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Visa-Free Entry to Kenya for Australian Passport Holders (Was US$51)

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Visa-Free Entry to Kenya for Australian Passport Holders (Was US$51)
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Taegukgi on 13/12/2023 - 18:11 evisa.go.ke (1856 clicks)
Last edited 12/01/2024 - 17:24 by 2 other users

As reported -

Starting January 1, 2024, the Kenyan government has abolished visa requirements for international travellers visiting the East African nation. The move to allow visa-free entry aims to boost trade and tourism within Kenya. The tourism industry, crucial to Kenya’s economy, offers diverse experiences, including inland wildlife safaris and beach holidays.

President William Ruto, a staunch supporter of visa-free travel, during an event commemorating Kenya’s 60th anniversary of independence from the United Kingdom, expressed, “It is no longer necessary for anyone from any corner of the globe to bear the burden of applying for a visa to come to Kenya.”

Mod 12/1/24 - Kenyan authorities have since clarified that while the country grants visa-free entry, visitors need to apply for electronic travel authorisation (ETA) by submitting documentation and paying a $30 processing fee. The requirement also applies to countries whose citizens previously had unrestricted access to Kenya. More info

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Comments

  • linkindan on 13/12/2023 - 18:15
    +26

    stares in Mastercard

    • bigbadboogieman on 13/12/2023 - 18:19
      +9

      stares in Yellow fever

    • thebargainhunter on 13/12/2023 - 21:34
      +1

      Kenya even use MasterCard in The Village Market in Gigiri?

      • Morven on 14/12/2023 - 15:32
        +1

        Everybody uses M-Pesa. Transaction by mobile phone.

    • Sopzo on 14/12/2023 - 07:49
      +1

      I don't get it

      • linkindan on 14/12/2023 - 07:55
        -1

        Ok

        • Sopzo on 14/12/2023 - 08:03
          +2

          Appreciate it mate, thanks

      • DogeConomy on 14/12/2023 - 08:27
        +17

        Visa and mastercard are both common credit/debit card networks, e.g look at your own cards you have from the bank and you'll probably find one of the two on there.
        The joke's interpretation of "Visa free" is that you don't need a Visa card to enter the country anymore, but "mastercard" is left out.

        • Dinjay on 14/12/2023 - 08:36
          +4

          I missed the joke too - pre my morning coffee. Thanks for the explanation. 🙏

  • xyron on 13/12/2023 - 18:15
    +21

    Not that $51 would have been the difference between me going to Kenya and not going, I hear that it is one of the few truly great places to visit in Africa (along with its neighbour Tanzania). Would love to get there one day!

      • callum9999 on 13/12/2023 - 19:38
        -5

        I take it no-one can actually justify the staggeringly ignorant statement that Kenya is "one of the few truly great places to visit in Africa"? There are dozens of places across the continent that are just as good as, if not better than, Kenya.

        This certainly isn't a view that's shared by any travel guides I can find. What do the experts at Ozbargain know that they, and I, don't?

        • cheng2008 on 14/12/2023 - 10:02
          +1

          Mind sharing which ones?

          • Ali1994 on 14/12/2023 - 11:53

            @cheng2008: Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Madagascar etc.

            • [Deactivated] on 10/01/2024 - 00:25

              @Ali1994: come on Ali, who wants to get robbed by everyone from kids through to grandpa with a walker in Morocco,Egypt and Tunisia.

          • callum9999 on 14/12/2023 - 12:31
            +3

            @cheng2008: Sure, though it obviously depends on what you like. My favourites (though I've not been everywhere so I'm sure there are more) are:

            South Africa
            Uganda
            Namibia
            Zimbabwe
            Botswana
            Morocco
            Madagascar

            While I've not been personally, Egypt, Ethiopia, Seychelles and Mauritius are pretty high on my list to try as well.

            The reason I made these objections are that I find it annoying how many people just blindly believe stuff they've just heard someone say (an example closer to home, the number of people I've heard say rubbish like "just go to the South Island in NZ because there's not much to do on the North" etc.) and I think there's still a lot of negative stereotyping and unjustified prejudice towards Africa - a lot of people still act like it's a hell hole of poverty with little redeeming features even there's so much there.

    • backupper1 on 13/12/2023 - 18:48

      Tanzania is very beautiful, although hot.

    • countmein on 13/12/2023 - 19:35
      +3

      Never been, where to go?

      • xhanatos on 13/12/2023 - 20:33
        +5

        A couple of days in Nairobi, visit the National Park and the Giraffe Center.
        Then go to Maasai Mara, and/or Amboseli (nice view of Mt Kilimanjaro).
        Go to Mombasa (coast) if you haven't blown your budget, or fly to Zanzibar (which is in Tanzania).

        • CacheHunter on 13/12/2023 - 20:52

          There's heaps to do. Where in the crater you go should depend on where the migration will be at the time that you're visiting. There's something magical about lines of zebras or wildebeest stretching from one horizon to the other. Of course, where's there's prey, there's also the hunters.
          Make sure too, to look beyond the animals and stop off and spend some time getting to know the people and what makes them tic. I'm my experience, if you're friendly and respectful, they'll point you to some of the hidden gems off the main tourist track.

        • duluxe2000 on 13/12/2023 - 22:32

          Is it easy to make travel plan myself or have to use a tour ?

          • xhanatos on 08/01/2024 - 10:17
            +1

            @duluxe2000: Sorry for not responding - been busy at work.

            You can plan it yourself, but not as easy as doing it in Vietnam, Thailand etc.

            You definitely need to do some homework - schedule the trip around the Great Migration, book accommodation well in advance because if you wait, the decent/affordable safari lodges would be fully booked. The safari lodges will have their own people that can give you guided tours.

            I personally have not done full packaged tour. Last time I went to the Mara, I first booked accommodation at Mara Intrepids Camp then worked the logistics around this.

    • derdew on 15/12/2023 - 09:17

      I've luckily travelled to many countries- a safari in the Masai mara is the most amazing thing I've ever experienced so far, closely followed by Angkor wat and Kakadu!!

  • nightelves on 13/12/2023 - 18:15
    +8

    Perfect for this expired deal whoever booked it: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/819484

    • easternculture on 13/12/2023 - 18:20
      +2

      That was for Riwanda

      • Imposter on 13/12/2023 - 18:21
        -1

        Kenya similar price

      • Oztx on 13/12/2023 - 21:51
        +1

        Riwanda

        Isn't that the place where UK want to send illegal immigrants to, to establish a new penal colony?

        (jk about second part,… Maybe)

        • 1st-Amendment on 14/12/2023 - 09:29
          +2

          Isn't that the place where UK want to send illegal immigrants to

          No that's Rwanda. I think Riwanda might be in Wakanda…

      • zzzzzz on 16/12/2023 - 02:00

        Stopover at Kenya

  • Gdsamp on 13/12/2023 - 18:20
    +4

    Excellent, I will put that money towards a new passport.

    • Wally on 13/12/2023 - 18:28
      +12

      across the Ditch in NZ they only have to pay $NZ210 for their passport - the Aussie passport fee is one of the highest in the World >.< and is rising TWICE next year by 15% by the 1 July 24 FFS

      • Gdsamp on 13/12/2023 - 18:31
        -3

        Albo's Australia

      • Spendmore on 13/12/2023 - 18:38
        -1

        Look at a UK passport!$$

        • Wally on 13/12/2023 - 18:57
          +6

          UK fee for large 50 page passport will Soon be half the cost of a standard Aussie passport fee

          https://www.gov.uk/passport-fees

          • TAPS001 on 13/12/2023 - 19:05
            +10

            @Wally: "Revenue of $349 million over three years from 2024–25 raised from this measure will be redirected to support priorities in the Foreign Affairs and Trade portfolio," the report revealed.

            So yeah they are increasing the money to buy more champagne and serve the corrupt officials.and sell out australia

          • gromit on 13/12/2023 - 19:08

            @Wally: UK passports are also going up in price. They linked the fee to CPI, so will be going up every year there too.

            • t25 on 13/12/2023 - 19:27
              +10

              @gromit: No one can object to the increase in price but the cost of an Australian passport is beyond criminal. This is the Australian government extorting travellers.

              • Jamie888 on 13/12/2023 - 23:54

                @t25: This is nothing compared how Australia is extorting international students.

                • t25 on 14/12/2023 - 14:27

                  @Jamie888: International students have the option of going elsewhere (NZ, UK, EU, USA, etc). Where can Australian citizens go?

                  • Ryk on 30/12/2023 - 18:06

                    @t25: NZ should offer passports to Australians, at NZ$210 each they'd make a fortune.

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/12/2023 - 09:43
                -3

                @t25:

                No one can object to the increase in price

                Why not? I'm objecting right now…

                the cost of an Australian passport is beyond criminal. This is the Australian government extorting travellers.

                You vote for socialism, this is where it takes you… all those 'free things' need to be paid for by someone…

                • Big L on 15/12/2023 - 18:23

                  @1st-Amendment: Harvey Norman Jobkeeper socialism or free resources for Chevron socialism?

                  • 1st-Amendment on 16/12/2023 - 18:22
                    -1

                    @Big L:

                    Harvey Norman Jobkeeper socialism or free resources for Chevron socialism?

                    Jobkeeper was a socialism gone mad, fueled by pandemic paranoia, along with everything else about the virus that turned out to be mostly bunk.
                    Not sure what you mean by 'Chevron socialism'. It sounds like you might be making the common mistake that the Guardian spits out regularly of thinking that allowing a company to keep their own money is somehow socialism, when it is in fact the opposite. Feel free to let me know If I misunderstood you here…

                    • Big L on 17/12/2023 - 14:09

                      @1st-Amendment: Chevron socialism - I don't know how it's their own money when it's a foreign entity taking Commonwealth resources for nothing.

                      From the 20/21 tax report:

                      "Oil company Chevron, which reported total revenue of $9.2 billion, paid just $30 in tax. Chevron published its own tax transparency report, explaining that the company should have paid nothing because it still had $1.8 billion in losses that financial year.

                      Other companies that reported no taxable income that financial year despite large revenues included Ampol ($20 billion in revenue), BP Regional ($17.4 billion) and Viva Energy Group, which owns Shell-branded petrol stations ($12.8 billion)".

                      This has largely been removed as even your beloved LNP realised this was a pisstake and brought in the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax (PRRT). Still the ATO had to take Chevron to court, just to get them to pay tax on their real earnings.

                      • 1st-Amendment on 17/12/2023 - 14:24

                        @Big L:

                        I don't know how it's their own money when it's a foreign entity taking Commonwealth resources for nothing.

                        What are you talking about? According to their website they invested $80B "representing the largest single investment by a company in Australia’s history. That is not nothing, it is in fact the complete opposite of nothing. It is the most of anybody ever.

                        Chevron published its own tax transparency report, explaining that the company should have paid nothing because it still had $1.8 billion in losses that financial year.

                        You think that companies should pay income tax on losses? Please explain how you think that should work?

                        Other companies that reported no taxable income…

                        You know that income tax is paid on income, not revenue yeah?

                        How is any of this 'socialism', you're not making that clear.

                        even your beloved LNP

                        Where have I ever said that I support the LNP?

                        All I did was point out the socialism makes things cost more and gives worse outcomes. Passports prices and JobKeeper are great examples of this, but I just can't see how whatever Chevron is doing is relevant to that?

                        • Big L on 17/12/2023 - 14:45

                          @1st-Amendment: Chevron are making profit from oil and gas from us and other countries without paying tax - that's how it's relevant. If they don't pay, who do you think pays for it?

                          “It looks contrived, it looks artificial and it is shifting profit out of Australia….Not to oversimplify it, basically, there was aborrowing at two per cent by the United States parent and an on-lending at nine per cent.” Chris Jordan, Commissioner of Taxation, Australian Taxation Office discussing Chevron at the
                          Senate Inquiry into Corporate Tax Avoidance

                          Globally, Chevron reported stashing more than US$35 billion in un-taxed revenues in off-shore accounts. The US government has not approved Chevron’s tax filings since 2008. Other oil producing nations have not approved Chevron’s tax filings for even longer. They have over 600 entities based in Delaware and Bermuda to avoid tax worldwide.

                          If you think tax is socialism, then socialism is in all but 14 countries

                          • 1st-Amendment on 17/12/2023 - 14:51

                            @Big L:

                            Chevron are making profit

                            You just said they made no profit… Did you read what you wrote before you sent it? Here's what YOU posted:

                            "it still had $1.8 billion in losses that financial year."

                            A loss is the opposite of a profit, in case you weren't sure…

                            • Big L on 17/12/2023 - 18:02

                              @1st-Amendment: Chevron reckon they're making a loss, which is contrived due to their tax avoidance strategy by borrowing and lending to themselves.

                              You know what's going on, don't be as disingenuous as they are.

                              • 1st-Amendment on 17/12/2023 - 21:51

                                @Big L:

                                which is contrived due to

                                Your imagination…

                                Why do you think you know more about Tax law than the either Chevron's accountants or the ATO?

                                You know what's going on

                                Yeah it's called a media narrative and you seem to have bought into it.
                                I'm still waiting to see how legally minimising your tax burden, something most of us do, is somehow sOcIaLiSm?

                                • Big L on 17/12/2023 - 22:09

                                  @1st-Amendment: I've already quoted the ATO and it was the basis of their successful court case.

                                  The Federal Government giving away Commonwealth resources or taxpayer funds is corporate socialism; organising wealth for corporate entities from the populace.

                                  • 1st-Amendment on 18/12/2023 - 10:43

                                    @Big L:

                                    I've already quoted the ATO and it was the basis of their successful court case.

                                    What court case? You quoted an opinion from a Senate enquiry. Not sure if you know how these work but they are not legal rulings, they are merely opinions.

                                    The Federal Government giving away Commonwealth resources or taxpayer funds is corporate socialism

                                    You're of sort of right. Taxing people to give someone's money to some other people is socialism, but that is not what is happening here.

                                    When you legally mimimise your tax liability, you are legally limiting the amount of socialism that can occur. Socialists like the lefty arts grads at the ABC, Guardian or SMH get upset about this because their entire shtick is about taking money off others to fund all of their great new ideas. They can never use their own money, or fund it themselves, the great idea always relies on taking someone else's money against their will.

                                    So this is not 'Chevron Socialism', it's 'Chevron Capitalism' beating the socialists at their own game.

                        • Some Random Guy on 20/12/2023 - 17:45

                          @1st-Amendment: "You think that companies should pay income tax on losses? Please explain how you think that should work?"

                          Mate i think you forget how accounting/accountants work, and how a business works. You really think they're still in business recording billions in losses???

                          I would love to see their cashflow statement/statment of cashflows…

                          "their entire shtick is about taking money off others to fund all of their great new ideas. They can never use their own money, or fund it themselves, the great idea always relies on taking someone else's money"

                          So by this definition telsa, Apple, and every other traded company in the world is as socialist as socialism goes? Taking the pesky money from others (investors) and using that to fund their great new ideas (products to sell to get more money)… never using their own money (using what is public money as high percentages are taxable (but their accountjng tricks say otherwise), and other high percentages are investor money (not many companies have much, if any, real cold hard cash of their own).

                          Also would you like to know what money is called in accounting terms? Capital. When an investor provides money/funds its called capital injection. You know what else as capital in its name… capitalism, you moron

                          Capitalism is built on the idea of investors providing capital to people, groups, companies, based on their ideas (innovations) so they can continue to make ideas and products and what not, and thrn these investors expect a return of capital when the idea makes money. That is capitalism. Spend money make money.

                          Socialism is about making utilities, services, necessities to sustain society, and to some extent ideas (depending if they become compulsory for a funcitioning and dveeloping society), social, meaning in the public's domain. Hence the name of such services as social services (public services) . Or the name a social gathering (a shared gathering (of people)).

                          Socialism is a ideology of gathering people (the public) who share services etc etc
                          Capitalism is an ideology of boosting innovation via the motivation of, and concentration of wealth (capital)

                          In a fully capitalist world the bottom 99% percent would be dead
                          In a fully socialist world innovation would be slow

                          Hence you require both (AND MANY MORE!!!) for society

                          Thanks for listening to my Ted talk

                          • 1st-Amendment on 20/12/2023 - 20:31

                            @Some Random Guy:

                            You really think they're still in business recording billions in losses???

                            Who am I to say? That's why we're different, I'm reading silly biased media stories then getting angry about them.
                            But that is how most businesses work, some years they make money, the lose it. You need not be so gullible to media stories of 'bIlLIoNaIrEs ArEn't PaYiNg TaX!'

                            Real world example Qantas:
                            FY2019 Profit
                            FY2020 Loss
                            FY2021 Loss
                            FY2022 Loss
                            FY2023 Profit

                            OMGZ hOw ArE tHeY iN BuSiNesS wHeN tHeY'rE lOsInG mOnEy???

                            Guess what, Qantas didn't pay income tax for 3 years either… that is how income tax works. You only pay it on net income.

                            So by this definition…

                            No because asking is different from taking.

                            you moron

                            Oh I see you created a strawman, argued against it then claimed I was the moron. This was worth the price of admission just to see this pantomime play out. Thanks for the laugh!

          • Spendmore on 14/12/2023 - 00:14

            @Wally: Thats ordering from the uk, its £239 to get a 34 page passport if you apply from Australia

      • Headless on 13/12/2023 - 18:59
        +2

        And most of it is online, AND you can take your own passport photo

    • T-Quizzle on 14/12/2023 - 11:10
      +1

      Just wait for the next data breach and get an over-reaching data thirsty organisation to replace your old one for you!

      Oh hey Optus/Medicare… didn’t see u there… 😆

  • Bichous on 13/12/2023 - 18:23
    +4

    Bought 5 thanks op

    • ozsj on 13/12/2023 - 18:53
      -1

      Came here to say this

      • Emphasise on 13/12/2023 - 18:57
        +2

        It's okay, they beat out the other 5,000 people with the same witty comment

      • King Steuart on 13/12/2023 - 19:27
        +2

        You came here to say bichous bought five?

  • SpaceNinja on 13/12/2023 - 18:25
    +26

    How about Nigeria, need to collect my millions from the prince there.

    • jv on 13/12/2023 - 18:38
      +5

      Prince Emmanuel Nwude Odinigwe ???

      • Lizard Spock on 13/12/2023 - 19:24
        +5

        No, not that prince. Damn it have I been scammed?

    • Whatisthatvelvet on 13/12/2023 - 20:26

      Hey me first!

  • gasman70 on 13/12/2023 - 18:28
    -8

    I'd rather spend a month in Alice Springs than visit anywhere in Africa.

    • [Deactivated] on 13/12/2023 - 18:35
      +6

      you're already roughly half way to Indonesia at that point, just keep going.

    • adrianhughes1998 on 13/12/2023 - 19:01
      +18

      Usual ignorant comment from someone who's never been to Africa.

      • gasman70 on 13/12/2023 - 20:00
        +3

        I have been many, many times. North, East, South and West. Not impressed by any region.

        Have you been?

        • hashtagbargain on 13/12/2023 - 20:14
          +3

          Have you tried the north east, north west, south east and south west? Heard those parts are great.

          • gasman70 on 13/12/2023 - 21:43

            @hashtagbargain: If Angola, Mozambique, Egypt and Morocco cover those intermediate directions, then it's yes.

            Again, not impressed by any of them. I could supply more.

            • itsfree on 13/12/2023 - 22:14
              +2

              @gasman70: In all seriousness, I would genuinely love to hear why.

              • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 06:50
                +8

                @itsfree: It's difficult without being accused as a 'bigot' or 'ignorant', or even worse 'sounding like Trump, but the fact is that aside from some outstanding natural beauty and some (I said some) wonderful hosts, squalor, violence, overbearing and corrupt government representatives, complete lack of basic infrastructure, constant chronic sense of unease (especially in the Northern, Mediterranean regions). Did I mention squalor?

                I've had some good times, met some great people and seen things that you cannot see anywhere else in the world, but that doesn't escape that I have absolutely no desire to return there. I could say the same of many South American countries I have been too. Also some Asian and South Asian ones too, and the Middle East. Oh, just to include the Caucasions and reduce the chance of being called a racist, I have similar feelings about Russia (St Petersburg and Moscow discounted) and many of the surrounding, former Soviet satellite states, including oil-rich Kazakhstan.

                Right, have I included all groups in that statement?

                • itsfree on 14/12/2023 - 09:04
                  +1

                  @gasman70: Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am not surprised, which is probably why I have never really desired to visit any of the listed countries. Outside Australia, I have only been to the US - I'm wanting to tour Europe next year before I try anything else haha.

                  • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 09:19
                    +3

                    @itsfree: It's a shame because North Africa while lacking in creature comforts, was always a great place to visit. Nowadays, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but the most committed traveller.

                    The safety and diversity of Europe keep pulling me back, even though I have visited every country there at least once. St Petersburg was high on the list of desirable European cities, but the maniac in charge has put paid to that.

                • 1st-Amendment on 14/12/2023 - 09:47
                  +1

                  @gasman70:

                  It's difficult without being accused as a 'bigot' or 'ignorant'

                  You're not allowed to not like things these days. Not liking things is rAcIsT…
                  Heaven forbid you call out the crime and corruption rates in some places, apparently that's all Captain Cook's fault…

                  • callum9999 on 14/12/2023 - 20:54

                    @1st-Amendment: Note that in the 14 hours since that was written, not a SINGLE PERSON has called them a bigot.

                    As much as people like yourself love to keep yelling about how you're such an amazing person who just says nice things so it's a mystery why people line up to call them racist bigots, you'll actually find you're being called that for saying racist or bigoted things.

                    Yes, some people are overly sensitive and go "too far" so those labels are occasionally used incorrectly. If you're continually being called those things however, maybe the problem is you and not everyone else…

                    • 1st-Amendment on 15/12/2023 - 10:02
                      +1

                      @callum9999:

                      not a SINGLE PERSON has called them a bigot.

                      Cool story. The world is much bigger than the comments section of this one deal on this one website…

                      As much as people like yourself love to keep yelling

                      No yelling here, what a wild imagination you have…

                      about how you're such an amazing person who just says nice things

                      Note that in the 13 hours since that was written, not a SINGLE PERSON has said this… 🤣

                      it's a mystery why people line up to call them racist bigots

                      A mystery to you, but not to me. They do it because it's profitable for them to do so and there are no consequences for their actions. Much like how a small percentage of women make up false rape claims. If you never paid attention during the Voice campaign, there is a whole industry that revolves around inventing racism where it doesn't exist for personal gain.

                      If you're continually being called those things however…

                      I'm not. But the race-baiters continue to make the same old claims and people like you allow it to continue…

                      • callum9999 on 15/12/2023 - 15:59
                        -1

                        @1st-Amendment: Oh, so you're just a liar? Rephrase your argument and remove the lies about "you can't do X" and "if you do Y you're automatically called a racist" then and I'll happily consider it.

                        For obvious reasons, I have no interest in debating a point that is based on extreme hyperbole - how could I possibly know what you've exaggerated and what you actually believe?

                        I assume you're not going to and this is goodbye, so I'll leave on the note that you're one of the very few people I regularly notice online who I suspect (look up the meaning of that word before you flip out…) is actually a racist. You certainly present yourself that way (though give the aura of someone who thinks they make highly intellectual points that are effectively disguising it). If you, of all people, aren't being called a racist bigot then it can't possibly be some kind of major problem that needs to be addressed.

                        • 1st-Amendment on 12/06/2024 - 17:34

                          @callum9999: I never got notified if this response and only just noticed it now as the deal got reposted.

                          I find this comment really interesting:

                          you're one of the very few people I regularly notice online who I suspect is actually a racist

                          Of course you do because who needs pesky things like evidence or data when you can just 'suspect' things!

                          Thanks for the demonstration. You proved my original point.

        • HangryCakeStore on 14/12/2023 - 13:05

          You didn’t specify where in Africa.. don’t want to be cannibalized :)

      • gasman70 on 13/12/2023 - 21:45

        I guess you've never been.

        • adrianhughes1998 on 13/12/2023 - 22:45

          Why cos I didn't reply immediately? Yeah I've been south Africa, Namibia, Ethiopia. Not universally great but I enjoyed most of it and itching to get back.

          • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 06:52

            @adrianhughes1998: Itching? Maybe you need to see other parts of the world.

            • adrianhughes1998 on 14/12/2023 - 07:25
              +1

              @gasman70: I have, central Asia I love but not as much - Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan, Europe and South East Asia and Pacific islands. Done a fair bit

              • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 07:38
                +2

                @adrianhughes1998: You have been to a few places well off the beaten track. Look up Drew Binsky on YouTube if you've not already.

                • adrianhughes1998 on 14/12/2023 - 07:59
                  +1

                  @gasman70: I have, used to watch his stuff religiously. I want to go more off the beaten track but obvs have to think about safety and the kids etc etc :(

                  • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 09:03
                    +2

                    @adrianhughes1998: That's the problem. Gone are the days when you could travel the whole circumference of the Mediterranean without fear of danger.
                    Russia and surrounding areas are out of the window.

                    I suppose SE Asia and parts of South America are mostly safer than they were. And Europe is as diverse as it gets, and it's as safe as anywhere.

                    • adrianhughes1998 on 14/12/2023 - 11:48

                      @gasman70: This is very true. I'm not a fan of Europe and SE Asia I want to leave til last. There's one country in Africa I've gotten visa for three times now, and everytime before I go there's been some security incident so I couldn't go.

                      Very frustrating :(

                      • gasman70 on 14/12/2023 - 16:07
                        +2

                        @adrianhughes1998: I've many friends who don't think they will like Europe…….until they get there. The diversity is incredible. You can drive for twenty minutes and find different languages, food, culture and architecture. Also, transport is relatively cheap and easy to get around.

                        Cities like Barcelona, Florence, Vienna, Munich, London, Prague, Dubrovnik, London, Stockholm, Verona, Copenhagen, Budapest, Lisbon, Amsterdam, Rome, the Amalfi Coast, Tallinn, Mykonos, Athens, Valetta, Paris, Salzburg, Bratislava, Seville, Strasbourg, Madrid, Ghent, Reykjavik, Venice, Warsaw, Athens, Edinburgh, Venice, Cyprus, Istanbul, Antwerp, Bruge, etc., etc. make me want to get on a plane and get back there. Some sights are jaw-dropping, and the food is excellent as it is different.

                        I've been to almost every country on every continent, and there are few places I have enjoyed as much as Europe. I have some European ancestry, but that plays a small part in why I love it there as much as I do. Perhaps Japan, Colombia and Chile are the only places that compete in my list of preferred destinations.

                        Italy is my #1, though.

                        • adrianhughes1998 on 14/12/2023 - 16:38
                          +1

                          @gasman70: Reykjavik and Helsinki I quite enjoyed I'll be honest, til central Asia took over for me haha. Rome I didn't, hated it, hated Fiji too but loved Solomon islands cos it was more rough edges. I'll be honest I like more off the beaten track places.

                          There are plenty of options but one day I'm sure I'll get around to knocking more of Europe off with a self-drive between the countries.

  • jv on 13/12/2023 - 18:31

    Combine with this post for the win !!!

    • prisonmike on 13/12/2023 - 18:33
      +1

      This will offset the price hike

      • jv on 13/12/2023 - 18:36

        with a small profit !!!

    • Wally on 13/12/2023 - 18:37
      -5

      Airbus Albo needs plenty of deductions to help reduce his high salary

      • ItsMeAgro on 13/12/2023 - 19:26
        +6

        Airbus Albo

        In case there's anyone else here who thinks Murdoch media is a legitimate news source:

        A simple count shows Albo hasn't taken more trips than any other recent prime minister.

        (Comparing the first years of their terms, Albo had fewer trips than Scomo, until COVID, and almost exactly the same as Abbott. There's a handy graph here, with analysis and sources: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-17/fact-check-airbus-alb…)

        • jv on 13/12/2023 - 20:29
          +2

          Albo the Albatross ?

    • mikeleemy on 13/12/2023 - 21:50

      Time to migrate

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