Missed TGG deal the other day and have been keeping an eye out to get OzBargains favourite coffee machine <900.
Stack with your favourite cashback services or gift cards to get this down to ~850
Bing Lee will not ship products to the following areas: South Australia, NSW Regional, Northern Territory, Queensland Far North / Regional / South East, VIC Regional, Western Australia, Tasmania
Any experience with it? I reckon they will DENY you at every turn!
Can't say much for binglee and one of my friend who used to work in jb said extended warranty is usually wasted.
However I bought a hisense TV from jb and it wouldn't turn on right after 3 yrs mark, lucky I got extended warranty and got full refund in gift card. I then bought a power supply board and fixed the TV myself, good as new.
LMAO! How did you fix the TV?
@Naigrabzo: Maybe there was nothing wrong with the tv and it was an external power supply board?
That one trick that JB hates!
@Naigrabzo: It's mostly the power supply board gone busted judging from the symptom, the panel should be fine. so i tore it open, found the board, located its model number, went shopping for a replacement on aliexpress, and then I got lucky after replacing the board.
@Tyler Kwok: Very interesting! Nice work with that. I would love to repair stuff like that. I will keep that tip in mind.
Good to know! How did they assess and confirm the faulty product?
If you took it to a store I'm surprised that they let you walk away with it, in addition to giving a refund.
@realJuliusCaesar: it's a 58 inch, can't be bothered to take it to store… logged claim ticket and they requested invoice, serial id and video showing the symptom and that's all.
I am sorry op as this goes wayyy off topic of the breville db… just saying the extended warranty is useful in my case. The dB is def great machine but doesn't last as long as an $800ish machine should have imo, so buying extended warranty might be good idea although YMMV.
I have not bought extended warranty through Bing Lee but Harveyshitman. The return or repairs are carried out by a third part and it worked flawlessly every single time.
Had this machine myself and it lasted me a good 4 years before some of the seals broke down which caused an internal leak.
when buying from ebay how can i add ext warranty ?
cheers
Not sure but try contacting binglee asking to opt in extended warranty for your recent purchase, maybe that works.
Need to call the bing lee store which shipped your machine within 14 days of purchase to buy the ext warranty. I personally didn't buy the ext warranty.
Absolutely worth it at this price - I can't stress enough just how substantial of an upgrade in both the quality of brews / user experience it was going from an older Rancilio Silvia model to a BDB. I was lucky enough to snag it for <$800 with a sale + ultimate gift card discount.
I can't stress enough just how substantial of an upgrade in both the quality of brews
going from an older Rancilio Silvia model
Then you are doing something wrong with your Rancilio Silvia.
I would love to hear how a 15 year old single boiler machine, without a PID, without programmable pre-infusion, with a far more basic and less user-based design has a better workflow and brew quality. Please enlighten me on my own experiences!
has a better workflow
Did I say anything about workflow?
better brew quality
Grouphead design.
@iamherenow: Is that really the case though?
To be fair, I haven't used a BDB, only the rocket at my parents place, my gcp, and commercial machines at work.
Everything I've read about the BDB suggests that the group head design is excellent, with really good temperature regulation and flow control.
@DeToxin: The grouphead design of the rancilio is what enables it to produce a coffee that is on par with the breville with all it's additional features. Both can produce a good coffee. That was what I was trying to say.
@iamherenow: I understand that the e61 is a nice group head, but you said that they were doing something wrong if they are getting better brews from a BDB, which isn't necessarily true and they have explained why pretty well.
@DeToxin: e61? Not on a Silvia…
I'm suggesting if they are getting a substantial upgrade to brew with the Breville, they are doing something wrong with the Silvia. Because it shouldn't be a substantial upgrade.
@iamherenow: Apologies, I thought the Silvia was an e61 machine.
I understand, I guess it's relative what people consider a substantial upgrade, and in their opinion having the granular detail to customise temp/preinfusion gives them that.
I suppose if you're brewing different beans/roasts regularly then it might
Really? From all the reading I've done it seems that Silvia is the quality and consistency winner. I can see the experience improvement from not waiting for the Silvia boiler to heat for steam but in terms of quality I would dispute the substantial upgrade as a blanket statement.
I can only speak from my own experience, as well as the consensus from those who have made similar upgrades - PID provides better temperature stability, and I can't stress enough how nice it is not to be screwing around with temperature surfing (with no real idea of exactly what temp you're brewing at).
Never heard this take before on the Rancilio. PID and preinfusion are all QoL features. Not necessary to pull a good shot.
Sure, you can pull a good shot with the Silvia - it is just more difficult and more inconsistent. Without the temperature stability, and being (relatively) blind as to what exact temperature you're brewing at, even with temperature surfing you're going to get a lot more fluctuation and potential for crappy brews.
What advantages does it have over a dedica arte, which i can also afford?
DUUUUDE,
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DEDICA is awesome.
I sort of concur…
We use a Silvia (V3, I think) - about 12-13 years old - and it IS good. BUT you do need to get the grind right and be prepared to stuff around with a couple of shots whenever you change coffee bean types. Works fine for the two of us. Well… most of the time.
We DID have a BES920 (until the electronics got fried) and it was so easy to 'dial in' for new beans. Very forgiving. AND great for making multiple coffees as we needed to with a bunch of kids who wouldn't go to school without their morning 'hit'.
My advice: Get this (good, good price for 2023). Get a good grinder (and make friends with it). Consider your warranty needs…
We DID have a BES920 (until the electronics got fried)
Which is the problem with these Brevilles. They don't have the reliability. I've a machine right in front of me over 50 years old. Parts are still readily available, and still functions like new. I'd like to see a breville do that.
There has been a relatively recent upgrade which should address the previous issues of water leaking onto the circuit boards, that being said though at the price point they are selling for they aren't supposed to last 50 years.
Are you able to give an example of a similarly priced and spec'd machine that will go the distance?
similarly priced and spec'd machine that will go the distance?
If you want a machine that lasts you have to pay for it. If I had this amount of money to spend I'd be looking used. $1k should find something nice.
@iamherenow: $1K used, what do you suggest is available on the 2nd hand market for that sort of money? I'm assuming whatever you suggest will have just had a service otherwise my $1K isn't going to go very far.
@shutuptakemymoney101: What do I suggest? Have a look used and be patient. I have a machine that retails brand new for around $3.5k that I paid $700 for.
If it makes you feel better think of it this way - in 10 years your $1k breville will be worth about $0. In 10 years your $1k used quality coffee machine will be worth about $1k.
@iamherenow: I'm confused, can you or can't you suggest 'something nice' second-hand for around $1000? like you alluded to in your post?
I think you need to understand that the Breville DB is a bang for buck disposable appliance and its purchasers for the most part understand this, it's a prosumer device not designed to last 50 years but it has features that only much more expensive machines generally have and its purchasers enjoy this during its more limited lifetime.
How on earth is anyone going to buy a $3.5K machine today that you paid $700 for? Not a very realistic comparison is it?
I don't need to 'feel better' about buying a Breville DB, it's a great piece of kit for the money I spent on it.
@shutuptakemymoney101: used market changes, you need to look. There is no fixed deal for $1k. I'm telling you I bought a machine that retails right now for $3.5k for $700 recently. That's a very realistic comparison.
@iamherenow: lol, no you said for $1K we (the OzBargain collective) should be able to find something nice, you must have been talking about today's market so put up or shut up :-)
What do you recommend second-hand for $1K?
You bought a $3.5K machine for $700 and that's realistic? You serious? ha ha ha
Just recommend me a $1K used machine that will last me 50 years with the same specs as a Breville DB and I'll be happy?
@shutuptakemymoney101: You won't find it, at best you will be looking close to 2k. Unless its so faulty that you have to repair it.
My machine is the e61 equivalent of BDB, and no chance i would ever sell this for less than 2k. even 2k is too cheap.. Its a 4k machine.
the closest you may find is the expobar Minore IV which has to be plumbed. Still a decent machine but brand new is around 2.5k. build quality is something i can't inform you on
@shutuptakemymoney101: Ok here you go - I see a Faema E98 compact s1 for $950 that looks immaculate. 2 minutes work. Was that so hard?
Oh but it's not quite the same spec - no sh1tty silicone tubing (lol), non-standard electronics, plastic everywhere designed to fail… Also no PID or LED display. I do wonder sometimes how 99% of cafe's even make a coffee withoput all these essential features you have on your breville :)
@iamherenow: You can't find anything with the same spec's and features so you trash talk instead. lol
BTW, 99% of the cafe's (around my area anyway) churn out absolute shit, maybe their coffee would be a bit better if they used a Breville.
@shutuptakemymoney101: haha so you ask for an example, and I find it for you. Then you proceed to ignore the example. In case you can't tell - the Faema is a much better buy. Which I think was the whole point of this discussion.
@iamherenow: Does the Faema have a PID ??
A secondhand machine for the same or actually more money with less features is nowhere near the better buy but that doesn't suit your narrative does it?
@shutuptakemymoney101: Non-issue.
You realise you are trying to convince me the breville is better than a machine that costs around $4-5k new? Yeah sure the breville is better with all those features haha
@iamherenow: Yeah, an unserviced secondhand POS with no warranty which more than likely has hidden problems would be a dream purchase lol. No thanks, like many people (how popular are the Breville DB again? Breville has sold the odd one or two haven't they?) I'll stick to the best bang for buck machine on the market.
Hopefully engaging with me has opened your closed mind a little, although to save face I don't expect you to ever admit that.
POS
The breville is the best machine you have ever used. You have no idea what you are even looking at.
no warranty
The thing about htis machine is it's build like a tank.
how popular are the Breville DB again?
Very. Because most are not prepared to spend what it takes to get a good coffee machine, and are too scared to buy second hand because they think it will fall apart or have major issues. The breville is disposable. Even you admit that. There is no quality. It will work while it works, and then die. Then you will look at the service bill once your all important warranty is gone, and say oh it's not worth it, I can get a new one for only a few hundred more. Then you can enjoy your next one until it dies again.
Hopefully engaging with me has opened your closed mind a little
I can't believe how lucky I was to stumble across your amazing comment, let alone receive a response from you.
@iamherenow: Whether you like it or not Breville DB have the runs on the board now, they are a known quantity and they are known for being a great machine with plenty of bang for the buck.
Is the BDB a disposable machine, for most users yes for sure. I got 6 years out of my first BDB but the economics of fixing it after that just didn't stack up so I replaced it with the same again for around $860 and hoping to get at least the same lifespan - Two coffee machines for $1800 over 12 years I'm more than happy with.
I am humbled you consider yourself so lucky to have stumbled upon me, I've enjoyed educating you that not everyone wants to take a punt on an unknown secondhand machine because it once had a higher price tag.
Take care, hope your frugal purchase works out for you - if it doesn't you can always keep an eye out on OZBargain for a good deal on a Breville.
$881 with a Min $2 Eligible Item
It only needs to be $1.
$880 with CR2032 coin battery
$900 with code SEOFYHG for those who don't have the targeted SNSMD4 code.
BES870 can be snagged for $519 as well.
I don't think anything will ever beat this machine as best bang for buck machine. Definitely by far the best entry into the home barista professional space
Oracle overpriced in your opinion?
Cheers. Will read now. Appreciate it..
Good deal
OMFG! This is a great deal. Get yourself some Aldi coffee $15 while at it…..
Really Aldi coffee, is it really good?
It is, there was a Reddit post about ALDI products and revealing who the manufacturers are of their products and it turns out a Melbourne based company does their beans along with high end cafes.
yep, dark roast is my go to. Played with plenty of fancier beans and honestly I struggled to do better than Aldi dark roast. It is personal preference though. I clearly like my roast dark and a lot of the fancier options just aren't very dark (including many that come up on ozb).
Edit - I didn't mean to neg, trying to remove that!
YES. Why don't you do a blinded comparison and see. I did one and couldn't tell the difference between Aldi and $60 coffee from fancy fellow.
Okay sure, will go to Aldi in a few
For value per $ it's unmatched and make sure you get the most recently roasted bag. I prefer the speciality coffee roasters with deals posted here. Usually comes out to $35/kg delivered.
Lol. I jumped on this for $999 from Myer a few months ago because it was "discontinued" and "never coming back." At this point I imagine the apocalypse will be cockroaches drinking coffee from their newly manufactured Breville.
It has been told from big box retailers for the last 5 years it's discontinued. In actual fact, Breville actively manage whether they release stock to these retailers.
So it's a line item in their computers but constantly (and I mean constantly) out of stock.
They want people to buy the Dynamic Duo so they rake in another 500 bucks
Great machine, pair it with the Eureka Mignon Speialita. Often on special and you will posts here.
Don't buy the Breville smart grinder pro… just my opinion but terrible grinder for espresso. Pay the extra couple of hundred and get the Eureka.
Pay the extra couple of hundred and get the Eureka.
That's like ~$200 vs ~$700, so I guess most people are going to risk buying the "terrible" Breville smart grinder pro…
AUD $583 inc shipping right now on espressocoffeeshop with code 3337
(but yes still a difference)
One FIDDY. Not $200.
That's pre-covid price. Doesn't seem to have gone lower than $229 more recently.
I'm quite surprised that Breville haven't made a grinder at the level of the BDB. I get that they probably think many would just say "It still isn't as good as X" and then proceed to buy X; however, I also think that a lot of people would buy it for the "match" factor, and also as part of bundle deals.
For a conical it's not too bad. The mignon is a flat burr with tends to work better for medium to lighter roasts. I bought the atom 65 as I wanted a large burr. But now with the timecore 078s it's the one to beat . Unfortunately kick starter has finished but that will beat the mignon by a good margin.
Unfortunately the $799 is now $1299. https://www.timemore.com.au/products/sculptor-078s-electric-…
I am an early bird backer of the 78S 😉
@gleamnite: Amazing!!! That is one hell of a grinder and am somewhat jealous but my gear is ok for now. When I'm ready for a new grinder I hope they have a v2 or a 100mm version
It's costly to design a new grinder that is noticeably better than SGP, which shares lots of common parts, keeping costs low (and profits high).
Just picked this up for $999 and I’m not even mad. Paired with the Specialita as above & Aldi beans while waiting for fresh bean delivery from Little Marionette, couldn’t be happier.
Im contemplating to upgrade my current setup of Breville Bambino Plus + Breville Smart Grinder Pro.
The bambino plus is about 1.5 yo but lately it seems sometimes it struggles with the temperature.
Sometimes it heats up very slowly while it claims it can be ready in 3 seconds..
Sometimes it feels that its not hot enough (just a feeling though).
Has anyone had this experience before?
Is it simply doing a clean and will resolve it? Havent tried that..
You will lose the convenience factor. With ThermoJet heating, there's no preheating or planning required, hot water is practically instant.
Boilers will require time to heat up, and electricity to keep warm. Primary reason I have not yet "upgraded".
Thinking about Ascaso Steel Duo PID v2, which has dual thermal blocks, but it has other design shortcomings.
DUUUDE! You may need to descale it. Get a proper thermometer to check temps.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Lasergrip-774-Non-contact-Thermome…
ok, will try to descale! thanks for the suggestion dude!
one thing I hate about bambino plus is that when it is time to clean, it just stops working.. it's super annoying when you just finished making coffee and they dont let you to steam the milk until you do the cleaning cycle which takes a while, which means coffee gets cold..
tried different ways to bypass this but to no avail.
if anyone knows how to bypass it, let me know please
The manual says to just press the STEAM button to bypass the cleaning cycle? Although the warning does come back next time the machine is turned on.
Although for whatever reason, my machine hasn't shown the cleaning warning for over a year anyway so I can't remember if that's what I did to get around it. Must try and find that cleaning disc…
Definitely try a simple descaling before upgrading to a different machine!
(Although as an owner of a Dual Boiler I highly recommend it)
Lots of places in Australia have a water supply that will build calcium quite quickly. Definitely Brisbane falls into this category
I don’t think it is an upgrading…
Maybe upgrade the grinder?
you reckon from bambino plus to dual boiler is not an upgrade?
what would you consider an upgrade , one level up from bambino plus?
ideally, with temp control and pressure gauge..
which grinder would you recommend?
A machine that can heat the water in seconds with temp and pressure control, which is an upgrade for me. I guess such thing doesn’t exist so far.
For grinder, maybe have a look at eureka’s?
For anyone curious - I messaged their eBay store over the weekend - they can’t guarantee that these are the newer date code with compression fittings instead of orings.
Interesting, I didn't know. Just looked it up if anyone wanting to know more.
In summary, there are a number of O rings that overtime become leaky. The O rings have been replaced by compression fittings in machines made after week 28 of 2022 (speculated). So, without opening the machine, if you get a machine made in late 2022, or 2023 would be ideal.
https://coffeesnobs.com.au/forum/equipment/brewing-equipment…
I just got mine batch is 2309.
Also just received mine and can confirm batch 2309
I got one from TGG a week ago or so ago it was 2237.
I popped it open and confirmed it was the newer design.
paired with a good zero retention grinder you have a winner!
price say 999.00 how can i get it 880 ?
thanks OP
did this (SNSMD4…) voucher code work ?
Smh
Targeted. Check your eBay summary.
its only give me 60.00 discount
you need to add in another $1 item.
Less than 999 or less is $60 off
1000 or more is $120 off
Ahhhh damn it, waited too long for a deal and sent my trusty EM7000 for a service last week! Else this is a no brainer. Great deal
damm, oos
Yeah. Really wanted this.
how does this compared to Gaggia Manual?
Gaggia feels more solid, possibly easier to mod than Breville, should last a long time.
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Good deal if you ask me. i would also throw in a hundred dollars to purchase extended warranty.