detail accurate monitors that sound great and punchy! A steal even at 400 for the pair imo