10 cent refund scheme for recyclable bottles/cans is apparently starting in November in Victoria.
Details in link above.
Are people aware and looking forward to it? Is it worth the effort or will you just chuck in the recycling bin at home?
[VIC] Container Deposit Scheme Commencing November 2023
kokopop on 19/09/2023 - 21:29
Last edited 19/09/2023 - 23:16 by 1 other user
Last edited 19/09/2023 - 23:16 by 1 other user
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Bring back the carbon economy.
I want ten cents for each of my plants
CDS Vic will target beverage containers that most commonly contribute to litter and are often consumed away from home.
Exempt containers include:
Glass wine bottles
Glass spirit bottles
Juice bottles 1 litre and over
Cordial bottles
Milk (other than flavoured milk)
Concentrated fruit or vegetable juice
Health tonicsIs it a joke or something?
"Like all Australian schemes, CDS Vic will be funded by beverage suppliers."
Then why do you have to pay 10 cents extra for every can, bottle or carton of anything you buy?
They're passing the cost onto us, isn't that how capitalism works? (sad but true)
Isn't the idea that you pay 10c when you buy it, and get your 10c back when you return it?
@pjetson: In theory yes, in practice, good luck with that. Think about when you are out somewhere and you buy a can of drink or a bottle of water or a beer. Are you going to carry the empty ones around all day until you get home, collect them all for a few weeks, drive them to a collection station and stand in line waiting for the people in front of you to work out how the machine works.
It all sounded fine when they introduced it up here in Qld a few years ago, but …..
You will also find people going through your recycling bin at 2am too … so if you don't want the neighbourhood to find out you are the streets alcoholic then you should crush all you cans and smash all your bottles ;-)
Are you going to carry the empty ones around all day until you get home
Yes
collect them all for a few weeks
Months, but yes.
drive them to a collection station
Yes.
stand in line
Never been a line every time I've gone. Also have multiple places within similar distances. One has the hole-in-the-wall machines that you feed your containers into one at a time, the other has a hopper they dump your sorted bottles into.
waiting for the people in front of you to work out how the machine works.
Never seen anyone struggle with it, but as above never that many people there every time I've gone.
It all sounded fine when they introduced it up here in Qld a few years ago, but …..
but ….. it's been working fine? As above, not had any issues myself.
You will also find people going through your recycling bin at 2am too …
Only seen this once, and it wasn't 2am.
so if you don't want the neighbourhood to find out you are the streets alcoholic then you should crush all you cans and smash all your bottles ;-)
They'll still know you're an alcoholic if they see the crushed cans and smashed bottles in the bin. They'll also think you're an idiot.
The deposit is around 18c passed onto customer.
The refund is 10c
'been saving my empties for the past 5 years already ;-)
Price goes up approx 15 cents per bottle, this covers operating costs of the recycling program.
I did a bit of work on this along with the large supermarkets and the scheme partners.
Consumers won't be the winners from this, and I genuinely did not interact with any key stakeholders who actually gave a crap about the environmental and recycling element.
The big questions were, how the scheme partners could make the most money, which key partners would have the deposit machines on site and get the rental fees and how the supermarkets would distribute the refunds without losing too much to admin AND how to effectively get customers (eg. One the two large supermarkets has the capability to credit refunds to their app)
Why oh why do the eastern states have to make this stuff so complicated?
SA been doing it just fine since 1977 - no weird apps, supermarket involvement, whacky vending machines or plagues of bin tipping.
We do have heaps of recyclers (Scouts being one of the largest) and kids and pensioners happily grabbing tax free income. No one bats an eye lid at bin diving for bottles here.
Champion level right here 💪 👇
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrF7FM3S80We’re the eastern states, needlessly complicating things for
The rest of the country is what we do!Victorians, enjoy having people rummage through your recycling bins every Tuesday night! Especially if you live in a more densely populated parts of Melbourne.
I’m in Sydney and never used the scheme because of how much effort it would involve (we also don’t use that many products eligible for the refund).
enjoy having people rummage through your recycling bins every Tuesday night!
My bins are emptied on Tuesday morning, so rummaging through my recycling bin on Tuesday night would be rather pointless.
This sounds NQR to me (from FAQs):
“Can I start collecting containers now?
Eligible containers cannot be collected for redemption until the scheme starts. The CDS relies on the scheme costs being included in the price of the container at the time of purchase. This won’t occur until the scheme has officially commenced in November 2023. In the meantime, we encourage you to continue to recycle your household recyclables as you would normally do in the kerbside recycling bin.”November is a bit over a month away. How will they distinguish between what I collect now and in November?
Sounds to me like they want to pass extra cost onto all consumers first (at purchase) and then some of us get to “benefit” by getting deposit back? Am I missing something?
Reallly, thats just bureaucrat speak by some bored Public Servant working from home.
The refund is calculated on the bar code of the container. Its the same container/barcode that every other state uses. Thats the one on the containers now.
Save them now and get something back. Just like those on the border with Vic have bought drinks and redeemed the 10c in either NSW or SA, for years.
Of course if people want to be good, they can trash their bottles now and wait. However if they are really good, they should also mark all the bottles in their cupboard with marks so they know which were bought before the deadline and which were bought afterwards. Its recycling anyway so isnt that the reason why its been introduced.
And Turn in their Ozbargain membership as well.
i don't like the scheme because the prices of the items go up more than the refund amount, some items have already been jacked in price a fair whack and this will only make it more expensive,
A reverse vending machine for the container deposit scheme has recently been installed at Altona Meadows. Looks like people can't actually start using it until the 1st November when the scheme formally starts though.
https://maribyrnonghobsonsbay.starweekly.com.au/news/cleanaw…
I live in the ACT and have been using ReCollect. They keep 4 cents, I get 6 cents for each container returned. A minimum of 150 containers for a pickup and booked a collection every 3 months. I have purchased a can crusher ($12?) and a garden bench/storage box ($50?). My neighbours and I combine our containers and every three months use the money received from ReCollect to purchase a case of a beer (using either a 5% discount gift voucher or CashRewards discount) we have not tried and enjoy an few evenings of neighbourly conversations.
Since the introduction of the Container Deposit Scheme we have noticed a considerable lack of sports/energy drink containers on the nearby ovals.
Cheers.
Stock up on drinks now before the price rise.
Depends on the locations, but definitely a good thing (if the companies actually recycle the bottles)