This is the absolute cheapest price for the Samsung G8 QD-OLED monitor thus far. Perfect time to pick up a new OLED monitor if you have been looking around for one recently. Cheers
Surcharges: 1.2% Card & PayPal, 2% AmEx.
This is the absolute cheapest price for the Samsung G8 QD-OLED monitor thus far. Perfect time to pick up a new OLED monitor if you have been looking around for one recently. Cheers
Surcharges: 1.2% Card & PayPal, 2% AmEx.
This is a great price and is a no brainer at this price compared to other models with the same panel. I will resist tho as I should stick with what I want, the 32inch 4k oled models releasing next year instead of buying things on sale and then forcing people around the house to use the ones I don't want.
I do the same. In saying that, friends and family have gotten some really good free monitors from me. 🤣
Wouldn’t be the worst thing to be forced to use!
Not sure about no brainer when Alienware one is better and only slightly more expensive
Actually Dell is cheaper at $1356.45.
Just got this delivered, was $1,419.95 with the "3 year Pro Support warranty" basically the burn in warranty. get 7% - 10% off with this, can use any student email, it doesnt verify the email just generates a code instantly.: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/810536
https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/alienware-34-curved-qd-oled-…
What are these monitors you're waiting for?
Not brand specific but they all use Samsung gen 2 qd oleds coming out next year. Just hoping it comes to Aus at the same time
There's already several 2nd gen panel models being sold, just in the 49" 32:9 space currently.
The Dell version is much brighter in SDR content and has proper video inputs.
Be nice to see Dell respond with a further price drop… I’m holding!
You mean the Alienware one that uses the same panel? As far as I know that also explicitly covers burn in in its warranty too, right?
The Samsung OLED’s warranty does not cover burn in at all.
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/warranty/
If you go to 'TV and AV' and click on the 'LCD / LED / OLED / Plasma Television Warranty' it takes you to this.
Under VI. Warranty Exclusion and D. This Warranty does not cover damage caused by: burned-in images resulting from viewing an image on the display screen for an extended period of time.
This was enough to deter me from buying the G8 and I instead bought the Alienware AW3423DWF which comes with 3 years of burn in protection. With the G8 you can of course try to enforce your rights under the Australian Consumer Law but I expect Samsung won’t cave in easily. They’ve put that exclusion clause in the warranty to make this difficult on purpose
100%
Using OLED, susceptible to burn in, and excluding burn in from warranty probably tells us what we need to know
Good pick up!
The Samsung warranty covers unexpected burn-in performance… all OLED warranties do… these clauses exist to prevent people trying make absurd warranty claims.
Any burn-in warranty that eschews this will last nowhere near as long as the main warranty, as Dell/Alienware and LG have proven, but they go along with it because it markets well in the monitor space.
Samsung and LG still attempt to assess usage before inspecting a TV unit in order to manage consumer expectations, but unless you've been a complete goon with usage or settings they will replace a TV with burn in even outside of warranty if it's clear it wasn't suffering from overuse in the normal lifespan (ACL does help define this) or constant static patterns on screen.
The same will be true of monitors.
@jasswolf: I think that's an overly optimistic way of looking at it. Given Samsung's track record with QA and customer service issues I have doubts that they will use proper due diligence to assess and determine whether a panel has been abused and to make a call on what is considered normal pixel wear (in regard to burn in). Even if they can it feels too arbitrary and the whole thing doesn't sit right with me especially with the exclusion clause in the warranty.
@AlexMX: I think you've come up with the very common and perhaps obtuse way of looking at it, where you've never bothered to examine or witness anyone dealing with burn in issues.
They help customers out with this, every time they ask.
Given Samsung's track record with QA
Samsung Electronics release a lot of products on an annual basis, and they have a lot of teams with a lot of overlap working on a lot of stuff. I think some of these OLED monitors use TizenOS for smart features, so imagine all the coordination required to push firmware updates.
Pushing OLED to 240Hz and VA to proper response times for 240Hz is the bleeding edge of monitor technology today, especially if you're doing it without the latest backpanel array tech to reduce thermals and voltages. What you call QA, I'd more likely describe as the result of customers using their equipment in environments that push things outside normal operating spec.
They definitely push things a bit with keeping everything low cost, but for me personally the only issues I've ever had with Samsung equipment that I can't attribute to my own errant usage, is the odd software bug on a first-gen TV design, and the well known low framerate flickering issues that Samsung panels and drivers used to offer.
I think the biggest thing working against them is actually their own customer support: unless you're needing to send a product back they are a crapshoot in terms of getting assistance, and presumably that stymies a lot of early feedback on their products.
they will use proper due diligence to assess and determine whether a panel has been abused and to make a call on what is considered normal pixel wear
They will have guidelines that they can chat to a customer about, then if it's clear the customer isn't thrashing the TV/monitor, they'll write up an RMA… from there it will go to a technician who will inspect the service logs and see exactly how the user has been operating the device. The same compensation systems that go into action when you're not using the panel also track its usage.
At that point it's pretty easy for them to determine if it's not performing to specification, and also easy for an ombudsman or lawyer to contest if they're arguing you shouldn't expect 7-10 years out of reasonable use.
It's ok that you don't like the unknown, but in the information age, answers like this aren't hard to find.
@jasswolf: Their support is downright atrocious. I’ve done my due diligence speaking to Samsung directly and they’ve made it clear any image retention / burn in is not covered under their express warranty (regardless of whether it has been deliberately abused or resulted from genuine use).
If any issue occurs it needs to be sent to them and inspected by a technician like you’ve already mentioned but the time frame for this isn’t pleasant from what I’m hearing. I think it’s clear that in combination with the exclusion clause Samsung are attempting to limit any and all burn in claims under their express warranty. It’s unlikely they’ll actually be able to prevent you from replacing it under the ACL but you’ll have to go through hoops to enforce it.
Scorptec’s product page for the G8 claims burn in is covered under warranty in the QA but I’ve called them and they are following it up since they told me they’re actually not sure if that’s reliable and accurate.
I’ve got an unopened DWF at home that’s within the return period and I’m considering sending it back and getting the G8 through a local retailer since I refuse to deal with Samsung directly (it would take 2+ weeks to deliver to me if I ordered right now etc.
Going through a retailer is $1399 but that’s the same price as what I’ve paid for the DWF. I do think the G8 OLED is objectively the better monitor with more features and 10bit colour at 175hz natively, better calibration through the OS, better processing hardware etc but I’m not sure if it’s worth the hassle
@AlexMX: I've seen what Samsung are saying at a high level about this and it's clear that when burn-in exceeds what is reasonable to expect after how ever many hours of use and it's not someone spraying light/white mode for 12-16 hours a day, they will process it as a warranty claim.
If you're geting your answers from level 1 support at Samsung, just ignore them. Their live chat is a mess.
Here's a very recent video from RTings, and what it's demonstrating is how powerful the 2nd gen QD-OLED tech is at mitigating burn in when combined with an AI-enhanced process (such as the S95C TV). Their tech no has any long-term refresh cycles, it just does its shorter compensation work for temporary image retention and balances out long term burn-in over time.
It's brilliant, and you should check into whether the new G9 OLED offers this.
@jasswolf: I’m really only interested in 3440x1440p otherwise the G9 would be something I’d consider too.
I’m just torn on whether I return my DWF and get the G8. If I do get the G8 it would be through a retailer since it’s faster to pick up and less of a hassle (I don’t mind paying $1399 since that’s what I paid for the DWF). What would you do?
My only concern with the G8 is the wake from sleep bug but the better HDR performance, EOTF tracking and hardware processing is what matters. It’s also fanless unlike the DWF.
@AlexMX: I mean this reads like you should just wait for the 2nd gen models.
@jasswolf: Asus and MSI are set to release 240hz QD-OLED 1440p ultrawides in Q2 2024 but I really need to buy for now so waiting another 6 months or so which is out of the cards for me
I spent some time with Samsung on chat and this OLED TV warranty is not the right one for monitors. Though they couldnt pinpoint the relevant one - just said monitors have 3 yrs….
@gazer: They're actually covering all bases now on their website, if the look under PC & Office (where standard monitor warranty cards are located) they have included a general warranty clause at the bottom reading the same exclusion clause:
VI. Warranty Exclusions
F. This Warranty does not cover
•burned-in images resulting from viewing an image on the display screen for an extended period of time;
The Dell version is much brighter in SDR content
This is categorically false, and in fact at launch of the G8 the reverse was true, but they'd made a mistake in enabling a setting intended for HDR and BFI usage to be usable for SDR.
They have the same SDR brightness performance.
The GSync AW model has higher peak HDR brightness, but only in a mode that completely destroys HDR presentation and uses an aggressive ABL.
The freesync AW version pretty much follows the implementation of the G8, but goes almost imperceptibly brighter at the expense of response times and refresh rate.
and has proper video inputs
Again, this is not correct: the original G-Sync AW monitor relied on a single DP 1.4 to allow for full resolution and refresh rate without chroma subsampling… the two HDMI 2.0b ports gimped the monitor.
The Freesync version changed this to 2x DP 1.4 and 1x HDMI 2.0b, but the problem persists for HDMI devices.
The G8 offers micro-HDMI 2.1 at full bandwidth and a miniDP 1.4 port.
Where on earth did you get your information??
You're quite right about brightness in SDR I had the wrong numbers in memory. As for the connections no, miniDP and micro-HDMI are not good connections for a monitor. Full sized displayport is cheap and easy to find, miniDP will always be a unique connector and micro-HDMI is even rarer.
I'm seeing them pretty cheaply on Amazon, and the adapters even cheaper, so I can only assume they're even cheaper on AliE and during sales. Just need to make sure they have enough bandwidth for your usage.
There's a cable in the box, too.
Same price at Umart/msy and mwave too
better monitors out there, I say wait!
Is this g-sync compatible?
AMD Freesync premium pro
I know G-sync would have been nice but freesync is better than no freesync on windows 10 / 11
g-sync compatible, works nicely with my RTX 3080.
As much as I want it, I refuse to buy a Samsung OLED until their warranty covers burn in.
Alienware AW3423DWF is cheaper using link below and code AUAFFILIATES5% - works out to $1356.45.
Bro you can get the G8 OLED on the Samsung App for as low as $1119. It's simply a better deal.
Oooo can you link us please mate?
If I didn't already have the AW38DW, I would have pounced on this!
I should probably post this separately, but only 1299 on Samsung AU site…
I'm asking Dell via chat if can beat 1299 on the DWF! Wish me luck - rep has to email me back
I saw that just then as well. Not sure if we need to make a separate post but yeh…1300 is insane.
If it stacks with the 10% off first purchase and since its a new account, the $50 newsletter code too so it becomes around $1050
This is now out of stock!
Keep refreshing on app!!! I just got one this morning on Samsung education store. 1250(student price) + another %10 off for first time purchase on app.
Got the G8 OLED for $1110
Do you mean this OP OLED G8 34" for $1,110?
Yes the one OP is referring to. The G8 Ultra wide OLED. $1400 - another %15 discount for students on the Samsung app (click education store in settings) and another %10 off when it's your first purchase through their app.
Boom well played - stock levels seem weird - coming and going
Price?