Over the years I have purchased items from overseas and had sent to family member who then sent on to me but have not done so since covid began.
Does gst still stand at $1000 without any fees I mean less than a $1000.
If i remember it was $1000 or over then gst kicked in.
Or has this amount changed?
Importing into Australia GST
bwatt72 on 05/10/2023 - 20:55
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@jv
Your links are to Australian businesses importing goodsThe OP is getting a relative to 'export' to him. I think the following is what applies
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-busine…
Is this not for over $1000 then 10%?
When I look it up elsewhere it still says up to $1000 no gst charge and has been the case for years now.
But in saying that last time I had a box sent over was last Xmas and no 10% was charged then was under $1000 obviously
I think it comes down to luck.
If it looks like a commercial shipment, you'll be pinged. If it looks like a gift from family, you should be fine.
That said, you won't be able to quote me on that.
"If it looks like a commercial shipment, you'll be pinged. If it looks like a gift from family, you should be fine."
I just did
Just give it a crack and assume you’ll get pinged.
If you don’t, then even better. If you’re weighing up if it’s cheaper to buy something overseas did you also consider possible warranty claim issues?It’s stuff I can’t get in in Australia well not the same stuff, I don’t buy them overseas cause might be cheaper it’s cause sometimes I can’t get them in au or I get better editions overseas.
As I said for years the go was $1000 of less no gst paid and does this rule still stand.
I know the likes of big companies like amazon,ebay etc charge you for this to get stuff into aus but that is cause the sell $$$$$ worth of stuff and government wants a cut.I don’t believe the $1000 has changed for us individually but as said it been a while since had a few boxes sent at once.
And one sent from family member sent for kids Xmas was not even checked or opened or custom forms even looked at. And has been the case stuff I had sent.
All I’m trying to find out if this $1000 is still active
for years I have had family member send me stuff for kids Xmas in a big box and for years I have ordered stuff from overseas and had family members pack stuff up for me and I pay for it my end and was less than $1000 in value.
Is this still the case nothing to pay less than $1000?
I will have three boxes to send or should I say getting sent to me. Postage sure is expensive to send these compared to past.
No GST + import tax on stuff <$1000.
That’s what I thought so nothing has changed in recent times I know the government was thinking about it but has not changed it yet.
They require overseas stores to charge GST and collect on their behalf. Family and friends sending you stuff is different .
@Clear: Yes I’m buying stuff from overseas or should I say stuff has been here since 2020 when covid started.
I had plans to send stuff over when flights got back to normal and sending to myself, family member packs it up I just pay and arrange collection, but cause I’m currently there on holiday I be doing it myself.
I wish I did this before when shipping was cheap or no war or high fuel prices.
I will have three large boxes of stuff so it may drawn attention when it arrives in aus. That’s mainly due to leaving original packaging on the items for protection.
I have done similar before and even two boxes of stuff with no issues but left these a bit long and kept adding to it.
It’s obviously cheaper to send the three at once than separate.
family members buys stuff for kids for Xmas and sends it over as they are older I arrange the payments and paperwork they just pass on to courier and again never had issues.
Everything was always below the $1000 cost.
@bwatt72: If you are moving a shipment with a total value in excess of $1000 you are likely to attract GST, but not if the total value is lower.
If you carry the goods as luggage you will have the usual duty free allowance.
Not sure why you got negged. No gst is collected sub-$1000 by Auspost. Other shipping companies may have different policies.
International online stores turning over above a $75k threshold are requested to collect gst on their sales and remit to the ATO.The neggers are idiots and they're welcome to prove me wrong instead of hiding. Considering they can't tell the difference between a business and family sending something I don't think there's much hope.
@Clear: Take it easy. Most people are idiots. Neggers are idiots who are too lazy or insecure to post a counter position.
GST has been applied to low value imports since 2018. You'll also pay import duty according to the customs commodity you're importing - for consignment values exceeding $1,000.
Cool that’s all I wanted to know I thought maybe government would having done a money grab and changed this by now.
But good to know it’s still as isIt was impacting Uncle Gerry's profit margins so he among others lobbied the government to impose GST on private imports. ABF is currently offline but I think the applicable tariff classification is unsolicited gifts.
This is not correct. The gst collection is only for international stores conducting over $75k turnover to Australia.
OP is asking about getting a family member to send goods, not a store shipping to Australia.Source:
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-busine…I thought the turnover threshold required the international merchant to collect the GST at the point of sale, where private imports will get assessed when they reach the border - and maybe transit the border without GST being imposed at ABF's discretion?
Auspost doesn't collect gst at the border under $1000. DHL used to collect over $250, but not sure these days. ABF use their discretion to not bother with things under $1000.
If you were a foreign web shop, you would only collect gst if you were doing serious trade.
Why raise your prices 10% if you can slip under the radar? Nobody here cares except Gerry Harvey, and he has seen that all the big players are registered so is happy enough.But again, this is about a personal shipment valued under $1000. No gst is due, nor is there a mechanism to collect it.
@mskeggs: I concur, they generally don't collect GST or import duty under $1K. Back in the day the minimum invoice value for import duty was $50 so a commodity with a 5% tariff needed to exceed $1K to be chargeable. Not sure what happens now with GST added to the mix. Probably depends on the commodity being declared. I wouldn't expect to sneak $1K worth of vaping consumables across the border via Aust Post.
@mskeggs: Courier services, will collect GST on imports under $1k. They'll likely also collect the duty and their own admin fees as well.
If you want the greatest chance to avoid it, use a postal service.
Foreign companies don't care less about Australian laws
I doubt customs could check and think about each package they get per day even if they wanted to. The way most people are forced to pay it is by big sellers like Amazon and eBay applying GST automatically. I order a tonne of stuff from small niche shops all over the world and never get charged GST, even if the value is over 1k.
I import things under/over 1k all the time. Mainly via UPS & Fedex.
They do not charge GST/duties if the 'customs value' + cost of freight is less than $1000AUD.
I import things under/over 1k all the time. Mainly via UPS & Fedex.
If you use a freight forwarder like shipito or myus from US/EU, they collect GST for items under 1k too before sending your goods.
I wonder how couriers like UPS/Fedex/DHL are able to avoid collecting GST when companies like shipito and myus don't.
For low value (<$1000) sales by companies overseas —> they have to charge GST and give the ATO. No GST charged at the border
For sales over $1000, GST is charged at the border, the seller doesn't collect GSTIf the parcel is sent to you by a relative (who's not the seller), then no GST is payable on low value imports
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/International-tax-for-busine…
Not sure why the neg. Would be great if the person who negged this, presumably as the info is wrong, could give the correct information
Also see item 100 here https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?LocID=%22COG%2FLCR2…
"100. Unless certain exceptions apply, the importation of goods will not be a taxable importation if goods are included in a consignment with a customs value of $1,000 or less that is:
• sent by international mail from one person to another, or
• sent by air or sea cargo, from one person to another, where the goods are all transported to Australia in the same ship or aircraft.[32]"
Do customs take into account the cost of shipping or just value of goods with this $1000 as my items are just below $1000 yet shipping is expensive
Customs value is commercial or billing invoice value plus freight charges.
Not sure what you mean by that I have commercial invoice which gives list of value of items and stated on the form at top of page gives cost of freight.
So the $1000 allowed is this just value of items or do they add the cost of freight to the value of items which would take it well over the $1000Combined value of goods and shipping. Shipping is a service so GST applies to it.
@apsilon: That’s a bugger what % will I pay on gst on shipping?
Postage is very high for this 3 box shipment and I already have it booked in and paid for had no idea I be paying gst on shipping as my items don’t come over $1000@bwatt72: I think you'll be OK, as the $1K threshold applies only to the goods. Once you go over the $1K, the freight charge gets added to determine the dutiable value.
@sumyungguy: Ok cool I do hope as never been charged gst just on shipping and they sure are expensive at these current times
@bwatt72: GST is 10%. Can't recall if you already said but how's the item being sent? If it's via post you'll likely be fine as Aust Post can't be bothered collecting it even if it's over $1k. If it's via a courier they almost certainly will plus their admin fees etc.
https://business.gov.au/products-and-services/importing/impo…
https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing…
enjoy………….