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I've been tracking the CGM watches for a while (to monitor my glucose while fasting), saw that Apple's Tim Cook announced it a few years back but never came through with the goods, have been seeing these advertised on AliEx, and decided to bite the bullet on this one. Couldn't be happier! Not too sure about the CGM tbh — I did test it against a finger prick one at a clinic, and it wasn't too far off — but the other gauges — pressure, oxygen, beats, temperature… — seem to be accurate enough. I have a few $7 FitPro watches and bands I tried before, and the gauges weren't too shabby either — probably the very same components — but the big difference is the screen. Bright as ever on this one, and proper touch too (whereas the others are unreadable under direct sunlight, and the sensor is a photoelectric cell at the bottom of the screen working as a mechanical button). At this price it's a bargain! I actually paid more for it — some $30-somethin' — and noticed the price drop when going back to buy one for the missus (it does fertility cycles too, presumably using more than just the calendar).

Note: This watch may not provide accurate sensor readings according to reviews on Amazon and should not be relied on as a medical device.

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  • alaric on 07/08/2023 - 09:54

    Hi OP

    How much was not too far off for the blood glucose levels? It looks interesting though. What app does this phone use?

    • kehuehue on 07/08/2023 - 09:56

      Curious to know as well, afaik the tech wasnt/isnt ready yet? Apply might be delaying probably because its not accurate enough?

      • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 10:52
        +1

        Probably. They're not about to do Holmes on this one. But I'm a happy beta tester.

        The watch consistently shows 6–7 nmol/L; the clinic's finger prick one was at 4–5.

        • alaric on 07/08/2023 - 11:50
          +2

          Thanks OP. The variance is too much for my liking. Not sure if it allows you to calibrate in the phone app but assume you can't otherwise you'd have mentioned it.

          Still, it's a start but I'll wait for the technology to improve. In the meantime, I'll stick to dexcom.

          • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:02
            +1

            @alaric: Absolutely do, if you truly need it. Also, use an arm pressure monitor, not a wrist one, if you suffer hypertension. Or use both, and use the less accurate wrist monitor as a proxy for the arm one. Same with the watch.

            Interestingly enough, the phone app doesn't show the glucose data (it shows everything else). This is clearly in beta. Personally, if I were already using a CGM, I would get the phone too, just to test and compare, but mostly bc it's a cheap smartwatch with a very bright screen.

  • WasBargain on 07/08/2023 - 09:55

    "I'm shoppin' like a billionai-TEMU!"

  • deme on 07/08/2023 - 09:59
    +19

    This is garbage, I'm negging because if you need to know your blood glucose levels, then trusting this crap is a death sentence.

    CGM require a sensor in the body.

      • Dalryk on 08/08/2023 - 06:59

        I don't agree with all your downvotes. Your point is perfectly valid.

        This doesn't substitute for a more accurate reading method, but some data is still better than none. I'm T2 diabetic, and this will actually be really helpful even if it just gives a general reading. I don't need to carefully measure insulin doses, I just need to know if my BG is "high" - and it doesn't cost $400/m like a CGM!

        • ripprind on 10/09/2023 - 17:11

          some data is definitely not always better than no data, there are good examples of that in the medical field, and I think this is one of them.
          the problem is, its not going to give you a general/ballpark number. at this stage of the technology its going to give you pretty much a random number.
          It will help you as much as a horoscope.

  • mooreshady on 07/08/2023 - 10:08
    +2

    TEMU has loads of things you can upload to Ozbargain, so in general TEMU should actually be banned posting it, otherwise we all will be flooded!

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:01
      +3
      1. That's stupid logic, which could be applied to Amazon or any other retailer that is frequently posted here.
      2. I didn't post this simply bc it's cheap; I posted it bc I consider it a good deal (i.e. good cost-benefit ratio).
      3. If you're not interested in Temu, you can simply exclude it from your feed on your settings.
  • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 10:13
    +8

    As a diabetic, that glucose monitoring for sure ain't real. If Tim Cook needs multimillions to try and make it happen - on top of the numerous failed startups and technology in this sector, cheap chinese crap ain't gonna pull it. It's probably just outputting a slightly randomised number that looks like it's doing something - non-diabetics have pretty stable blood sugars so it wouldn't be hard to falsify.

    As deme said, the only current technology for constant glucose monitoring requires a sensor in the body measuring interstitial fluid.

    • davidinho on 07/08/2023 - 10:21
      -1

      Shouldn't we try it rather than just judging the book by it's cover?

      • Troymdon on 07/08/2023 - 10:38
        +1

        That's what medical regulators are for.

        • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:02
          -6

          No, that's what your critical thinking is for. If you delegate your health, you get delegated health.

          • teddiebear on 07/08/2023 - 11:23
            +1

            @wisdomtooth: Some people's bodies, even if they keep healthy by exercising regularly, eating good food, not drinking alcohol, not smoking, still get lung cancer, drop dead from heart attacks regardless of age. It sometimes has nothing to do with 'delegating'. Your comments are crap and flawed!
            Where are the medical approval standards for this device to keep accurate results??
            A 'smart watch' for $30 with features like this, why aren't apple and samsung using this tech in their $500+ gadgets??

            • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:33
              -1

              @teddiebear: Bc it's not ready for legal liabilities, obviously. I use pre-release software all the time.

              Some people's bodies, even if they keep healthy by exercising regularly, eating good food, not drinking alcohol, not smoking, still get lung cancer, drop dead from heart attacks regardless of age. It sometimes has nothing to do with 'delegating'.

              I couldn't follow any of that, but I can tell you this: much of the reason people get cancers and drop dead with heartattacks is precisely bc they turned off their critical thinking and delegated their health to govts, medical establishments and their industry sponsors. So they believe in food pyramids, that saturated fat is bad, that eating cholesterol raises cholesterol, that cholesterol causes CVD, that seed oils are healthy, etc, etc (and I'm not even going to mention the most recent mandated health interventions).

              • teddiebear on 07/08/2023 - 11:37
                +2

                @wisdomtooth: Lmao pre-release software for a computer or phone is different to a medical device that claims it can do something it can't.
                There is zero medical approval for this device…. None at all!! From any country, and that's saying something because some countries approve just about anything.
                It's a dodgy 'medical' product, valued cheap enough to put in a gum ball machine.

                • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:42
                  +1

                  @teddiebear: Sure, all that is true. Yet, I'm trying it. Why not? I like being an early adopter. It's not like I'm injecting some experimental gene therapy whose animal trials were suspended bc too many animals were dying.

      • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 12:23
        +3

        Because something promises what you want doesn't mean it should be bought into. We don't send Nigerian princes our savings because it would be wrong to judge a book by its cover.
        If there was any scrape of ability for this to somewhat determine blood sugar it would be groundbreaking. There would be studies, reports, and a litany of reviews. The blood sugar component of this watch is a scam by all accounts and our personal validation isn't required to assess that.

        • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:27
          +1

          Because something promises what you want doesn't mean it should be bought into.

          Precisely. You can buy the watch, and not necessarily buy into its glucose measurements. As I said…

          Not too sure about the CGM tbh

          If you actually read the description, you'll see that's not the reason I recommended this as a good deal.

          If there was any scrape of ability for this to somewhat determine blood sugar it would be groundbreaking. There would be studies, reports, and a litany of reviews.

          But there are. Reports of Apple releasing a watch with noninvasive CGM all over the place in the last few years. Just look for it, and you'll find it. Or are you saying Apple is bluffing, and not really working on this tech?

          The blood sugar component of this watch is a scam by all accounts and our personal validation isn't required to assess that.

          It's clearly not ready for prime time. Nor is it demanding prime dollar. It's experimental; it's in beta test. It's probably from trials by Apple or Garmin. Does that make it into a "scam"? Or can you try stuff for yourself without some govt authorisation?

          • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 12:37
            +1

            @wisdomtooth: It's reasonable to recommend based on the other features, and you havent fully endorsed the CGM. But you have a half endorsement, saying you're not sure but it hasn't been completely wrong. If you want this watch for the other features sure, but I want to outline to everyone that the CGM is not a feature, it's faked and cannot be trusted to any degree, as some people will make decisions on what they believe is semi accurate. I had a diabetic friend who thought this tech was real and he would have a half foot in the grave if he followed through.

            • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:51

              @TheOnlyAphex: If the tech weren't "real," why would Tim Cook say Apple was about to release it? It's real enough for some Apple internal R&D team and marketing dept get the CEO to spearhead the campaign for them. Sure enough, the tech failed some test, which probably wasn't enough for legal to sign off on. Regardless, it's not a "scam," it's just not ready for Apple to bet its brand on. But that doesn't prevent people who like to be early adopters to try it out. It's not an experimental genetic reengineering injection; it's just a watch. Presumably, your diabetic friend already monitors his blood glucose with a CGM or finger prick device; he's not risking anything by wearing a watch as well.

          • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 12:47
            +2

            @wisdomtooth: I've been following noninvasive glucose monitors for a while now, and I think the tech is coming. I believe apple can do it.
            I do not think for a second a $30 temu watch is using apple technology (or any other emerging tech). These cheap watches have been around for years, before we started getting more promising results from tech companies. I can't imagine they somehow cracked the code in the meantime, and made it a legit feature. And there's no way theyre somehow getting prototype tech that actually works on a mass scale, to be sold so cheap.
            It's fine to want this watch for other features, but the CGM aspect is wholly unbelievable.

            • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:55
              -1

              @TheOnlyAphex:

              there's no way theyre somehow getting prototype tech that actually works on a mass scale

              What if Apple — or Garmin, or Samsung… — got it to the point of mass producing it — far enough for the company CEO to get his image on screen to promote it as the company's new breakthrough — and then suspended it at the last minute bc they found the tech wasn't as reliable as they'd require to withstand legal and reputational scrutiny?

              • interlocal on 07/08/2023 - 13:23

                @wisdomtooth: You would believe anything, wouldn't you?

                It's pretty easy to test though, just eat substantial amount of sugar in 5 mins (OGTT is usually done with 75ml of glucose solution) and record values every 5 mins for 2 hours, and show us the data.

              • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 13:33

                @wisdomtooth: That is an incredible amount of wishful thinking and blindness to how companies and R&D operate. Try what @interlocal said and verify yourself if you want.

      • interlocal on 07/08/2023 - 13:16

        Shouldn't we try it rather than just judging the book by it's cover?

        The person trying to sell those should take his time and do at least a review on youtube comparing it with could off-the-shelf BGMs (not even CGMs). That would cost him $100-$200 at most, really peanuts comparing with potential millions in sales.

        No such video? 100% (not even 99.9%) that this is BS.

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:06
      -1

      I'm negging your neg bc you're evaluating this product based on the standards of another product. It'd be like negging a wrist blood pressure monitor bc arm ones are better. Of course they are! But they can't be worn all the time. They simply serve different needs. A diabetic surely needs more accurate measurement, but a pre-diabetic, or someone simply trying to prevent insulin resistance, doesn't.

      • khepri on 07/08/2023 - 11:21
        +1

        The issue is this product markets itself as a blood glucose monitoring device, and therefore is open to comparison to other products that do the same thing. The science behind non invasive BGL monitoring is an emerging field to the extent that consumers should not be told this monitors BGL when the margin of error is so great. This product essentially uses light refraction to estimate a BGL. Obviously not suitable for diabetics, but equally not suitable for anyone wanting an accurate reading of the BGL. This is not effective at preventing insulin resistance. It's equivalent to the apps that take an 'xray' of your hand from your phone.

        • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:26
          -1

          It's equivalent to the apps that take an 'xray' of your hand from your phone.

          Wait, what?! (downloads app)

          The issue is this product markets itself as a blood glucose monitoring device

          Whatever happened to people exercising critical judgement, being sceptical, and deciding for themselves? Is the wiping of critical thinking an "adverse effect," or did that happen before people lined up to inject the kool-aid?

      • TheOnlyAphex on 07/08/2023 - 12:28
        +4

        I'm not judging this in comparison to better technologies, I'm saying it's an outright lie and a scam. It cannot measure blood glucose, it fakes it. If this technology had any merit at all, it would be a massive deal to diabetics. If it could only tell you if your blood sugar was 'probably a normal amount' and 'Jesus Christ get to the hospital' it would be on all diabetics wrists. But it can't, so it isn't.

        • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:37

          The tech is clearly being worked on, for 6 years at least.

          It's clearly not ready for Apple or any other brand to take the liability, but it's also clearly not like fake x-ray phone apps.

        • Dalryk on 08/08/2023 - 07:13
          +1

          There is general merit to the technology. It's under development by multiple different entities, and works to some extent

          The problem IMHO is that it's not currently good enough to meet the medical needs of type-1 diabetics, but that's not to say it doesn't work at all. Even if it's only 50% accurate that's still of some value to some people. Myself, as an example - well controlled type-2 on minimal medication, I don't need hyper-accuracy, I just need to keep a general eye on things.

          • Mokr on 19/08/2023 - 12:17

            @Dalryk: Wait so does it work for you

            • Dalryk on 31/08/2023 - 10:55

              @Mokr: Ha, no!

              They ended up sending me a different model that doesn't even have the CGM function. Sent it back for a refund and haven't heard a thing from them.

              First time I've used Temu, and suspect it will be the last!

  • scorpweb on 07/08/2023 - 10:26
    +4

    temu just seems like a new wish.com i just don't trust it at all

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:08
      +1

      It's a new AliEx; if you don't trust AliEx, don't trust it either, but I'm pretty happy with my purchases there (and see no difference in quality to AliEx — the products are basically the same).

  • Gdsamp on 07/08/2023 - 10:42
    +1

    Temu more like Theranos

    • Gdsamp on 07/08/2023 - 10:42

      OzEWaste or genuine ZKCREATION ?

      • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:09

        Is that actually a renowned brand? I assumed it was an unbranded brand.

        As far as the product, not Ozewaste at all. That was the point of my post.

    • Exprise on 08/08/2023 - 14:42
      +1

      Ozbargain should ban Temu.
      I received 3x counterfeiter board and card games some with missing pieces and discoloured and misaligned prints. Temu refused to refund. They couldn't integrate with base games without being an eye sore/sticking out.

  • YasimKudomi Pape on 07/08/2023 - 10:51

    It virtually replaced most GP. Think about what GP does everyday! Oh, one more they provide prescription. In fact most GP will be out of job as soon as AI can replace them. That day is just around the corner. I expect load of negative vote but that's fact!

    • Gdsamp on 07/08/2023 - 11:10

      As an AI language model, I cannot comment on whether or not AI will replace GPs in the near future.

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:11

      I use AI for home diagnostics; it's not there yet. But, yeah, it will be in no time. GPT4 is pretty impressive.

  • Tamagotchi Breeder on 07/08/2023 - 11:17
    +5

    It would be a huge health risk to rely on this.

    • mickeyjuiceman on 07/08/2023 - 11:38
      +2

      I know it's fashionable to be a panic merchant about how stupid people are (and sometimes with absolute cause), but even here, in the low-IQ zone that is OzBargain, SURELY nobody is going to be using this for genuinely critical heath data monitoring.

      What next, negging anything from Garmin because it's abysmal at sleep tracking despite that being a major selling point?

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 11:39
      +1

      Rely for what?? And under what conditions? If you're a diabetic, sure. If you're not, what's the risk exactly?

      And even if you are (diabetic), presumably you already use other glucose monitors, so what's the risk of using this in parallel, to test and compare?

      • lint on 07/08/2023 - 12:29
        +1

        You will need a larger sample size than "I tested this against a finger prick once and the results from the watch only varied 20-45% from the finger prick reading." Nevermind that 20-45% is a massive margin, you don't know how this performs at higher or lower blood sugar levels, or how consistently it performs within that range.

        EDIT: I just looked it up and the percentage variation you've described can be the difference between normal possibly diabetic blood sugar levels. That's concerning and makes it useless even for those wanting to monitor just in case.

    • Mokr on 19/08/2023 - 12:18

      The whole point is it provides you with a early warning system if you are going hypo.

      It's not meant to replace pin pricks.

  • lint on 07/08/2023 - 12:22
    +1

    I don't know about the other measurements, but I wouldn't trust a $30 device to accurately measure blood glucose when numerous other smartwatch makers aren't confident enough to include such tech in their own devices yet.

    • wisdomtooth on 07/08/2023 - 12:45
      -1

      Yeah, don't. Wearing a watch doesn't require "trust."

      • interlocal on 07/08/2023 - 13:28
        +2

        but even if it works, what's the purpose of those measurements? if it shows 6.5 when real BGL is 4.5, it's totally useless. 2mmol/L error in measurement of a parameter that have 2 mmol/L variance for healthy person makes measurements totally invalid. And if you are not a healthy person, you must use real BGM/CGM if you want to live.

        • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 11:11

          but even if it works, what's the purpose of those measurements?

          As an alert for further measurements? What's the purpose of wearing a wrist blood pressure monitor, when an arm one is more accurate? Same thing.

          • interlocal on 09/08/2023 - 11:07

            @wisdomtooth: so alert would be triggered every measurement, as there is at least +/- 2 mmol/l error? That's some useless alert.
            Blood pressure monitor that shows 160/120 when your real pressure is 120/80 is useless as well.

      • lint on 07/08/2023 - 14:39
        +1

        You seem more dedicated to sticking up for this device than I would care, but the Amazon reviews linked by interlocal confirm my suspicions that this device is junk and the measurements it takes are worthless…

        • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 11:08
          -1

          I read some of the reviews there.

          the measurements it takes are worthless…

          The blood glucose is the suspicious one, but I checked the others against medical equipment at a clinic. Incidentally, the watch's HRM was right, for instance, and the one in the oximeter I had was wrong. So, yeah, don't base your judgement on a single data source (obviously).

        • Exprise on 08/08/2023 - 14:39

          Extremely dedicated!

  • interlocal on 07/08/2023 - 13:35
    +2

    btw amazon listing with exactly the same picture for $39.99, if someone does not like Temu
    https://www.amazon.com/Yeegfey-Smartwatch-Monitoring-Non-inv…
    if you sort reviews by "most recent", it's easy to see that's BS. They even measure BGL when you are not wearing them.

    • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 10:58
      -2

      Just had a look at some of the reviews (thanks for tracking it down). Some are like…

      Do not buy if you need an accurate blood sugar level

      Well, duh. XD

  • Exprise on 07/08/2023 - 19:06

    Avoid! You can't trust temu with board games let alone something for your health.
    Card games sold by temu were misaligned so I'd hate to think of their accuracy for this

    • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 11:01
      -2

      The watch is not manufactured by Temu. As @interlocal just indicated right above you, the very same watch is on sale at Amazon.

      If you want a store to ensure the quality of the products you buy there, rather than perform the due diligence yourself, I'd suggest you do your shopping at David Jones, not at OzBargain.

      • Exprise on 08/08/2023 - 14:36

        Temu has no quality control on the vendors advertising on their platform.

        Also their review system is falsified. Try posting a negative review with images and then asking your friend to log in and see your review. It doesn't get publicised.

        • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 20:39

          Temu has no quality control on the vendors advertising on their platform.

          What's that got to do with this particular watch?? Does Amazon? They sell the very same one.

          • Exprise on 10/08/2023 - 11:00

            @wisdomtooth: Well Amazon also sell the same board and card games I bought. The manufacturer confirmed the ones I bought from Temu were non genuine copies and the editions from Amazon were legit

            • wisdomtooth on 11/08/2023 - 21:52

              @Exprise:

              the ones I bought from Temu were non genuine copies

              Well, I posted this deal bc I actually bought the watch, and am happy with it. So much so that I bought another one for my wife.

          • Exprise on 10/08/2023 - 11:03

            @wisdomtooth: Also there are no reviews for the product you linked.
            Amazon actually posts negative reviews unlike Temu. Try posting a negative review and see if your friend can view it. It works in Amazon but not Temu.

  • Ramrunner on 08/08/2023 - 07:47
    +2

    Temu

    • Exprise on 08/08/2023 - 14:36
      +1

      Well put

      • mickeyjuiceman on 08/08/2023 - 18:45
        +1

        Yeah, like saying "Amazon" or "AliExpress" - so eloquent

        • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 20:37

          Especially when the very same item is sold at Amazon and AliExpress. It's like saying Lindt chocolate is bad because it's sold at Coles 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • pdperth on 08/08/2023 - 08:27
    +2

    If you need a continuous glucose monitor to check your levels for 2 weeks get the $15 trial from Abbott's. Fantastic to check how your body reacts to various foods. Long term it is Subsidized for type 1 but not type 2. It would save the government millions if prediabetic used one of these before starting new medication. Search for "continuous glucose monitor" to find the link.

    • mickeyjuiceman on 08/08/2023 - 09:20
      +1

      The money for business is in "treatment" not prevention, so that's where the lobbying efforts go to.

      • wisdomtooth on 08/08/2023 - 11:04
        -1

        Right on! The medical-industrial complex makes money from the chronically ill, not from disease prevention.

    • interlocal on 09/08/2023 - 11:10

      And dexcom has $30 promo for a month supply as well
      https://amsldiabetesshop.com.au/products/dexcom-g6-trial-off…

      • wisdomtooth on 09/08/2023 - 15:59

        Worth a post? How much is it usually?

        Also, how much does Medicare cover for type I diabetics? Is there any cover for doctor diagnosed type II?

  • Exprise on 08/08/2023 - 14:43
    -1

    Anyone else feel wisdomtooth is just ChatGPT with a bias?

    • wisdomtooth on 11/08/2023 - 21:53
      +1

      Are you implying ChatGPT is not biased?? 😄

      • Exprise on 12/08/2023 - 02:05

        It certainly is, though much more subtle ; )

  • pdperth on 15/08/2023 - 14:52

    The dexcom is over $700 including transmitter, the Abbott's one is usually $120 or so, no need for separate transmitter, 2 weeks continuous. Fully covered for type 1, not covered for type II. I guess it is a bargain but should be mandatory for type 2 starting medication or changing medication. It is a life changer for type I but also invaluable for type Ii in the way you can see your reaction to various foods. May help avoid paying $40 per month for a new glucose drug if the doctor finds it useful.

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