good for fathers day weekend
carbon frame and rims
fox 36 rhythms
slx/deore drivetrain (boo)
down from $7,299 (45% off a ridiculous rrp)
Giant Trance X Advanced Pro 29 2 $3,999 (Pickup from Retailer) @ Giant Bicycles
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Expensive bike components (are expensive) but they are also really precisely made are durable and light and generally do a great job so that new entries to the market have a tough time replicating the performance and the quality manufacturers can command a high price.
An quality carbon frame will last you a good amount of time (my road bike from 2011 is still going strong) and is lighter than other options which makes a difference to the experience as it's easier to get moving (and you can pick your bike up and carry it etc when required). A cheap carbon frame might break and kill you, so people are willing to pay a premium for a reliable manufacturer.
It's a valid question and one that I can't give a good answer aside from "because people will pay it". Carbon fibre frames are ~$1000 from Chinese open mold maufacturers (hongfu, dengfu, light bicycle, trifox et al), but Giant will probably charge you $3000-4000 for the frame. Carbon wheels will set you back $1000-2000 (light bicycle, winspace, farsports) but again Giant will charge you $2000-3000 for them. The components would set you back maybe $1000 each for front and rear shocks, groupset $500-1000, dropper seat post several hundred etc.
Why does this cost more than a cheap motorbike? Economies of scale, mountain cycling and road cycling has become a hobby of the rich who are more than happy to fork out big bucks for leisure. Probably the last bit is the biggest factor. While it's "easy" to build a road bike from Chinese bits online, a full suspension MTB is a little bit tricker as frames are often built to suit certain suspension kinematics so unfortunately, you have to be pretty sure you know what you're doing if you want to go down the path of build your own MTB while you can easily copy and paste a road bike geometry you're happy with onto an open mold frame.
You hit the nail on the head , why does this cost more than a cheap motorbike !
Always my point , unless you can't be stuffed going for your licence.You cannot ride a motorbike where you would ride a mountain bike, and you would not ride a mountain bike where you would ride a motorbike. Not a great "point".
A motorcycle and mountain bike have very different purposes. It's like saying how can a motorbike cost more than a push bike? You can't even carry it in to your apparment!
"Serious" road and mountain bicycles are much more sensitive to, and therefore much more highly optimised for, weight, using more expensive materials and manufacturing processes. Their manufacture also involves a lot more manual labour, especially the carbon fibre ones.
Seems like a ridiculously inflated RRP (some of the components are low-midrange and not what I'd expect on a 7K non-electric bike).
This
I don't think many people pay RRP for new high end bikes. That being said, I have this exact bike and it kicks the crap out of all the other bikes I've compared it to in the 5000-8000 range. A bunch of people are ripping into this for not having XT, but a bike isn't just about the components. The build quality of the frame and balance of the whole ride is hard to beat. It's damn light for a DS too. The components could be a step up, but what it has is fantastic. There are seriously diminishing returns on components above this range, most of the keyboard warriors on ozbargain wouldn't be able to tell the difference between deore and xtr.
Carbon frame, and even then it's somewhat overpriced.
Good question. I'm wondering the same thing, and I know exactly what I'm looking at.
It's fair value at the discounted price at least…
whats the cheapest carbon mb these days?
Some of the direct to consumer mtb brands like Canyon etc might be a good pick. Cheap and carbon and Mtb doesn't work well (stick the aluminium on cheap)
https://qrcycles.com/products/voodoo-bizango-carbon-pro-moun…
Best carbon hard tail from a bang vs buck pov
$2.3K
You will need to fly to singapore and also pay $25 for the oversized baggage fee
Or pay $815 delivery : ) .
Haha, or have a really good mate who's there now and is coming back to au!
How much hassle is lugging a big bike box to the airport check-in 😂
Damn that's a good price. I personally still prefer 27.5, so are tossing up the Trance X 1 which is almost 2k off, but that's not as good a deal as this
The let down would be the crankset and the pressfit bracket, then the suspension and shocks.
Big plus would be the carbon wheelset and rear triangle.
Otherwise YT and Canyon probably have similiar offerings with a slightly better component mix.How tf they going to put deore spec on a $7200 bike
Shrinkflation. Specialized are terrible at this too, they put SRAM Rival on $10k RRP bikes. It's not until you hit the $20k S-Works wank that they finally crack out the SRAM Red.
I think Specialized woke up one morning a few years ago believing it was Santa Cruz…
Doof doof doof trance. Pew pew pew.
Canyon have some bikes on sale atm, spectral 125 CF7 for $3869+ shipping would be my choice instead if you don't need the extra travel.
+1 for Canyon. Been riding a Spectral 29 CF 9 for two years now. Value compared to other brands is up there.
$3750 at Giant South Yarra. They had it for $3495 a few weeks ago in small/medium sizes.
Know anyone with any proof I could use to sway them here in QLD? Tried it on but not having it :( Cheers
Terrible drivetrain and brakes. Such a waste on the frame and wheels.
At $7k RRP I'd expect XT, but we all know this bike is built to compete in the $5k entry level carbon trail bike category, no one in their right mind would pay anywhere near$7k for this even outside of sales. As such, it's spec'd as expected.
And absolutely nothing wrong with 12 speed Deore/SLX and unless you are a total weight weenie or need fancy dimples on your brake levers, there is effectively zero performance difference. You'd be much better throwing money at better suspension if you wanted to see any tangible improvement.
Not sure if still true today but I used to prefer SLX over XT in spite of already having XT gear because I realised the SLX tended to be made of all steel whereas the XT would be aluminium to save weight. For some components, chainrings for example, the SLX would last me a lot longer.
Deore brakes are just as good as Deore XT, they just have fewer adjustments. There's nothing "terrible" about them, other than perhaps your opinion.
And I don't think anything needs to be said about the SLX drivetrain.
SLX 12 speed is solid and works really well, maybe not the lightest, but a good groupset. Similarly, the Deore 4 pots brakes are outstanding value for money. Some companies spec them on cheap downhill bikes and I'd certainly choose them over a Code R.
That being said, they are on the heavy side, for a lightweight trail bike.
Agreed, I have bikes with both Deore and XT 4-pots and there is effectively zero tangible difference when I jump between.
And throw an XT shifter on a Deore drivetrain and you've made up majority of the difference in feel between them, the rest is just weight. I also prefer to run Deore rear mech as it's far cheaper to replace when you stuff it up.
Clearly not a 7k bike but it's hard to beat at 4k.
What's the closest comp with Carbon rims?
As someone with zero bike knowledge- why is this 7300 RRP?