MSI Katana 15 B12VGK-672AU 15.6" RTX4070 Core i7 Laptop $2099 Delivered @ Computer Alliance via eBay AU

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Big Lez on 08/11/2023 - 11:13 ebay.com.au (287 clicks)
Last edited 08/11/2023 - 11:27 by 1 other user

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This looks to be good value after searching through Lenovo, HP and MSI websites on their BF deals.

There are a few different models with varying CPUs/GPUs.

Description
CPU: Intel Core i7-12650H || 10 Cores 3.5GHz (24MB Cache, up to 4.7 GHz)
Screen Size: 15.6" FHD (1920x1080), 144Hz, close to 100% sRGB
GPU:Nvidia RTX4070 8GB GDDR6
RAM Size: 16GB DDR5 RAM (8GB x 2, 4800MHz)
SSD: 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen4
Ethernet Port: 1 x LAN Port
Wireless Connectivity: Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) + Bluetooth 5.2
Display Outputs: 1 x HDMI 2.1
Thunderbolt: No Thunderbolt
USB: 1 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C || 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A || 2 x USB 2.0
Audio Outputs: 1 x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
Other: No Optical Drive
Operating System: Windows 11

Warranty: 1 Year Australian Warranty & Support

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  jv on 08/11/2023 - 11:17

  Good deal for Eric.

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  kaikor on 08/11/2023 - 13:33

  so cheap for 4070 laptop but its a MSI POS quality as usual, sh|t hinge? … Wish Lenovo can do the same price!

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  Brrrrt on 08/11/2023 - 13:43

  +9

  Almost certainly of false advertising given virtually no budget 1080p 144hz ips panel made in 2023 are 100% srgb. That, and the fact that every review 1, 2, 3 4 on katana (and other low end MSI machines) are using an identical auo panel with 250 nits and only 60% srgb. Official spec sheet also do not mention anything about 100% srgb, neither.

  As for the rest of the machine - I've also talked about it plenty on here - and you can also check reviews online - but the gist of it remains the same - these chassis and cooling solution haven't seen real upgrade in many years at this stage and does not stand to the test of time. As if that lack of a fourth exhaust (and heatsink along with it), the shoddy looking fan, cut down battery (and blocked out 2.5' HDD space - again because this chassis is reused so much so many times over the years) and general doggy looking mobo doesnt tell you much - this thing have severe compromises to it.

  The only redeeming 'features' to that shoddy looking cooler, is the fact that 4070 only draws up to 100w max this gen, and that its using a below average cpu for 2023 - as such thermal stress of this isn't high and actual thermals aren't too bad, sadly, thats to no credit of MSI themselves.

  You are saving some 300-400 dollaroos at best (Legion 5 Pro 4070 is ~2.4k in sales excl. cashbacks, and comes down to 2.1k if paired up with extend CB) compared to other, good quality 4070 machines. Worth it? Hard to say, you are losing out big time to 13700HX/7745HX performance wise, not having any advantage compared to zen4 HS (or even 13th gen -H, which actually have decent battery runtime now), the screen is also massively cutdown as nearly everyone else with a 2k+ tag is using 16:10 1600p 165hz/240hz screen often with extra features like Gsync, HDR or 100% p3.

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    vger74656 on 08/11/2023 - 13:57

    Awesome rundown mate. I completely agree with this assessment. I would also imagine that the reduced wattage limitation would also hurt the functionality of the RTX4070. The Legion one runs at 140W if memory serves (ordered my 7i Pro last week and been doing a lot of research).

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      ASR-Briggs on 08/11/2023 - 16:18

      +1

      Unfortunately, you’ve fallen for a bit of marketing trickery :-P Lenovo do indeed advertise their mobile 4070 lappies as “boosting up to 140W”, which is theoretically true. But in reality they are capped at 100 W just like every other mobile 4070. Ngreedia implemented a hard voltage limit at just under 1V. The only non voltage limited mobile chips are the 4080 and 4090. I also only found this out after buying my 4070 Legion Pro :-P

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      Brrrrt on 08/11/2023 - 18:55

      As @ASR-Briggs also pointed out. This isnt much to do with the manufacturer, but with Nvidia themselves.

      With that said, as the Legion 7i have massively better thermal solution (and a much beefier cpu as well), this still means noticable performance uplift, over the MSI here - not to mention more overclocking headroom.

      One thing to also note that, as the Katana 15 here ramps up to 105w only - including the dynamic boost wattage (somewhere between 10-25w), this also means you may not even get up to 100w, as in cpu intensive games where if the cpu draws too much power - the 4070 here might only draw 80-90w, which is still lower than the ~100w 'wall'. On the other hand, Legion 7i's nominal wattage is 115w +25w dynamic boost, which means the 100w 'wall' falls within your base wattage and you can always enjoy that 'full performance', so to speak.

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    Big Lez on 08/11/2023 - 14:54

    Thanks for the insight, wasn't aware of MSI's quirks on this model.
    Do you know if the previous gen MSI Leopard suffers from the same issues?

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      Brrrrt on 08/11/2023 - 18:58

      GP66 12/11th gen?

      That's a very decent machine, generally speaking, anything thats GP/GE/GS/GT are good enough, anything not within these lineups are way below average.

      Only thing to be careful is the hinge on them which is a common failure point with MSI laptops of old (apparently fixed this year - but again, only within the GP/GE/GS/GT models), anything else is still reusing old chassis design, this includes the hinge.

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        AuQld on 09/11/2023 - 07:58

        I have the old apache pro, 7 years still going strong. The hinge broke when a kid stood on it in my bag, I had to replace the fan+ heatsink as well because of the incident, they had caked the thermal paste on after replacing it ran 10° cooler. The ssd went after 3/4 years, and the keyboard went this year. All parts were easily replaceable.

        I am leaning towards the leigion 7i as a replacement, with all the negativity around MSI at the moment.