Hi, A recent deal jogged my memory as I was looking at getting a defibrillator for my home office. Background I work from home half the time and always felt good knowing at work knowing there was a defibrillator.
1) can you defibrillator yourself ?
2) in true ozb can I claim it on tax ?
Defibrillator for Home Office
ScroogeMcPhuck on 27/07/2023 - 22:30
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Just use AI
Can I request one of those new AI that has an anime waifu avatar?
That's the CPR version for doing mouth to mouth…
Can I get a ………….
can you defibrillator yourself ?
Only if you want to unalive yourself.
LOL!!
1) no
2) yes1) yes
2) no
can you defibrillator yourself ?
EverybodyclearThat's not how it works.
Surely there are better ways to get out of a Friday afternoon Teams weekly meeting round up?
Get this. Australian made in Riverwood, Sydney, Australian CEO that was on A Current Affair, Australian company. Cheapest defibrillator on the market, but it seems to be single use and lasts 2-3 years.
I suppose technically you could use an AED on yourself. It would be a specific circumstance of heart arrhythmias which you can have without suffering a cardiac arrest. If you were to suffer an arrest, I am not sure if there's an AED that would auto shock without a button press.
AEDs can be used to effectively pace your heart if necessary, thats why they aren't removed once attached.
Best thing is to call 000. If you have a heart condition there are other alternatives to an AED.
Automatic defibs would work and apply a shock without a button if they were turned on and applied. But I haven't heard of this happening. They are designed for first responders to use and are quite simple.
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Sure you could use it on yourself… but it's probably going to hurt at lot, and might interfere with your heart. Very bad idea imho.
Make sure you get it on video if you do though!
Or if you mean to use it while you're actually having a heart attack? then no that's very unlikely.
Hey, I'm a defib rep.
They won't shock you unless you need it.
No Michael Scott moves
https://youtu.be/CdC7m0uB2O8They won't shock you unless you need it.
Wow that's actually cool. Learn something every day!
Sure you could use it on yourself… but it's probably going to hurt at lot, and might interfere with your heart.
Interfering with your heart is kind of the whole point - an AED basically stops your heart, then (hopefully) your body restarts it.
If you were in a condition where an AED would be helpful, I doubt you could use it on yourself.
Prevention is surely better than attempted cure. Many lifestyle factors are in your hands.
From wikipedia: The risk factors for sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) are similar to those of coronary artery disease and include age, cigarette smoking, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, lack of physical exercise, obesity, diabetes, and family history and Cardiomyopathy of cardiac disease
Sounds like you need two things:
1. a first-aid course that covers the use of defibs (tax deductable)
2. a pacemaker so you can be defibrillated all day without you even knowing!…seriously, if you feel good having access to a defib you'll feel AWESOME after a first-aid course!
can you defibrillator yourself
I believe they call that a pacemaker these days.
Hey some, people with known heart conditions have what is called an icd, an integrated defib, which is really cool!
Definitely recommend a first aid course.
Getting a bit of first aid knowledge makes a huge difference in an emergency
defibrillator yourself = pacemaker ?
Go see your Dr
This is definitely one of the more random questions I've ever seen on OzB
Do you have reason to believe you might need to defib yourself?
1) You can, but if you're having a cardiac arrest or an arrhythmia, you might find it a bit difficult to do it. I'd be reaching for a phone and calling an ambulance before trying to get a defib on myself.
As a defib rep, that is literally the worst explanation of defibs. It's funny that they made it a sci fi tool.
Push it now bond or you'll die lol
Defib? put ya finger inside ya computers PSU… spicy dicey kick.
1) can you defibrillator yourself ?
If you are askin this, please don't buy one.
Let nature take its course.
Its not going to give a shock anytime soon. So its just a waste of money not a Darwin prize event
Do a FAC with St Johns or Red Cross, to support a reputable org, and you can get a better price & support with a defib. Focus on the health part, not the $$$ part.
As for tax claim, sure. Put the $$$ you save into a funeral plan.Sooner the better^^^ This….
1) can you defibrillator yourself ?
You been watching 007? haha
I live by myself and admit that I've wondered the same thing before. It seems like a silly idea, but after suffering a heart attack myself (I recognised the symptoms) where I remained conscious and got myself to hospital, I thought - what if i was about to go into cardiac arrest, stuck those pads on (and pressed a dress button for someone to come over) and then collapsed? The newer machines actually assess the heart rhythm to determine whether it's appropriate to deliver a shock.
Getting yourself to the hospital in a suspected cardiac event is not advised unless it is the only option. If you go into cardiac arrest you wouldn't be doing anything cos you are technically dead. The only use case for a defib is for shockable heart rhythyms not ischaemic heart events ( commonly referred to as heart attact) by itself
You can use one of those smart apple and googlesamsung watch to keep a tab on your heart
The only use case for a defib is for shockable heart rhythyms not ischaemic heart events ( commonly referred to as heart attact) by itself
That makes sense. I guess the question is.. are there usually signs of an upcoming cardiac arrest? If so, with the "intelligent" defib, is it possible to stick those patches on when the signs are there?
I actually learnt something very beneficial on this Friday afternoon, thanks!
I assumed heart attack and cardiac arrest were the same but they are completely different and a definite only works on the later.
The more you know!
Yes you can defib yourself, but the chances of it being a VERY conscious VT is next to nil, and the time to do it yourself is probably better used calling an ambulance or help.
All in all I would say the value of buying it for yourSELF is about as much as using $100 bill to start a barby fire
2) I don't think it qualifies as work related expense. I could be wrong
Some excersises and a good diet would be a better investment. Unpopular as it may seem.
Most workplaces provide training to use a defib.
You cant defib yourself its not possible with defib design.
I have personally considered buying one to carry in the boot of the car for family members and if i came across a accident.
I think it would be awesome to have one publicly available at your place for your neighbours too!
Not an expert, but I'm fairly confident (in most cases) a defib on its own won't help; it's supposed to be used in conjunction with CPR because usually the person is not breathing and not conscious.
So I cannot think of a situation where you would be physically able and/or conscious enough to defib yourself, and even if you did, you wouldn't be able to CPR yourself also…
This is what I took away from a First Aid course I did recently anyway 🤷🏻♂️
OPs underlying health is another key consideration here. If it's in the space where needing a defib is a must, prevention strategies should be front and centre.
I wonder how many WFHites will miss the bonus of a workmate calling for help, or giving 1st aid , CPR, or more.
I reckon a lot of smokers have arced up at home now they have that option. God knows what else. And there's probs a shitstorm coming soon about the grey areas around drugs,alcohol,safe workplaces,accidents,compo etc.of ppl opting to make homes a workplace1) Yes, thankfully haven't needed to used it.
1) Yes, accountant noticed it, but all good, as it should be in any workplace.
I would imagine that when you NEED to defib yourself, unfortunately you wouldn't be able to defib yourself.