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SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 M.2 SSD $178.49 Delivered @ SK Hynix EU via Amazon AU

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SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 M.2 SSD $178.49 Delivered @ SK Hynix EU via Amazon AUAffiliate
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Beyond on 23/08/2023 - 17:07 amazon.com.au (505 clicks)
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High-performing M.2 drive with a very appealing deal.

Product - 2TB
Capacity (User / Raw) - 2000GB / 2048GB
Form Factor - M.2 2280
Interface / Protocol - PCIe 4.0 x4 / NVMe 1.4
Controller - SK hynix Aries
DRAM - SK hynix LPDDR4
Memory - SK hynix 176L TLC
Sequential Read - 7,000 MBps
Sequential Write - 6,500 MBps
Random Read - 1,400,000 IOPS
Random Write - 1,300,000 IOPS
Security - AES-256
Endurance (TBW) - 1200TBW
Part Number - SHPP41-2000GM
Warranty - 5-Year

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-s…
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solidigm-p44-pro-ssd-re…

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  • nepaus on 23/08/2023 - 17:16

    This one vs p31 for laptop. Last time I have to return kc3000 because of running extreme hot

    • Beyond on 23/08/2023 - 17:21

      Is your laptop's PCIe slot Gen 3 or Gen 4?

      It might be worth checking out the temps on the review page.

      They use a different controller, so, I'm unsure of the difference between those thermal properties.

      • nepaus on 23/08/2023 - 17:27

        Factory installed is Gen3 NVMe.

        • Beyond on 23/08/2023 - 17:28
          +1

          I was referring to the slot's capabilities.

          I'd probably pay the extra $20 and go with the Platinum, even if your laptop's slot is Gen 3.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2023 - 18:21

      I recently got kc3000 from JW for 190. Should have waited. For desktop tho.

  • rasme on 23/08/2023 - 17:59

    This or below?
    https://amzn.asia/d/7ggkRsX

    • Beyond on 23/08/2023 - 18:23
      +2

      I'd go with the Hynix, which is a high-end device, while the Silicon Power is a low-end one.

      • rasme on 23/08/2023 - 19:04

        Wonderful… Thank you

    • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2023 - 18:31

      Good for game drive and not important data.

      • rasme on 23/08/2023 - 19:04

        Cheers…

    • netsurfer on 23/08/2023 - 19:40

      UD90 has been swapped to use YMTC 128-layer TLC (XTacking 2.0, not 3.0) NAND based on a recent feedback from an Amazon JP customer.

      This one, if you do get it, consider getting a heatsink. Read Tom's hardware review's Pros and Cons table, first point under Cons section.

  • agentzero on 23/08/2023 - 18:45

    Quite a few reviews on Amazon mentioning this failing as quickly as a couple of months out to around a year. I was eyeing it off as a cheap option but not worth the risk for me.

    • simontadaa on 23/08/2023 - 19:05

      I'd take them with a grain of salt as the other 1 star reviews on amazon are complaining about the NEW ssd not having windows pre installed or no installation screw provided.

      • netsurfer on 23/08/2023 - 19:45

        I wouldn't ignore those comments and since multiple reviewers pointed out it could get hot, I would use it with a heatsink. It is known that when the SSD throttles, it does drop performance by a significant margin.

        It is clear SK Hynix did push this SSD to get good benchmark test results.

    • bjt on 23/08/2023 - 21:31

      Quite a lot of reviews for the Samsung 990 pro said this, obviously due to the driver issue.

      • netsurfer on 23/08/2023 - 22:12

        Driver issue for 990 Pro? You meant firmware issue?

  • Hambooger4 on 23/08/2023 - 19:39

    Might grab this for my ps5. Anyone have any heatsink recommendations?

  • tm32 on 23/08/2023 - 20:18
    +1

    Using with mobo heatsink. Read speeda mid 7000s, and mighty fast.

    Only issue was using the transfer software as this replaced by main ssd, my uefi boot went astray and despite attempting to fix with bcedit its still blue screening with unsigned device drivers every new start. Eventually can get past it and ita fine in a sleep mode.

    Short of a complete reinstall of windows ita a pita. A reinstall and retaining file and settings did not fix it.

  • bjt on 23/08/2023 - 21:27
    +1

    About the same price as Amazon Prime day and the deal immediately afterward.

    I prefer this review of the hardware:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solidigm-p44-pro-ssd-re…

    • netsurfer on 23/08/2023 - 22:03

      A review on a newer offering (P44 Pro) from Solidigm / HK Hynix? It also shows what WD and Samsung did since P41 Platinum and HK Hynix continued to use the same approach.

      Also, P41 Platinum uses the same playbook / approach as majority of Phison E18 SSDs to market higher TBW, instead of making all 2048GB completely available to the user, withhold 48GB as additional spare cells to boost the TBW (so 2000GB SSD). P44 Pro, once again, same thing. Most SSDs are like that nowadays so I guess that's the norm now.

      Or, is this about read the P44 Pro to prevent people from buying P41 Platinum? Wait for P44 Pro's price to drop because it is a better SSD?

      • Beyond on 24/08/2023 - 00:42

        The P44 is essentially the P41.

        "The Solidigm P44 Pro is an SK hynix Platinum P41 by another name.
        While there are some minor firmware tweaks, the overall performance remains about the same with the added benefit that this drive should see better global availability. Designed to compete with the best SSDs, the P44 Pro also lacks an option for a heatsink but is otherwise an excellent choice for most applications."

        • netsurfer on 24/08/2023 - 08:38

          It's not. You cannot get P44 Pro at the same price. If you believe it is roughly the same hardware with different firmware and software. Then, it does feel dodgy Solidigm / SK Hynix is doing this. Can't it release the same firmware for Platinum P41? From the reviews, P44 Pro appears to have a newer revision of the controller (or a better binned controller) or more power is being fed to the controller.

          If they are the same price, then P44 Pro clearly is a better buy.

          • Beyond on 24/08/2023 - 09:18
            +1

            @netsurfer: Dodgy? Not in the slightest. You do know that Hynix makes top-of-the-line hardware and licences it out to other companies like Corsair and G.Skill for them to give it their own labelling.

            I'm not going to bother elaborating on the minuscule changes done to the P44 considering the same type of changes are commonly done to products whilst maintaining the same titling.

        • netsurfer on 24/08/2023 - 09:11

          Also, I recommend owners of either SSD get a heatsink. If you really get the SSD because you really can benefit from the strengths of either model, you would get a heatsink.

          You could use you haven't experienced the thermal being on the high side issue, but it's easier to just spend $10 or less and get a heatsink. If you do decide to push the SSD hard later on, at least you know it won't overheat.

          • Beyond on 24/08/2023 - 09:21
            +1

            @netsurfer: Anyone who's using an NVMe drive in general and has it placed in a device where it isn't distributing the heat properly should always get a heatsink.

            • netsurfer on 24/08/2023 - 09:28

              @Beyond: It's more important for P41 based on user feedback and reviews. I don't get why P41 fans like to come up with excuses.

              It's how P41 performs when thermal throttled that's disappointing. So best to avoid that.

              • Beyond on 24/08/2023 - 10:16
                +1

                @netsurfer: Everything performs poorly when "thermal throttled", that's what throttled means.

                It's not as if this device is worse than the other top-rated M.2 drives based on its heat production or how it's affected via temperatures.

                I don't own a P41 Platinum, only because when it came out and I tried to buy it, the Australian prices were absurdly inflated while the American prices were more realistic. I wasn't able to find a copy in Australia or from overseas that didn't end up being 100s more than it should have been.

                I spent lots of hours watching reviewers test its performance and looked over many MANY in-depth reviews in dedicated sandbox environments.

                I'm not making excuses, this is a good NVMe and for the price, it's certainly worth bringing up. If I could have gotten this drive for twice the listed price here 10 months ago, I would have jumped at the opportunity.

                I currently own a WD SN850x 4TB. The deals on that drive ATM are also very good. I got mine for $600+ a while back and even that was a bargain at the time.

                • netsurfer on 24/08/2023 - 12:03
                  -1

                  @Beyond:

                  It's not as if this device is worse than the other top-rated M.2 drives based on its heat production or how it's affected via temperatures.

                  Reviewers found P41 Platinum struggles to cool down quick enough and when throttled, it drops to a level that's PCIe gen 3 x4. Also, how much load is needed to cause that to happen is another factor to consider.

                  People need to realise SSD makers optimise their SSDs for certain aspects. Simply put, P41 Platinum is designed to push the controller harder. That's fine because let's face it, most of us get flagship PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs based on review charts.

                  Also, SK Hynix has something better coming up. These SSD makers gradually release new products and leapfrog each other.

                  SSDs cheat big time nowadays. It is good to know each SSD's strengths and weaknesses. Also, it is important to realise, since reviewers review SSDs when they are 0% filled in general AND between the big tests, ample time is given for the SSD to recover. Reviewers generally need to show the "best" results in each test.

                  P41 Platinum is best used with a heatsink. Tom's Hardware pointed out its thermal in the first point of list of Cons. P44 Pro's review listed "could use a heatsink". Those points don't appear in EVERY PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs.

                  P41 Platinum is a good SSD, but best to use it with a heatsink. Price isn't that good in today's standard.

                  • Beyond on 24/08/2023 - 13:29
                    +2

                    @netsurfer:

                    These SSD makers gradually release new products and leapfrog each other.

                    Not when it comes to using the same generation of PCIe.

                    SSDs cheat big time nowadays. It is good to know each SSD's strengths and weaknesses. Also, it is important to realise, since reviewers review SSDs when they are 0% filled in general AND between the big tests, ample time is given for the SSD to recover. Reviewers generally need to show the "best" results in each test.

                    Pretty much any tester worth his salt establishes the device's performance when the cache runs out and notes how long with how much data it took to reach that point.

                    P41 Platinum is best used with a heatsink. Tom's Hardware pointed out its thermal in the first point of list of Cons. P44 Pro's review listed "could use a heatsink".

                    They also didn't mention what test system they used for testing a year later.
                    And in the changes of P44 they mention a change to the "power management"
                    Most M.2s can't even push out half the IOPS that this does.

                    Every NVMe should be used with some sort of heatsink and most of those are supplied within the motherboard.

                    I'm not even sure why you're trying to make a debate out of a high-end NVMe drive-throttling from not using a heatsink. I feel like what you're doing is the same as if someone posted on a Ryzen 5950x or 7950x page saying "This throttles when it gets hot! Beware, you must buy a heatsink!" Yeah, obviously. Or the user can get something that's half the speed and case/internal cooling will be sufficient.

                    I'm done responding to this, it's just wasting time.

                  • bjt on 25/08/2023 - 04:22

                    @netsurfer:

                    P44 Pro's review listed "could use a heatsink"

                    It doesn't come with a heat sink, whereas other Gen4 NVMe's come with optional gear sink.

                    You get what you pay for when it comes to online reviews.

                  • FrugalNotStingy on 25/08/2023 - 13:16

                    @netsurfer:

                    Price isn't that good in today's standard.

                    Are you talking about the Samsung 990 Pro 1TB @ $55.92 deal as a basis? I agree that PCIe 4 SSDs prices will fall but a deal similar to the 990 Pro deal may not be repeated in the next 6 months or so. It was supposed to be an Amazon UK exclusive deal if not a pricing error so even if the deal was to be repeated, it won’t be for Amazon AU.

                    I reckon a P41 2TB for under $180 is quite a good price for anyone who don’t want to wait for further price-drop and need one of the top PCIe 4 SSDs in their rig now.

                  • wisb0 on 29/08/2023 - 14:11

                    @netsurfer: would you pick 990 pro or p41 plat for use in a laptop?

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