Intel Core i3-2350M Processor (3M Cache, 2.30GHz)
Windows 7 Home Premium (32 bit)
13.3" W HD (1366 x 768) LED, AntiGlare, Low-light sensitive HD Webcam, Midnight Black (w/o WWAN)
Intel HD Graphics
4 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz SODIMM Memory (1 DIMM)
UltraNav without Fingerprint Reader
320GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
6 cell Li-Ion Battery 62.4 Wh
Bluetooth 3.0 wireless
ThinkPad 2x2 a/b/g/n
No Mobile Broadband support
1 Year Depot/Express Warranty
Lenovo ThinkPad E320 Laptop $399
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Very sure you can, seems you can choose which version you want to upgrade to (regardless of which version you're coming from)
Yep this is the case.
BIG fan of Win8 and cheap laptops. The second you (or more often, a guest) doesnt look where hes sitting, or leaning, and you hear that screen crack in your bag, is the second you're happy it was cheap. lol
I bought this laptop for uni last year - solidly built but very portable. The matte screen is great for doing work, and the keyboard is typical ThinkPad i.e. best laptop keyboard available.
This isn't the best laptop keyboard available, that honour goes to the real Thinkpads (T, X series) before they also got switched to chiclet-style keys like this one.
It's above average, but not nearly as good as the above.
:O I didn't realise that they changed the keyboards until I read your post. Whyyyy??? Now I really hope my laptop doesn't die.
Oh yeah, and the new Lenovo touchpads are so much worse compared with the old ones.
That's what those style keys are called. So have all manufacturers switched to this style? (Hope not - otherwise I won't be buying a laptop, LOL!)
IMO the travel and precision of the Thinkpad chiclet keys are as good as the old keyboards. I've got a T420 at work and although the feel of the chiclet keyboard can take a bit of getting used to (i.e. the gaps between keys), in terms of key travel, feedback and precision, the chiclet keyboard is as good as the old ones.
I agree that the Thinkpad touchpads are pretty average (not as bad as some HP or Asus ones), but you're doing it wrong if you've got a Thinkpad and aren't using the trackpoint nub ;)
Yes - forgot about those gaps! I tried typing on these keyboards in a Good Guys store and hated it. It was as if one mistake (using pencil erasers as keys) wasn't enough - they had to separate the keys as well, to discourage the few remaining buyers they had, LOL.
Would you say that Lenovo's chicklet keyboard is better than the chicklet keyboards of other brands?
I really need to replace my trackpoint because mine is now convex. I actually really like the old touchpads with the matte, non-bumpy surface. Shiny touchpads stick to my fingers and the bumpy Lenovo touchpads make my finger feel tingly :S
I would say the Thinkpad chiclet keypads (Lenovo use different ones for their Ideapad series) are best in class, and better than (or at least equal to, depending on your personal preference) Macbook island keyboards.
The Thinkpad chiclet keys are very solid, have consistent and properly weighted travel and feedback, and are ever so slightly curved inwards so that your fingers fit onto the keys even better.
Yeah just buy a new nub for your trackpoint, pull off the old one, push the new one onto it and it's just like new :D Lenovo touchpads are getting slightly better with each iteration they bring out, but TBH I never use mine that much - trackpoint all the way! :)
I think the main reason why people would dislike the new keyboard is because it's now a 6 row instead of 7.
Very nice laptop for the price. I bought the Core i5 2410m variant last year for $519, and the laptop performs splendidly and also boots very quickly.
The only downsides are the lack of Usb3 and the sub par touch pad.according to the spec page it has USB3
http://shopap.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/edge-series/…
shame it doesn't have an illuminated keyboard
pretty sure it's bluetooth 3.0 not usb 3.0.
That was the only reason i didn't get one when they were on sale 6 months ago.
it only has 3 usb2.0, one of them is always on charging usb port tho
Would this machine be good for ms office applications, email, web browsing, watching video clips via a projector and or screen?
I will probably have a few things open at once for multi tasking purposes but no heavy use like video/photo shopping etc
Would be ideal… I have the HP DM1 equivalent of this, and it connects to out LG TV perfectly over HDMI and is a great weekend away machine….
I edit the odd image or video on it, and it handles it no issues
What does this mean
"No Mobile Broadband support"Thanks
I think it means it doesn't have a PCMCIA slot/or one of those built-in mobile modems.
You should still be able to use a USB plugin modem.
it is 2012 now. an optical drive is not unnecessary at all. my rMBP doesnt have a dvd drive either, so it is "more netbook than notebook" too?
As a netbook,it's a bit expensive.
Just because Apple took away the optical drive (more to do with they want to lock you to the AppStore), it does not necessary mean it is better. For rMBP, wouldn't a blu-ray drive be handy? It would allow you to watch blu-ray easily. Obviously, from Apple's point of view, they prefer you to buy HD movies from iTunes store, rather than the actual blu-ray disc.
just get a USB drive then.
ibm x20 (1st generation of x series) does not has a optical drive.
Neither does my old X61.
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very good for this newbie who likes to watchI like to watch too.
Lol wait.. what are we talking about again? =)
it's not as good as it looks at first glance either.
That's what she said!
You can't compare a netbook with this. I own this laptop for nearly a year now and never had any issues. Run all programs with reasonable speed. Watching DVD with an external USB optical drive works faultlessly. With the portability as a netbook and the power as normal notebook, together with 6 to 8 hours battery hours, I can't find any better option at this price. You can also use this as a media player, connecting to external 1080p TV via the HDMI outlet.
My desktop doesn't have an optical drive atm, I guess I've got a netbook.
Does your desktop go great with your $199 netbook? :P
i would hate it if my high end laptop had a optical drive. i would rather have that extra space as batter or a second hard drive
Everyone always says that a certain bargain came at a perfect time, but this one really did come at the perfect time. The fan in my dad's laptop stopped working last week, and he needs a new laptop. And it's the perfect father's day present, albeit a little late.
You can easily replace most laptop fans, wipe the HD and sell it. Only tricky thing with laptops is getting inside, but you can normally find a guide through Google. Unless we are talking 486 old or it fried itself.
Now now don't ruin the perfect excuse to replace an old laptop with a shiny new one :p
The trackpad is awful on these. Otherwise it is a great laptop.
I bought one on sale last year, got the red i5 version for the same price had to get rid of it because the trackpad was unusable for work and had to resort to the trackpoint.
I now use a Toshiba R830 and am much happier.Agree that the trackpad could be much better by default but at this price, a bit of practice/playing with the touchpad settings and/or a $25 logitech wireless mouse would solve most of the problems.
I find two finger scrolling to work a lot better than one finger scrolling and has made the touchpad more usable.
Of course, Lenovo could have just used the standard trackpad that HP or Acer uses and we would have been much happier.
I find two finger scrolling to work a lot better than one finger scrolling
Ahhh.. you've been reading the Kama Sutra too, I see! ;D
Unforunately,the lenovo laptop cashback from powerbuy does not apply.
cannot add intel wifi module for centrino / widi.
not getting from lenovo au anymore cos they are not going to honor the 1059 x1cPerfect, I want a cheap laptop with a decent keyboard and I was just looking at Thinkpads last night.
Can some one tell me if this laptop is quiet, or is the fan like a jet when warm?
Mine is very quiet. Then again, I don't use mine for gaming.
There are reports stating that the fan is loud, but mileage varies between batches.Na I didnt want one for gaming, well just loading up stupid facebook game lol and that still might make the fan load up.
Does this have HDMI out?
Yes, and E-SATA as well.
Battery's seems good too, around 7hrs. I found this good review too (although it's not the exact model)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E32…It's $383.03 from the student store and I'm pretty sure they don't check if you're a student or not.
Also add AU$10.56 to go from 320GB > 500GB
http://shopap.lenovo.com/au/en/portals/students?menu-id=Solu…
i can't seem to find this model on that link that you've provided!
Click…
"SHOP STUDENT STORE"
On the left "Deals & Offers"
On the right "Outlet clearance laptop deals"
cheers brah
Just keep in mind that the 320gb is 7200rpm, whereas the 500gb is 5400rpm. I stuck with the 320gb.
agreed!
agreed
cheers, bought
are these laptops the same as the school laptops in NSW public schools?
the ones that yr9 get every year?
They get lousy netbooks, not laptops. There's a big difference in performance between those 2.
This one is wwwwwaaaaaaaayyyy faster and more powerful.
Tempted to get one of these but I would have expected them to be a bit better priced. They were going for cheaper back when they were the current model, now that there's a new model out and these are "old" and in the clearance/deals section you'd think they'd be cheaper-ish?
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/52204
Yep as mentioned I bought this a year ago and it was cheaper.
Not really the same laptop mate.
2GB ram - 4GB ram
i3 2310M - i3 2350M
ThinkPad 1x1 b/g/n - ThinkPad 2x2 a/b/g/n
Bluetooth 3.0 wireless - No Wireless WAN supportTrue, good point there.
How bad is the trackpad? Seems like the only real concern about this machine.
Well, yes and no.
A year is fairly long time for a little RAM and CPU upgrade.
For the same price and a little higher specs, I think it's not really a bargain.Surprisingly I ended with the i5 4gb model for the same price, but got rid of it.
I am an ex-owner of an E320 (which was given to my daughter) and another E520 (which was given to my brother) and I just like to warn people on a number of things. I purchased the laptop based on recommendation from whirlpool and also from our great OzBargain community. Unfortunately, I must say that the E series of thinkpad is no way the same with the T series that we always love since the day of IBM. Think about it this way, you pay for a Great Wall vehicle that carries the badge of a Toyota. It is cheap but no way value for money. If taking into account the quality, the price and especially the customer service, you will better spend your money somewhere else (I am currently a happy owner of an HP Folio 13 - also thanks to our OzBargain deals).
Both my e320 and e520 has an absolutely crappy touchpad. You wont even want to touch it. I thought I had the worst touchpad when I had my Asus years ago but these lenovo touchpads are the worst I have ever used. It randomly does not respond to movement every ten minutes or so. The surface of the laptop makes you always wondering whether you are actually moving your fingers at all. The keyboard has a completely different design from the legendary IBM keyboard. It does work but after 6 months the keys starting to become losing and the "~" actually completely fallen out after the first year. I am no way a keyboard abusive person and the ~ is not something I use in every sentence.
The worst thing about Lenovo is the support and service. My E520 order was mistakenly marked as delivered and it took me 10+ phone calls with numerous emails to get them fix it. It finally arrived 2.5 week after the day which it supposed to arrive costing me another $700 to get another one as I need a laptop before flying overseas.
Another thing is I purchased my E320 with the optional Blutooth module. When I switched on the machine for the first time, I could not find it. After several phone calls in which I often have to way between 30 to 45 min, the support guy said that they must forgot to install the optional module in my machine and I need to return it to their factory. As I really need the computer, I chose to accept it anyway. 3 months later, I occasionally mentioned the incident to one of my clients who happens to have Lenovo at work. He laughed and within 1 min managed to get it work. He said there is an option in the Bios that can be used to enable it. Why on earth Lenovo support did not know it is beyond my imagination.
The price is probably good for some but for me I guess for the same price, I can get a much better product from the like of HP or Dell.
Thanks a bunch for that, the touchpad on a notebook is EXTREMELY important to me.
How much was the HP Folio 13?
I'd be curious to know how/where you can get something much better for the same price? (Either 2nd gen i3 for the $380ish or the 2nd gen i5, 4GB ram etc for $470-ish)
Thanks!
I bought the HP Folio 13 $599 from DSE courtesy to this deal: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/76982
I paid roughly $400 for the E320 and probably a bit more for the E520 a year ago.
The HP Folio is thinner, having backlit keyboard and have a nice aluminium cover.
I should have made it clearer, I did not mean to say that for the same price $399 etc you will get something better in configurations. I guess if you pay a bit more, you get a better user experience (especially with the touchpad) and end up having a device with better value for money. I am looking at the machine purely from a customer point of view, where, things like CPU speed or RAM dont make a lot of sense. I simply compare the Lenovo and the HP laptops together with the after sale/support service associated and to me it is not worth getting the E320 at $399.
Righto, thanks for that. I'll wait for a better deal then.
Great post couldn't agree more with the shocking customer support, my only solution for the touch pad unusability - it seriously compromised my work, was to uninstall and use generic windows drivers.
The edge series were not like the thinkpads.Magoo, so how is the difference between using the generic windows drivers and the lenovo ones?
From what people are saying, it's pretty much unusable as is, but with the windows drivers, is it a massive improvement?
Trackpad is a necessity as this will be used for generally portability so I can't/don't want to use a mouse.
Thanks a bunch
I own this model and don't consider the subpar trackpad to be a real issue. Just learn to use the pointing stick, there's a reason the red dot has become a Thinkpad icon - it's much more ergonomic than the trackpad since you don't have to move your fingers off home row, and it's just as fast and accurate once you've adjusted to it.
Price isn't that amazing though, considering that a marginally lower specced E320 sold for a similar price a year ago.
So what exactly is the trackpad issue that everyone is talking about?
Is it the fact that the actual trackpad doesn't click or get stuck sometimes the issue?
Or is is the actual movement of it?
I'm asking because I would never use the trackpad to click, I hate this functionality. I would always use the buttons above the trackpad instead. And I think I saw that the track pad clicks sometimes when you're moving the pointer around, is there a way to make it stuck so you can't click it?
Sorry about all the questions, I just need a new small notepad pretty soon
Quite the opposite, it takes a lot of pressure to make it click so you're unlikely to activate it accidentally. It's not an issue for left clicking since you can just tap but for right clicks it's annoying. Other than that it's pretty small so you might have to lift your hand on occasion and the texture isn't the nicest.
I don't think it's that bad, given that this is probably the cheapest decently specced 13" laptop and there's an excellent pointing stick which you can use instead.
I have experienced none of the issues andrew81 mentioned above.
The trackpad does stick quite badly, I've dragged things across the screen unintentionally and had to navigate very slowly and carefully to select - for live performance this is a disaster. Takes 5 seconds to respond after standby.
Has a strange swirling motion to scroll rather than just swiping the right hand portion.
The clicking portion is fine, as mentioned there are buttons as well.
This is a good laptop otherwise, the lack of usb3 was disappointing, it was quite heavier even without an optical drive - the Toshiba r830 weight 700g less and included one.
The battery life and speed of charging was very good and so is the matte screen.Is this after you uninstalled the drivers and replaced with generic windows drivers?
No this was prior, the trackpad became very standard after removing the drivers and became quite an unresponsive average trackpad with less problems.
Oh OK thanks. That's a shame though, my cheap 3(ish) year old Gateway netbook has a pretty crap trackpad too, doesn't always scroll but it always works as far as the pointer goes.
Found a diff one, $383.03 Same model?(plus others)
http://shopap.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/aueducation266/StdAffinityPortal/en_AU/special-offers.workflow:ShowPromo?cid=au|affil|tl|dgm|dgmdeeplink|1000001&LandingPage=/All/ANZ/AU/Special%20Offers/quickship_deals/
EDIT: Sorry, under education section
Does the ThinkPad Edge E320 have gigabit ethernet?
yes the E320 have gigabit ethernet.
I purchased the student version Total: AU$383.03 Inc.GST. No roadblocks or checks for student id
Hi all,
Before buying any lenovo products, please read what happened here…
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/78530?page=1#comment-101402…
And beware that you might now recieve what you paid for if lenovo decides to jack up the price and cancel your order if you refuse to pay more…LENOVO = CAUTION !!!!!!
Nah, these are the cheapie E320 models being cleared out, not the just-released X1 carbons :P
thanks for warning
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I wonder if you got the $15 upgrade to windows 8, if you could install the 64 bit version