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Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 AM5 mATX Motherboard $154 + Shipping @ Umart

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Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 AM5 mATX Motherboard $154 + Shipping @ Umart
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misterbobs on 30/08/2023 - 11:18 umart.com.au (1990 clicks)
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Cheapest B650M chipset motherboard I have seen by far … good deal have already purchased one for myself to begin the slow piecemeal process of building a new pc.

The ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 ($119.99) is a budget-class board supporting flagship-class AM5 processors. It’s a bit short on USB ports on the rear IO, and doesn’t include (but supports) Wi-Fi – but it does have a PCIe 5.0 M.2 socket. And if you raise the out-of-box temperature limit, it’s just as performant as much more expensive options.

Pros
+Doesn’t get any less expensive
+PCIe 5.0 M.2 slot
+Supports flagship-class CPU
Cons
-Lowered temp limit hinders performance
-Only six USB Type-A ports on rear IO
-Wi-Fi not included
-No RGBs (even headers)

Computing AM5 ASRock Computer Component Motherboard

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  • BennyHe2018 on 30/08/2023 - 11:21
    +5

    A decent board from the review of HUB:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeTA1rds1s

    • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:21
      -6

      That's a crazy review. He gets the cheapest AM5 board available, then tests it with the most expensive CPU available. As if the same person would buy those two, and pair them.

      And 16 seconds to boot Windows! That's supposed to be good? I knew my PC was faster than that. A LOT faster. So I powered it down, then rebooted it. It took 5 seconds to go from pressing the power button to the Windows desktop, ready to go.

      • feathers9 on 30/08/2023 - 13:28
        +3

        Did you miss the part where they showed the boot times of all the other am5 motherboards ?

        • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:34
          -4

          So I shouldn't "upgrade" to an AM5 system?

          • netsurfer on 30/08/2023 - 13:59

            @GordonD: You can "upgrade" to AM5, but don't turn off the system or just put it to sleep to avoid reboot. No more 16 or 20 seconds delay.
            Not sure how accurate the boot time is though. Once the Wifi card is added, the boot time could be longer.

            This board also only has 2 DIMMs so it would boot faster.

          • feathers9 on 30/08/2023 - 14:35

            @GordonD: If a 15 second boot up time is a deal breaker to you then no.

      • Solrak on 30/08/2023 - 13:29
        +1

        From memory I believe newer BIOS updates address the slower boot times

      • Lonewolf1983 on 30/08/2023 - 13:40
        +1

        its designed to test out the boards for comparison, what is the point if you're going to run a 65w CPU - every board on the market can do that.
        It also accounts for future potential CPU's which may draw more power by default.

        AM5 load times were an issue but have largely been resolved by manufacturers with bios updates

        • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:59
          -1

          AM5 load times were an issue but have largely been resolved by manufacturers with bios updates

          Doesn't look like it.

          • DiscountForThee on 30/08/2023 - 14:15

            @GordonD: Do you mean from first-hand reports that you've seen this week? Or are you talking about the video from 4 months ago?

      • Sinnerator on 31/08/2023 - 08:19

        are you using FASTSTARTUP? or is that turned off so you can a 'clean' boot each time?

  • netsurfer on 30/08/2023 - 11:26

    M.2 Socket (Key E) for WiFi expansion is handy, but essentially only 1 USB 3.2 gen 2 header (not going to be easy to find a cost effective case that supports that). Inclusion of the Thunderbolt 4 header is interesting, but Thunderbolt 4 AIC doesn't work well with AMD based systems.

    VRM, well, as usual for AsRock boards in this class, just enough to be considered acceptable.

    • CrazyBargainCatcher on 30/08/2023 - 11:38

      All (basically) AM5 boards have overkill VRM's. This has a 8+2+1 60A. More than acceptable, can even handle the 170w cpu's with the temp limit turned off.

      • netsurfer on 30/08/2023 - 11:44

        Not having any USB 3.2 gen 2 ports at the back is annoying and even if the front header is used, that only provides 1 port. The AsRock Thunderbolt 4 AIC is difficult to get.

        VRM, out of all the acceptable ones, this one pretty much places last place.

  • Bruceflix on 30/08/2023 - 11:48

    This might go well in my nas as my case limits me to mATX. Do you think it could handle a 7950x?

    • Void on 30/08/2023 - 13:07
      +5

      What are you doing with the NAS that requires a 7950X?

    • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:27

      The review linked to above tested it with a 7950X.

  • Krondorf on 30/08/2023 - 11:50

    If only there was a AM5 cpu with decent onboard GPU for HTPC/gaming use
    when there is.. i'll be on it i think

    • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:25
      -1

      All AM5 CPUs have onboard video. Everyone acknowledges its not gaming speed graphics, but its there. I haven't seen anyone do a test to see if its comparable to the graphics on previous generation AMD -G processors with onboard graphics, or slower or faster.

      What the next series of AM5 processors coming is going to do is not have that on-board graphics.

      • BennyHe2018 on 30/08/2023 - 13:36
        +1

        Except 7500F.

      • Krondorf on 30/08/2023 - 18:55

        Yes, which is why i said decent GPU…
        But there's stuff in the works, to be released soon

        • scud70 on 30/08/2023 - 20:53

          There will likely be APUs (most probably on OEM boxes) at some point in the future … Or grab a ROG Ally and put it on a dock hehe

          • Krondorf on 30/08/2023 - 21:03

            @scud70: APU based PC would be more adaptable than ROG Ally though i think?

            • scud70 on 30/08/2023 - 21:07

              @Krondorf: Oh definitely, as ChatGPT below mentions it is on the AMD roadmap… I was joking to be honest even though it's actually a use case that's possible with the Ally.

  • jonathonsunshine on 30/08/2023 - 12:19

    yes, it has a lot of usb pin headers on the motherboard but not many cases will support that many and the real kicker is four usb 2.0 on the back vs only 2 usb3.

    (USB-C ports are pretty much meaningless to me).

  • kron on 30/08/2023 - 12:19
    +3

    Can we get some bloody ATX mobo deals? C'mon retailers.

  • Chris T on 30/08/2023 - 12:29
    +1

    And if you raise the out-of-box temperature limit, it’s just as performant as much more expensive options.

    Performant is my new word for the day.

  • iDrownFish on 30/08/2023 - 12:56

    Oh damn no rgb at all

    • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 13:26
      +6

      Oh, great, no bloody silly RGB at all. My money won't be wasted on that.

    • twig on 30/08/2023 - 18:59
      +1

      You say that as if it's a bad thing

  • Kazusa on 30/08/2023 - 13:18

    2 Dimm slots so should overclock ram a lot better than 4 dimm setups

    • OzBargain0183 on 30/08/2023 - 23:18

      I have a budget 6 layer 4 DIMM b650m motherboard and it can do DDR5 8000 with a $145 Vulcan 5600mhz 32GB Hynix M-die kit already using AGESA 1.0.0.7C. One of the highest overclocks achieved (9000MHz CL54 on a premium overclocking focused 2 DIMM board) is only at a 12.5% higher frequency what I got with CL36 on a cheap DDR5 kit and a Mortar B650m so it doesn’t make as much of a difference as you think.

  • Bruceflix on 30/08/2023 - 14:17

    Back to $249

    • CrazyBargainCatcher on 30/08/2023 - 14:20

      Still $154, maybe your local store is excluded?

      • Bruceflix on 30/08/2023 - 14:22

        Must be. Opened in incognito and back to $154 + delivery

  • Look Up on 30/08/2023 - 14:25
    +1

    Great budget board

    Based on the spec inflation pushed by AMD, fitting in beefier VRM's, more PCB layers and tighter DDR5/PCI-e 5.0 traces to hit AUD$150 is top work from ASRock

    Recommended by buildzoid as the best board for simple builds

  • Quarter Pounder on 30/08/2023 - 14:51
    +2

    No RGB headers is a killer for me.

    • Chris T on 30/08/2023 - 15:11

      Why does anyone still want to use RGB?

      • Quarter Pounder on 30/08/2023 - 15:15
        +2

        I have 6 RGB fans not including my CPU cooler. Would be a waste to not be able to use the RGB

        • Chris T on 30/08/2023 - 18:28

          Oh, right. Sorry, my mistake, I was thinking of VGA! (This motherboard doesn't have that either.)

      • iDrownFish on 30/08/2023 - 15:20
        +1

        Some people enjoy building aesthetic pcs and desk setups. Personally, I'm after an all white build and wanted to have my rgb set to all white like my current pc.

  • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 14:54

    Ah, decision, decisions.

    This board because its only $154, and I can afford to chuck it if something better comes along.

    Or the MSI ITX board because its smaller, and has better USB, including a 20 Mb/s USB port. Even though it costs twice as much, and the 2nd M.2 slot is on the back of the board and requires removing the board to swap it.

    Maybe I'll wait until they get the bootup time down from 16 seconds. Or at least I can get some idea whether the on-chip graphics on a 7600 is similar in speed to the graphics in a 5600G and not completely hopeless.

    Edit: after doing the right google I find that PassMark software's uploaded results gives the Ryzen 7600's on-chip graphics almost the same average score, 2137, that I got on my Ryzen 5600G, 2247.

    • Look Up on 30/08/2023 - 18:08

      Wait for the 8000G series APU's

      AMD already has top tier mobile APU's like the 7840 and Strix Halo that if run at desktop TDP's, would get very close to an RX 6500 XT

      Which means they will gimp the CU's because they still want to sell "cheap" RX 7600 GPU's

      Just like the upcoming Mac M3's, an AMD APU with 128 ~ 192GB DDR5 will destroy NVIDIA's fake VRAM tiers because running huge AI models on cheap local hardware will no longer be an issue

      Time Spy Graphics Score
      3200G + AMD Radeon 8CU (Vega) @ 1250 Mhz + DDR4 = ~800
      7600X + AMD Radeon 2CU (RDNA 2) @ 2200 Mhz + DDR5 = ~1000
      5700G + AMD Radeon 8CU (Vega) @ 2000 Mhz + DDR4 = ~2000

      • GordonD on 30/08/2023 - 18:56

        Time Spy Graphics Score

        Interesting, those numbers.

        I was looking for something I could compare various computers using and ended up with PassMark. Time Spy has a 5700G scoring more than twice a 3200G. PassMark has my 5600G only scoring about 20% higher on graphics than my 3200G, with the 7600 half way between them.

      • netsurfer on 30/08/2023 - 20:30

        Mac Apple M3 with 128 or 192GB RAM won't be cheap. AMD APUs, will AMD and board maker allow allocating that much RAM to the GPU portion? Also, as you pointed out, AMD still want to sell dedicated GPUs.

        I don't think Apple or AMD intend to make AI cheap for consumers. Also, AMD really needs to get AGESA in a better state for future CPU / APU launches (rather than needing multiple releases/updates for every new family of CPUs). It doesn't make sense the latest AGESA update released for AM4 platform 2 months ago still hasn't made it to quite a number of boards and that has useful fixes to boost performance. Some AM4 (X570) and AM5 boards still have long boot time.

  • xyron on 30/08/2023 - 18:36

    Kudos to ASRock for putting decent VRMs on their budgetest of boards.

    • retrofitter on 31/08/2023 - 17:34

      Yes, Any more than 8 phases doesn't increase the efficiency and only increase the chance of failure due to having more parts.

  • BennyHe2018 on 06/09/2023 - 10:13
    +1

    Price dropped to $150.

  • Plano on 07/09/2023 - 13:27
    +1

    Bought this board. Pretty sure it came with a bent pin. Maybe they're selling these cheap because they are refurbished? Gonna have to wait a week for asrock to assess the board

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