Looking to Buy a CPAP Machine and Wanting Recommendation

LStationNation93 on 05/12/2023 - 20:27

Just got my sleep study results back and doctor suggests I need to go on CPAP. My BMI is 35 and I don't think I can actually loose any more weight.

Have been looking around for CPAP Machine and ResMed Seems to be the top dog but just wanting recommendations. This ebay seller seems to be selling the 11 for pretty cheap ($1600) compared to other ($2000) so thinking about getting it.

Is the 11 worth the price over the 10 or should I just get the 10?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256329299942?hash=item3bae6ab7e6…

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    • Minimum chips on 06/12/2023 - 23:40

      Second this. It's the closest thing to zero-effort weight loss I've ever seen.

      The problem is everyone wants it. It's great for diabetics so there's demand there already, but it also has huge awareness from social media so people will try to get it without a specialist script just to lose a few kilos for the beach. Chemists are always OOS, and will allocate the shipments as it comes in based on their own system - some try to judge who needs it, others do first come first serve.

    • beach bum on 07/12/2023 - 00:21
      +1

      And what is the cost of ozempic per month if it’s available?
      $500-1000 per month?
      Just reduce your portion size overtime to slowly shrink your stomach , eat breakfast with fibre and snack on fruit and veg , bananas apples baby carrots celery are all easy quick filling snacks that taste good & handfuls of nuts for protein fix .
      Aldi is good place to buy nuts cheap, and rice snax.

      Now you have to exercise everyday , start small but start walking every second day at least . Don’t be lazy , there’s no fat old people .

      Of course you have to get on the cpap or the apap.
      And buy from the Right sleep study people that will coach you through getting used to the thing and getting effective therapy from it .
      Personally I went with a lowenstein machine and Philips nasal mask .
      F&P have a new solo mask , I might try that too .
      The top machines are quiet enough but the masks can be noisy.
      I’ve started taking melatonin to also help sleep .ask yr doc / pharmacist , but exercise to make you tired and no screens in bed . Bed is for sleep , maybe a book .
      Probably would have gone with resmed if I hadn’t realised the Aussie owner is a massive tax evasion creep and also made in china parts .
      Check out YouTube for all the info you will ever need on options .

      Just my 28c .

      • Sensiekatie on 07/12/2023 - 12:44
        +1

        Way off on cost of Ozempic of you can get it. Diabetics get it on PBS. Full price for non-diabetics is about $140. It did nothing for me, so it doesn't work for everyone. My aunty who is a diabetic and has a horrible diet was able to get down to the weight so she could have a hip replacement. It really affected the quantity of food she ate. The side effects didn't bother her. I did not enjoy them and it had no effect on my appetite. I have already refined my diet to be healthy and correct portioning.

        • beach bum on 07/12/2023 - 16:41

          Ok , was going by gp’s advice on cost , looks like I needs to shop around for different gp .

    • Mister Popo on 08/12/2023 - 21:06

      Unfortunately, he would need to fail first-line therapies including oral hypoglycaemics first to qualify for PBS-subsidisation. I have worked with a lot of bariatric patients who surpisingly have no sniff of diabetes, so this may not be easy for OP to get.

  • xdigger on 06/12/2023 - 22:22

    Join the reserve!

  • sir-screwball on 06/12/2023 - 22:28
    +5

    Call ResMed and get them to send you a demo Airsense 10 Auto. Then try it for a few weeks. When you decide to buy it because it's awesome, they'll offer you a discount to about $1600. Tell them outright that websites offer it cheaper and they will search their network of resellers and sell you one with accessories for the lowest price they can find.

    Speak to Jarryd in the call centre if you want a great experience.

  • sidozbargain on 07/12/2023 - 00:01

    I got my airsense 10 from resmed for $1310 with mask etc

  • snapper17 on 07/12/2023 - 00:23

    https://www.cpapaustralia.com.au/collections/cpap-machines-t…

    I would get one of these that way you can travel with it if you need to

    • 68Huey on 07/12/2023 - 01:11

      I own the mini as well as the 10, the mini doesn’t do very good in air conditioned rooms like hotels, had the issue of dry sore throats constantly from cold dry air. Using the humidx cartridges didnt make any difference, I recent used the mini on a 2 week trip to Bali.

      Stick with the 10 if you’re planning to travel and stay in any air conditioned rooms like hotels as the humidifier with water will keep the sore throat issue from occurring.

  • kinghuzi on 07/12/2023 - 00:28

    Buy a used airsense 10, these machines are very well built and can run forever.

    I would but off marketplace so you can test it

    Using the new f&P solo mask, damn it's a game changer

    • pnt on 08/12/2023 - 13:04

      Is F&P Solo Mask a game changer compared to Resmed Airfit P10?

  • squaredonut on 07/12/2023 - 00:32
    +1

    Have you trialed a CPAP machine? There are pharmacies that let you trial it, you pay a fee, but in my case, he fee went towards the machine if i wanted to buy it in the end.

    Now the thing is, it's not for everyone, i first tried the CPAP mask that covers mouth and nose, wow claustrophobic reaction for me. Then he moved me to just the nose, it's ok, but honestly I move so much that it's ineffective, mask ends up on my forehead.

    I really need to commit to it, but I just want to say it's very difficult.

  • beach bum on 07/12/2023 - 00:42

    By the way there has been a few recalls recently and companies disappearing into the night ,
    Don’t buy any Phillips machines from eBay as they’re all contaminated as well as some of the Chinese knockoffs .
    Do research YouTube Aussie cpap .

  • jakesmith on 07/12/2023 - 01:02
    +2

    Everyone always recommends ResMed but they are actually not the best machines in terms of the pressures they deliver - this video explains it well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6_NHkXgSRU

    Personally I got a Löwenstein and it is incredible. Very comfortable auto algorithm and also extremely quiet and easy to use.

  • TailsK on 07/12/2023 - 08:03
    +1

    You may want to checkout the Löwenstein Prisma 20A. It's not quite as compact, but is apparently very good. Something compact can be important if you're travelling. For example, you want to pack your CPAP in your carry-on/overnight bag for an overnight trip.

    Something to consider is the power draw. Some machines can be powered using a USB battery pack, which can be super useful if you go camping and take your CPAP.

    • AdosHouse on 07/12/2023 - 11:40
      +2

      It would want to be better for a thousand dollars more.

  • StationNation93 on 07/12/2023 - 08:16
    +6

    Thanks everyone for all the helpful info. I bought an AirSense 10 Auto yesterday with a Resmed N20 Mask. Woke up a few times throughout the night but went right back to sleep. The experience wasn't so bad that I don't want to use CPAP machine again but I don't feel much difference. I have also started Keto today and already thinking about my next meal :') . I'll try make an update if all goes well.

    • RPGPlayer on 07/12/2023 - 10:10

      You won't notice the mask and CPAP machine after about a month.

      It will probably feel weird not using it later on. Certainly, you should be able to see benefits in yourself compared to not using it.

      All the best.

      • AdosHouse on 07/12/2023 - 11:39
        +1

        Agree with this. Only took about 1-2 weeks to not even notice it was there. A few months in I was raising the starting pressure as I felt it was a restriction, LOL.

    • erasimos on 07/12/2023 - 10:41

      Good luck. Been on cpap for over five years but the difference over the first week was dramatic. Getting the right mask for you is key and then maintenance. I try to pick up cheap parts for my nuance mask as the bands stretch but its the only mask I feel comfortable with. I have recently switched to using demineralized water after just using tap water. A 5 litre bottle from bunnings seems to last a month. Then there is the intake filter which I didn't realize was there for the first few years.
      I did buy an imported res 10 but I would probably go local now.

    • Breno785au on 07/12/2023 - 10:58

      Totally up to you man, but I'm of the opinion of making lifestyle changes or eating habits rather than temporary fad diets. Keto is not a permanent solution.

  • Lawagetas on 07/12/2023 - 09:15
    +1

    I have the Airsense 10 and Airsense 11.

    I found the Test Drive feature in the Airsense 11 to work really well. Touchscreen and bluetooths are nice to haves as well.
    Given that they'll probably last 5-ish years I think you may as well go the 11 but each to their own.

    I would currently avoid other brands. Even Philips, who I would argue are their closest competitor, has been hit with two major issues in the last couple years. The first is that their masks use a foam that break down and can be inhaled. The other is that their machines might catch fire. I think they're both fixed or getting fixed but it doesn't leave me too confident.

    • beach bum on 07/12/2023 - 09:50
      +2

      No , it’s the Phillips machines that had the toxic foam disintegrating and being blown through into people’s airways.
      The masks themselves are fine from what I understand .
      Resmed also had a voluntary recall on early machines in the states that were producing a small low heat flame out the back of the machine according to their CEO .

  • richmond12 on 07/12/2023 - 10:54

    Not sure why hasnt been mentioned yet, just buy from resmed directly. They price match. You can even do a free sleep study with them too.

  • Breno785au on 07/12/2023 - 10:56

    The differences between 10 and 11 are negligible.
    Regarding the weight loss, you'll find that you will shed a bit of weight after getting on the CPAP.

    • Korban Dallas on 07/12/2023 - 21:44

      Isn't it like 7 years old the 10?

  • field1985 on 07/12/2023 - 11:19

    Walking. Go walking. Costs nothing and will have immeasurable benefits.
    Start with what you can manage, then go a bit further each day. Use music/podcasts to distract your thoughts.
    Your energy levels will start to improve after a couple of weeks.

  • h0mbre on 07/12/2023 - 11:43

    Lots of good advice in here for OP.

    I feel like an outlier with my Philips Dreamstation but haven’t felt the need to upgrade or change.

    Like others have said, I’d say the right mask is more important than the machine. I tried many different masks before setting on the Dreamwear under the nose.

    I’m due for another sleep study because I have slowly been adjusting the pressure down and hopefully can transition off CPAP one day.

  • jabbathepom on 07/12/2023 - 11:55
    +2

    As someone who has battled with this for many years, I'd like to point out the link between sleep apnea and the strain it puts on your cardiovascular system, stress levels and metabolism. I would recommend you try get compliant with CPAP first and then introducing dieting and exercise.

    My journey took me from CPAP to deviated septum surgery, I tried mandibular advancement devices, tongue stabilisers and backpacks.

    I had my sleep apnea confirmed as positional by doing 2 sleeps studies back to back (heh) one sleeping on my back one sleeping on my side using the back pack.

    I currently use an aveotsd and a woodyknows side sleeping backpack with a high firm side sleeping pillow (wide shoulders) I monitor O2 drops with an Wellue O2 ring. I average only one significant O2 drop per night which is pretty damn good.

    My username no longer checks out.

  • ripesashimi on 07/12/2023 - 12:07

    Suggesting a BMI 35 to avoid carb is insane. OP already tried several weight loss methods and still failed. Cutting carb will just condemn them to an unsustainable life style of endless hunger and overeating opportunities.

    Look at the average BMI of the countries where rice is in every meal. Everybody eats rice yet obesity rate is super low because clean carb like rice is super satiating and provides adequately energy for the person to adequately function. Sure you can make do with keto or majority protein diet if you know what you are doing but neither are as fool-proof as just the standard boring but super balanced meal with some rice, some meat, some vegetable.

    • infinite on 07/12/2023 - 15:33
      -4

      If OP's BMI is 35, the only reason they failed is because they made the conscious decision not to lose weight.

      There is no helping someone who refuses to make any life choices, other than bad one's.

  • wallaforpm on 07/12/2023 - 12:34
    +3

    Hi,
    I'm a trainer and fat loss coach and see so many people who try keto or carnivore diets which are hugely restrictive compared to their usual diets so they inevitably fail. I'm a huge advocate for flexible dieting and tracking calories in an app for some amount of time, doesn't need to be forever.
    Fat loss occurs when you consume less calories than your body requires to maintain it's weight, this is called a calorie deficit.
    Start by using an online calculator to see how many calories you require to achieve a calorie deficit. Then download Myfitnesspal and weigh and log you food, this part is time consuming initially and there's a learning curve but it gets easier after a couple of weeks.
    It's the most accurate approach to achieve fat loss, and means you can include foods that you love. I've got clients who have lost 50kg who still smash chocolate bars, hot chips, whatever they want as long as it's part of a balanced diet.

    If this all too seems confusing start by simply prioritising lean protein sources at each meal, upping fruit and vegetable intake, reducing your intake of ultra processed foods and drinks.
    I really do encourage tracking your food even for a short while as a tool to learn about the energy density of food. For example people are shocked to learn a teaspoon of sugar in their coffee is only 15 cals, so if it brings you joy you really'd dont need to cut it out. Whereas cutting out a tablespoon of oil used to cook some meat would save you 120, and is probably an easy way to cut out some calories. Or a lifesaver icypole has 40 cals vs 100 cals in a tablespoon of peanut butter.

    You should easily be able to find fat loss instagram or social media pages which offer lots of free information. Look for Australian based pages so the products are relevant. I wont share my own as theres countless amazing ones out there, and you'll find pages you enjoy and suit your personality.

    And for the record, keto and carnivore work purely by creating a calorie deficit because people naturally eat less when huge food groups are cut out. So they do work, however many people find them unenjoyable and unsustainable.

    • SpainKing on 08/12/2023 - 15:53

      Very nice of you to create an account just to give OP some quality advice

  • Morphio25 on 07/12/2023 - 12:47

    My wife has one of these. She used it about three times before she found out she was pregnant and hasn't used it since. Paid $2K for the damn thing as well :(

  • 900dollaridoos on 07/12/2023 - 13:39

    If you genuinely want to try and take proactive action please consider visiting and ENT and checking your nose.
    Fixing polyps and/or deviated septum is basically life changing to the point it could well be the domino that fixes everything. EG, ability to nasal breath massively increases energy, that motivation helps you attack fitness and diet goals. Those life style changes coupled with a functioning nose (no more mouth breahting at night) will give you the best sleep of your life.
    I'm utterly kicking myself I waited so long to get my nose fixed.

    Also for reference, I was told I had both severe asthma and probably needed a cpap by doctors. I now test has upper percentage on lung function and have no signs of asthma.

    • Korban Dallas on 07/12/2023 - 21:41

      This is not true. Surgery has the least best outcomes in terms of %. CPAP Trump's everything.

      • 900dollaridoos on 07/12/2023 - 21:45

        Cpap is for when your throat fat causes resriction on the airway.

        Cpap will not help you get air past severe polyps.

        You are probably right about % though since there are more obese people than with polyps.

  • kokita on 07/12/2023 - 15:19

    I use ResMed AirSense 10 and highly recommended this compare to Phillips.

  • feelingroovy on 07/12/2023 - 15:27

    if you're looking for other options (and you're in Melbourne) check out Sleepwise clinic. You may be able to have a MAS made which is significantly more comfortable than CPAP, many people have great results with it.

  • caloykohan on 07/12/2023 - 15:58

    I rented the airsense10 and bought the 11. Advantage is smaller unit, quieter, updated menus and nice screen. Function wise they are the same i believe.

    Best thing i like about the 11 is its quiet, you or your partner will barely hear anything also there’s auto on function when you put the mask on.

  • Limitless on 07/12/2023 - 16:00

    if you have health insurance see if they will cover some of the cost. In this instance you would need to buy from a registered supplier so unlikely able to purchase from ebay

  • rezdo on 07/12/2023 - 16:07

    You many not need a CPAP, depends how bad your score was. My apnoea was moderate so about 7-12 events per hour with loads of micro breathing stoppages. I got an O2vent mouthguard and are now compliant. I tried the CPAP and it was difficult to wear… actually I felt like I was drowning. This mouthguard is unlike the cheaper units on the market in that It's 3d modelled to your mouth to fit perfectly and is way less obtrusive then a CPAP.

    Could be worth a look mate, and mine was 2/3rd's covered by my health fund. good luck. The Oz company has now been bought out by a USA based company.

    https://openairway.au/

  • George2021 on 07/12/2023 - 17:10
    +2

    Lose the weight first. You are clinically obese.

    Under 18.5 - you are very underweight and possibly malnourished.
    18.5 to 24.9 - you have a healthy weight range for young and middle-aged adults.
    25.0 to 29.9 - you are overweight
    Over 30 - you are obese

    Then get retested. Don’t give up on losing the weight.

    • infinite on 07/12/2023 - 21:35
      -2

      They aren't just obese, they are morbidly obese. A BMI of 35 or higher, regardless of your age, put's you in immediate risk for heart attack, DVT, stroke and diabetes. It also makes you high risk for every common type of cancer.

      OP doesn't care though.

  • UFO on 07/12/2023 - 19:03
    +1

    Your energy levels and motivation will improve once you start using the CPAP.

    I was constantly feeling tired and run down, but after adjusting on the CPAP I actually had more energy to get out and walk and be more active.

    it might take a while to find the right device and mask combination, so I strongly suggest renting first. The sleep study place that did the testing, and the specialist 'sleep doctor' will have contacts to get you in touch with places that will rent you machines and even swap them over to different ones and different masks until you're comfortable (at a cost, but its worth it!).

    I myself use a Philips Dreamstation (I tried ResMed but they weren't for me), with a slimline nasal cushion that has the hose inlet come in at the top of you head like a tellybubby. Because I'm a side sleeper I can rotate left and right and never get tangled as hose stays above the pillow line.

    If you have had a proper sleep study done and it shows you have sleep issues, a CPAP will change your life. But if its not comfortable you'll never stick with it and nothing will change.

    Weight loss can come later, but you've forgotten what it feels like to have a decent nights sleep. Doing something about your weight is of course the furthest thing from your mind right now, but it will change.

  • lddv04 on 07/12/2023 - 19:56

    Mate, you need to get fitted, for a mask in particular. Find a reputable CPAP supplier who will loan you machines and masks until you find your sweet spot. They will also set your prescription to the machine.

    I have a Phillips Dreamstation Go, which is a small travel machine but also good for everyday.

    Good Luck!

  • Korban Dallas on 07/12/2023 - 21:38
    +1

    He wanted advice on a CPAP machine and y'all trying to make him lose weight.

    CPAP machine is life changing. Not tired during the daytime anymore. Got the resmed 10 on trial for 2 weeks. 4 days in it's been good but find it hard wearing more than 5 hours.

  • Ashedat90 on 07/12/2023 - 21:42

    If you can, swim laps for an hour everyday. Sleep Apnoea is from lazy lungs and bad breathing habits, posture etc. Swim an hour, eveyday.

    "Deep breath, 4 strokes while breathing out slowly, lift your head breathe another deep breath. Repeat"

    Do the sleep study test again in a year. I assure yiu this is far better than any CPAP machine

  • oldyellah on 07/12/2023 - 21:49

    anyone wanna buy a 2nd hand Phillips Dream machine? lol

  • bgbrendan on 07/12/2023 - 23:27

    Hey op lot of shitty diet advice in this thread, I went from 93 to 73 kilos this year. All I did was monitor my calories then switch out foods that were too calorie dense for healthier options that I enjoyed eating. I aimed for 1500 calories a day but if you are heavier than I am you will need to set a higher number as losing too much weight too quick will have the opposite effect. Always track everything you eat (MyFitnessPal is recommended) and aim to be under your number. Protein>fat>carbs is the scientifically recommended macro order nowdays to stop you feeling hungry. I didn't really exercise, but a bit a day helps take up blood sugar and will make you feel fuller and happier.

  • kaleidoscope on 08/12/2023 - 00:17

    My BMI is 35 and I don't think I can actually loose any more weight.

    What have you tried so far? Don't snack, go on high protein, no or low carb diet with intermittent fasting. Throw in a bit of exercise for the kicks (dont need to be religous about it). The trick is to just limit your self to 2 meals a day (lunch / dinner worked for me) with IM and don't calorie count. Just east as much as you can until you're full (no or low carbs with plenty of fat, proteins).

    I'm no medical professional to offer advice, but just sharing what I had tried and what worked for me. I referred some useful info from this fellow

    good luck!

  • melancholykeith on 08/12/2023 - 07:19
    -2

    I have been on CPAP for 10 years now, the best advice I can give.
    1. Uncle nico from CPAP reviews give a decent review of the Airsense 11 and compares it to the 10 (which I currently own) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bWBILnuJlw
    2. Don't buy the machine from the sleep study place as it will be $2500 to $3500 by the finish of it. And if you have health insurance it will only cover $500 at maximum of the cost.
    3. Stay away from Philips dreramstations, the 1st version was recalled due to sound abatement foam breaking down and entering the airflow causing increased risk of cancer and the 2nd version are just in the process of being recalled due to overheating/fire risk.
    4. Even though a lot of Resmed equipment is made in Australia, a lot of the times they're actually cheaper to buy from US websites. Do shop around as there are specials to be found if you look for them on machines, masks and consumables (cushions, chin straps, filters etc)
    5. Don't be afraid to buy a open box or reconditioned machine as they can be much cheaper than new and usually with very few hours on them
    6. When you first get the machine, try it on and go for a nap for maybe 20-30 minutes when it's not your usual bedtime (as it takes the pressure of you to get used to it at the same time as you're trying to sleep)
    Most importantly give yourself multiple chances to get used to it as it is a large adjustment for many people.

    • UFO on 08/12/2023 - 22:01

      3- Stay away from Philips Dreamstation?

      Yeah, you lost me on that one champ. They had their recall and sorted it all out. Do you even know what the issue was?

      There was a "risk" of the foam breaking down IF idiots cleaned the inside of their devices with unapproved harsh cleaning products like ozone gas.
      Virtually no risk to anyone else actually following cleaning instructions properly and actually looking after their device as per directions.
      Even then, they replaced all devices anyway… just to be 100% sure. My device was 5 years old (well out of warranty) and they gave me a new one.

      That's pretty damn good customer service in my book! Pump the brakes a bit on the ResMed fandom mate.

  • Sunshines bright on 08/12/2023 - 07:41

    I have used cpap for 10 years, thought it was weight related, not so much tired during day but a heavy snorer. Lost 25 k, stopped cpap but still snoring so it is not necessary weight related. And I did two sleep studies and both came back recommending cpap therapy.

    • allan-inglis on 08/12/2023 - 07:58

      I bought my masks from them - not responsive on the livechat but a person replied not a machine and they ship out quick

  • Dreamcast on 08/12/2023 - 11:32

    My father uses a ResMed machine. If you can breathe from your nose, I would recommend the nasal mask over the full face mask, as per my father's feedback. Nasal mask is much more comfortable.

  • Stingy Student on 08/12/2023 - 14:33

    From my limited experience, the machines are proabably similar if they have a humidifer etc. Most tedious thing to get right for me was the mask - so make sure that wherever you buy allows you to try multiple masks overnight until you find one that works for you. If you have a full face mask, I found the ResMed pillow with mask cutouts helped a lot.

  • cbastien on 08/12/2023 - 14:41

    Hello,
    You were talking about nose issue. If it is the only blocking point, some nose vents will be enough
    https://www.amazon.com.au/Snoring-Vents-Stopper-Solution-Sno…
    To have a good sleep, just test you feel confortable just using your nose as airways in your sleeping position. If you feel like you are not getting enough air you won’t have a good sleep.
    (I’m not a doctor, just personal exp)

  • chazfg on 08/12/2023 - 16:27

    Resmed AirSense 10 or 11 are great unit have good resale value. it does not really matter which one.
    I suggest to go to sleep study place to test which mask that suits you, but go online to by the CPAP machine itself.
    Also with the recommendation from your GP or sleep study place, you can claim a rebate from Medicare or health funds on the CPAP machine.

  • aazoth7 on 08/12/2023 - 16:36

    Hi,

    I got my CPAP machine from ResMed, however I was also given a script by my sleep study doctor with specific settings for my machine, where the staff at ResMed set up before giving me it.

    For weight / apnea I found the best resolution (for myself) was intermittent fasting / avoid eating evening / night. My BMI was 34.7 and now 29.5 after about 16 weeks of intermittent fasting and medium / light training.

    In my opinion, I'd suggest:
    - Organise a CPAP machine with script from your sleep study doctor
    - Avoid eating evening / night (probably best before 6pm)
    - Eventually look into intermittent fasting or whatever best suits your lifestyle.

    Most important thing is consistency, a lifestyle you can stick to works best. Best of luck!

  • Hangryuman on 08/12/2023 - 17:21

    dunno as you didn't post your 'sleep study results' or how that was tested so I can't comment on the validity of your sleep study, but I'll just toss in something that improved my sleep

    I'm guessing the idea of CPAP is to overcome some sleep position where a lazy epiglottis or something inhibits the free flow of air through your windpipe

    I use a cheap Colesworths plastic strip/bandaid (2 cents a night?) horizontally over to keep my lips closed while I sleep - mainly to prevent my childhood habit from my blocked nose forcing me to breathe through my mouth with resultant drooling > wet yellow ooky pillow

    If any similarity, I wonder if such 'mouth taping' - a recent fad - might somehow encourage a different pathway to improve your sleep

    not a diagnosis - just a long shot - something that works for me - have a nice day now !

  • payless69 on 09/12/2023 - 06:27

    Your car runs on hydrocarbons.
    Dietists recommend lowering the intake of carbo hydrates.
    Think of it: the 2 above are literally the same thing.

    • Daabido on 09/12/2023 - 19:30

      Hopefully that was sarcasm, otherwise it was the… Don't want to be sin binned.

      • payless69 on 09/12/2023 - 22:20

        Just chemistry. So I put a few fuel stickers onto my fridge to remind me!

  • koalabargains on 09/12/2023 - 16:53
    +1

    Buy it from overseas. You can get a new cpap machine, resmed, for less than half of what it goes for here despite being MANE IN SYDNEY.

    I believe a good site was 1800cpap.com I was shocked to see the price difference.

    Only an idiot would buy a cpap machine in Australia. Dont buy anything that small and expensive here because there will always be a massive markup.

    • Daabido on 09/12/2023 - 19:36

      If you have private extras, I would check out what they cover, if anything, before you jump overseas. May as well use it if you have it; only an idiot would pass up that chance for local warranty. You are right though; it's just another thing we get royally screwed over.

      • koalabargains on 10/12/2023 - 00:05

        Have you ever tried to use a local warranty?

        Or go to the tribunal to enforce your consumer rights?

        It’s a big bag of shit and a huge waste of time. If you can buy it overseas for half the price, just do that. If it breaks, buy another one. A lot less trouble.

        Don’t fall for the local warranty crap.

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