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WUBEN T70 4200 Lumens USB-C Rechargeable Flashlight $111.99 Delivered @ Newlight Amazon AU

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Adding to everyone's flashlight torch collection is this big one from Wuben that's an absolute beast by offering up to 4200lm of brightness on the highest setting thanks to the XHP70.2 LED.

It's using a large 26650 5000mAh removeable battery with USB-C charging, IP68 water resistance and has 6 modes including low (up to 40lm), medium (up to 400lm), high (up to 1300lm), turbo (up to 4200lm), strobe (up to 1400lm) and SOS (up to 100lm).

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  • clubhonda on 19/10/2023 - 13:17
    +1

    What are people doing with 4200lm torches? Short of pretending to be a lighthouse or jedis with lightsabers that reaches the sky, what do people do with these?

    • shanty on 19/10/2023 - 13:20
      +1

      reach the sky….

    • plasmoske on 19/10/2023 - 13:28

      Pier fishing.

      3 meter high pier. Snapper or shark comes in. Can't see anything. Need some lights to be able to net or gaff it.

    • CoolHwip74 on 19/10/2023 - 13:44

      4200lm is only for about 1min or less. Then due to heat it will step down to lower brightness.

    • Pixie13 on 19/10/2023 - 13:44
      +6

      When you have a sickness of torch collecting, there is no practical reason

    • Tleyx on 19/10/2023 - 14:02

      Bicycle headlight

      • carrawa on 20/10/2023 - 04:06

        and indicating to a##holes they should dip their lights at night.

    • Big1 on 19/10/2023 - 14:41
      +1

      Protecting myself from the creatures in Pitch Black while taking the bins out.

    • Ademos on 19/10/2023 - 16:18

      Having fun, and that's pretty much it. Even 200lm is more than bright enough to light up a path, and pretty much where you'd run most lights if you want battery life.

      Tactical idiots will think people can't stab you while wincing slightly at the sun that is now very clearly and conveniently highlighting your position, while starting to burn your hand within 10 seconds.

      Search and rescue are getting something bigger with more heat sinking capacity / a fan so it doesn't drastically ramp down after the first minute, or they're running it at ~500 lumen anyway, until they spot something.

      Enthusiasts will look for something with higher color rendering index (which this doesn't even bother to list) and a nicer tint, so you can actually tell the dogshit apart from the leaves * before* you step in it, regardless of brightness. They'll also get a right angle light or headlamp so you can have 2x hands free to do hands things. Which as every camper can tell you, makes a giant difference.

      But. And this is a giant but, it is neat. Like really really neat.

      You an access a galaxy of options to your preference of LED, body, and color looking up the "Convoy" lights on aliexpress starting from ~$25. They won't have built in charging. But it's cheap thrills.

    • mckayver on 19/10/2023 - 19:37

      4200lm is not bright enough for the price. Don't buy it.

      Buy this.
      Sofirn SP36pro 8000lm for $89 or $80 with coupon. I have it and it's great, I bought a few for family too.
      They have a 11,000lm model too. I get that eventually.
      https://amzn.asia/d/2rQgDS1

      • Clear on 20/10/2023 - 10:01

        1lumen needs to get hold of the T70, as the SP36 Pro is only going up to 5359lm and drops.

    • bsp on 19/10/2023 - 21:36

      Start my campfire

    • poohduck on 20/10/2023 - 10:06

      lumens are kind of misleading. It's a bit of a wank. A 2000 lumen can throw 2 or 3 times further than a 3000 lumen light. I imagine lumen chasing has come from the US where there is a big emphasis on self defense. This is when high lumens make sense - they are blinding if you look into them.

      My sofirn C8G on high (1000 lumen) has a range of 454 meters. I rarely use more than low on this. The wuben here has a max range of 250m and that means running turbo (all that 4200 lumens) - it will drop from that 4200 lumens from the moment it's activated to around 50% within a few minutes.

      I'm sure the wuben is a more floody light, but realistically the range is more likely to be around 100m max (pushing it) on a sustainable level. It's probably closer to 50m in reality though.

      • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 10:57

        While often misunderstood, I would not call lumens a wank. Certainly not a very good one anyway ;)

        Lumens are the total light output of the torch, no matter what lens or reflector is has.
        Lux is lumens over a set area. 1 lux = one lumen per square meter.

        Throw is the range of the light. Generally, it is the distance at which the light level is 0.25 lux.

        For a given lumen output from an LED, to increase range, you need a reflector or lens that keeps the light in a tighter beam. Thus more lumens in a set area. The same lumen output from an LED can have a very short, or very long range, depending on the reflector or lens used.

        For a given reflector shape, to increase range, you need need to increase the lumens from your LED. So for a torch, low, medium, high, turbo modes all increase the range, because more lumens are output.

        The Sofirn C8G is fairly throwy light, with a decently tight beam thanks to the large, deep reflector.
        In comparison, other Sofirn lights use the same SST40 LED at 2000 lumen, and depending on reflector or lens, can be less than half the range, or closer to double.

        The potential downside to a long range torch (depending on usage) is that most of the output is in that tight, central beam. This means up close, the hotspot is very bright, while the wider amount of light (the spill) is comparatively dim.

        Very high lumen lights are a bit of a workaround to this in some circumstances. You can have a nice, wide even flood suited for closer use, but if you need higher range, you can inefficiently and briefly get it by using turbo mode.

        That's what the Wuben T70 does. And for example, a favourite of mine, the Sofirn SP33S.

        You can also get the same ~5000 lumen 70.2 LED output in the Sofirn SP70, which uses a monster reflector to get a range closer to the Sofirn C8G, but covering a much larger area at that distance.

        • poohduck on 20/10/2023 - 11:01

          over 2x the size? 2x the battery capacity. It drops to 27% within 25mins. So 27% is sustainable - what is the range then? I'm guessing less that my C8G on low

          • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 11:25

            @poohduck: The Sofirn SP70? Yeah, longer range is a trade off with a bigger reflector, which typically makes the torch much longer and wider. A few of the deep reflectors are not too wide, and some of the TIR lens torches are nice - they are a lot shorter, but still quite wide.

            I also have the Sofirn IF22A. It uses a TIR lens rather than a reflector, and is quite compact for a 21700 torch, considering the excellent 697m range. Not so good up close though unless at the lower outputs. And super cheap on sale - IIRC I paid about $30 on Aliexpress.

            Hopefully someone does an affordable, 21700, boost driver, single LED TIR torch at some point that is more of a mix between throw and flood. I have the IF25A with quad SST20s and a TIR lens. For $40 or so it outputs an awesome amount of light for the size and has decent range, but the thermals are not amazing.

            • poohduck on 20/10/2023 - 11:34

              @Prong: the length is more likely related to the 2 x 26650 batteries, compared to the 1 x 26650 of the wuben, or the 1 x 21700 of my C8G.

              • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 11:54

                @poohduck: I was referring to length of lens. For a lower diameter torch, a fairly deep reflector is used if long range is wanted.
                TIR lenses can be a bit shorter, but many are slightly less efficient (fewer lumens make it through).

                The TIR lens IF22A is a good comparison, because the original IF22 model used a reflector. The TIR lens is the same diameter, but about 10mm shorter, and has a slightly longer range.

                https://budgetlightforum.com/t/sofirn-if22-if22a-comparison/…

                But yes, other design choice like number of batteries contribute to overall torch length as well.

          • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 11:42
            +1

            @poohduck: Missed the edit.

            over 2x the size? 2x the battery capacity. It drops to 27% within 25mins. So 27% is sustainable - what is the range then? I'm guessing less that my C8G on low

            Which torch do you mean?

            I wasn't making a comparison with how good a torch or not any specific one was. Just picking models that use similar LEDs / have similar lumens / have similar ranges, to give some real like examples of lumens vs reflector type and range.

            The C8G is a good torch, and I was not suggesting otherwise. My point is that everything is a trade off.

            • poohduck on 20/10/2023 - 11:44

              @Prong: "Which torch do you mean?" The one you mentioned, sofirn SP70; it uses 2 x 26650 batteries

              You might like the sofirn C8L - I have that too. It is supposedly a good mix between flood and throw. I think it is that if I compare it to wurkkos ts22 which is flood - I have that with xhp70.3. If I bought another light now, it would probably be convoy m21b with xhp70.3 - it has op reflector and no onboard charging, which I see as an advantage. It will hold 35% which should be enough for my needs. I think this would be better than my C8L for night time riding of euc.

              • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 12:14

                @poohduck: Yes. I used the Sofirn SP70 has an example to illustrate lumens and range, and didn't speak to torch length, or batteries, as they are not factors in this comparison.

                I chose it because it has the same 70.2 LED as the Wuben T70, but has a range that overlaps with the Sofirn C8G. I don't own the SP70 or the C8G, and they are torches for different use cases so there is no actual comparison here in that regard.

                Notably, he SP70 has worse range than the C8G at a comparable lumen level, but a higher range at full output.

                How's it get worse range? Because the reflector does not create as tight a beam as the C8G, so lux at a specific distance is lower, as the total lumens are spread over a wider area.

                How's it get higher range at full output? Because by outputting over 2x as many total lumens, the light spread over a wider area is still brighter, which results in a longer distance until the 0.25 lux level.

                It's a good example of how higher lumen can be traded for increased range on turbo. So while many lights chase high lumens for little point, others use it to good advantage.

              • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 12:58
                +1

                @poohduck: Yeah the C8L is nice, but I am not a big fan of tail buttons. I find it a pain to use when boating.

                I have found the Sofirn SP33S very versatile, because nothing else seems to come close to the sustained output for the price. It can hold about 2000 lumens for 20 minutes, which is perfect for me doing fast dinghy trips back to my houseboat at night.

                But I'd love a 21700 version of the SP33S with a TIR lens that gives a touch more range. I'd happily trade off max output, as long as I can sustain 2000 lumens or so for a decent time. The form factor might be too small to make that a reasonable request in a cheaper light.

                • poohduck on 20/10/2023 - 13:45

                  @Prong: I'm only mentioning this in the case that you haven't tried one of these 2 switch sofirns. Both the C8G and C8L have this setup - it's the best I've tried. Tail switch is forward clicky - half press activates light. You can also use half press to see battery level, or change the mode with the side switch, before going full click. I often just touch the tail switch when I want to light something up quickly eg under lit areas but something is in the dark.

    • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 10:17

      Keep in mind you don't run at turbo mode for long, because you get a few minutes at most until it ramps down due to heat.

      So it's mostly about using it at lower brightness, and being able to hit turbo mode if you need to briefly light up a large area.

      I have the Sofirn SP33S, which is similar over spec, but newer, better and cheaper.

      It can run on high mode (2000 lumen) for about 20 minutes before ramping down. Longer in cooler weather.

      Primary use is boating (I often dinghy at night too and from a houseboat) where having a bright light is key. Don't want to hit a barely floating log at speed. Also useful for shining around on turbo and making all the mullet jump.

      Secondary use is night dog park trips. I have a rubber clip and stick it on the fence, and it lights the place up. Mostly helps avoid stepping in poop.

      Aside from that, just general torch usage, which does not often involve having to use turbo mode aside from fun.

  • solidfruit on 19/10/2023 - 13:35
    +2

    You can get astrolux that are 2x brighter at this price

  • justcallmeboss on 19/10/2023 - 16:21

    Over time, you realise, a warm tint, 1000ish Lumen, boosted torch with low duv is all you need. Key words, "over time". B35AM gang checking in.

    • iori57 on 19/10/2023 - 19:44

      Yes boss

    • CoolHwip74 on 20/10/2023 - 10:48

      I am guessing Emisar brand

  • Prong on 20/10/2023 - 10:05

    This is an older model and there are better torches for less.

    For a 70.2, 26650 torch, the Sofirn SP33S is hard to beat IMO.

    It's usually around $75 AUD (a bit under $70 ATM), but often on sale for around $60. (You want the newer SP33S, not the older SP33 of SP33V3.0.)

    It's the same spec as this deal, but a bit more compact, and has a very good regulated LED driver, and excellent thermals.

    Key IMO is that the SP33S can sustain high mode for 15+ minutes, whereas the Wuben T70 ramps down to about half that after a few minutes.

    For a tiny 18650 torch, I am continually impressed by the Sofirn SC18, which can be bought for around $20 AUD on sale.

  • slam6000 on 30/10/2023 - 00:52

    Just the 4th charge the usb c port on it won't hold the charger cable in . Cable is proven good. Nah

  • slam6000 on 30/10/2023 - 00:54

    Sorry not this particular Wubin but . Apologies

  • zealmax on 06/11/2023 - 18:42

    I like 21700 batteries better. Same capacity as 26650 but in a smaller form factor.

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