Detects smoke and carbon monoxide. Pretty good price considering free express shipping.
Google Nest Protect Smoke and CO Alarm (Wired) $129 Delivered @ Optus Smart Spaces
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LWashington Cat on 16/06/2023 - 14:11 smartspaces.optus.com.au (2198 clicks)
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"Hey Google, Is there a fire?"
We have now dispatched your Goodyear tyres. No further notifications.
Now playing "We didn't start the fire" by Billy Joel
"I'm sorry, I don't understand" (I get this one a lot)
Seriously, the Google/Nest ecosystem is shocking. We are in too deep to abandon it, but seriously… one day to the next, routines which used to work fine just fail. In a variety of ways. Simple commands it can't execute. Ask it a question in one language, and receive an answer in another.
Thats strange, Ive had my fair share of glitches (and I way more than too deep within the echosystem) but most of the time stuff works pretty reliably.
Most of the time.
These glitches come and go. A routine may include actions like playing music or switching a light on, and one of them may not work for a week, then suddenly start working again.
Could be caused by having smart devices through Chinese servers that have longer latency?
Some days it asks what time to put the alarm, and no matter what you say, it will go "okay, what time?". It's maddening.
Good deal for Tesla owners…
it is freakin good deal, i have got no tesla and saving me 129 bucks
Hey smooth brain. ICE vehicles combust far more frequently than EVs.
Maybe research things before they become core beliefs but that might get in the way of you reading the Australian each day.
ICE vehicles combust far more frequently than EVs.
🤣🤣🤣
It is true. You can google it. BYD's blade battery is also much safer, so in future all EVs will be even safer.
Hey smooth brain.
Does that make you a rough brain?
Pretty sure these won’t be compliant with qld smoke alarm legislation
How so?
someone needs to go to specsavers
They need to be interconnected so if one alarm goes off it sets the other alarms off, not just hard wired to power.
yeah this is native functionality, but its not done by wire so probably not compliant,. Each alarm listens for other alarms and goes off if it hears it.
Nest smoke alarms are natively interconnected. If you have more than one, they wirelessly share their status with each other. If one goes off, they all go off. It also is smart enough to tell you where the fire is (i.e. "There is smoke in the master bedroom") rather than the every alarm in the house just going off and you not knowing which room the fire is in.
Wireless interconnects appear to be QLD compliant based on the QLD Fire website:
The smoke alarms installed after these dates will be required to be powered by either hard-wired 240-volt or 10-year non-removable 10 year battery and be interconnected by either wired or wirelessly to all other required smoke alarms in the dwelling
That said, it only supports the interconnection if they're all Nest smoke alarms. If you're trying to connect a Nest smoke alarm with an existing old-school one, you're not going to have much luck.
@AlanI: Yeah agreed at this. Was surprised to see hear that.
Mine have alerted me fine from one room about another room.
I'd be concerned if the fire is from a short circuit that kills your electricity supply
"Wired to power, with battery back-up"
They have a back up battery.
Good.
They do conform to AS3786:2014
Your property will be compliant with these alarms if installed correctly. Source: prior smoke alarm tech.
Google have an explainer for why they don't do wired interconnect https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9231654?hl=en
You may be right for QLD, but for WA ours just have to be "interconnected", not specified how.
Wrong mate. These are fully compliant with new rules. They are interconnected wirelessly to each other
Highly recommend these for multiple reasons but the best one that differentiates it from other alarms is the ability to silence the alarm. Trying to flap a tea towel at the smoke alarm mid cooking was a pain.
Also getting notifications of the alarm going off while out of home is great but havent used yet.Totally agree, don't forget that free illuminated light feature, I've saved countless stepping on Lego instances which makes it worth the price alone.
This is actually my favourite feature and is used every single day for me - not that the easy silence button isn't useful, but I don't usually try to smoke up the house every time I cook!
Agree! I just put in 3rd detector mostly to use as a nightlight haha
Anyone got these working with Alex?
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Ay, khey, mil gracias por ayudarme con mi tarea
Alexa? Nope. Since Google bought them and hamstrung them from IFTTT they dont integrate with much, even Google Home. I like them because of the motion detecting night light.
Unless someone else can tell me how to integrate them with Alexa?
I've told you, Alex is a lazy shit and will probably be performance-managed out of here before long.
Any deals on battery powered version?
I dunno
I think they've stopped selling the battery version in Australia because of different regulations in different states.
Yeah they have stopped selling them. The model number is S3000BWAU.
You can still find them through the grey market, but they are not on special.
I wanted the Battery powered model as I have concrete ceilings in my apartment and don't feel like chasing.
And to be clear for anyone that might try and find them, they are not compliant in qld due to replaceable battery. Not sure about other states.
Is it difficult to wire these up? Can I just use an electrical plug and use a powerpoint up the ceiling?
Is it difficult to wire these up? Can I just use an electrical plug and use a powerpoint up the ceiling?
No, it isn't a normal powerpoint. It needs to be installed by a licensed electrician.
It's very easy to wire them up. Technically you're not allowed to, but you know.
End of the day it's an extremely easy task
I have 5 of these - wired and battery. Great units - batteries last for 1-2 years at least.
Be mindful though - the first gen have a 7 year sensor life and the 2nd gen have 10 years (from manufacturing date - not installation date).
After that it seems - they cease to work and have to be replaced. See below:
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9249296?hl=en-A…
Be mindful though - the first gen have a 7 year sensor life and the 2nd gen have 10 years (from manufacturing date - not installation date).
I've had mine for 7+ years (2nd gen). I purchased a couple of them as a gift last year online, and got a rude surprise when I saw the fact that it seems to have sat on the retailer's shelf for about three years, so only had about 7 years of good service left. It was more trouble than it was worth to complain about it, but I'd be cautious about buying them online again without being able to see the expiry date printed on the box before I purchased it.
Yep agree. Suddenly the discounted price isn't really a discount
So they just turn off after 7 years and cease to function lol, (profanity) I just bought 6 for my house. They'll be going back if that's the case..
I'd really like a battery one in case my power gets shut off and I need to use a generator for my heater…
These have battery backup.
How much for a sparky to install one of these now days?
You can run it off battery power or wire it yourself, just remember to switch off the power beforehand.
The wired model requires mains power I believe, unlike the battery model which comes with 6x LR91 AA batteries, the wired model only has 3 and is configured differently in relation to firmware updates, polling and the front facing LED.
Hmmm, but the description says you can choose..
@9hundred: Yeah it does, maybe they stopped selling the dedicated wireless model (S3000BWAU) with the intent to only sell this model?
It's inferior to the wireless model, with half the battery capacity 🤔
@fredblogs: No, I mean inferior.
The context I'm referencing is battery use only. There are scenarios where battery smoke alarms are the only viable option. For example, I live in a 1970's apartment with a concrete slab ceiling.
Without wall chasing into the concrete slab (which would require an engineering certificate) or the addition of a false ceiling. I must continue using a battery powered unit.
This wired unit, only has 3x AA batteries in contrast to the battery model which has 6x LR91 AA batteries.
Additionally, despite the description this model is unsuitable for use without a hard-wired connection. Likely due to current regulations the battery model is no longer sold in the Australian market. Regardless it's inferior for those who intend to use it on battery only.
Optus also provides installation service, $240 for 3 devices, i guess if you have 3 of these which needs to be wired up with 240V, its cheaper than any sparky would charge
That's a great deal but I presume it's only to swap over old wired alarms. Highly doubt they are running wiring from scratch for $240.
I wouldn't get out of bed for less than 500$ or into an attic for less than 1000$..
It says in the description that you can choose battery or mains power.
It is highly recommended to utilize both power sources for your smoke detector. In the event of a power outage, the device can continue functioning on battery power. This feature enhances the reliability of the smoke detector and is thus of utmost importance.
Seems to be removed now
Just a warning for those who assume that a Google product will integrate with Google Home - these smoke alarms do not - people have been waiting for more than two years and no sign this will be fixed:
https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Nest-Protect/Nest-Pro…
Looks like these are compliant with VIC requirements
Homes constructed after 1st August 1997 must have smoke alarms connected to 240V mains power and have a backup battery. Homes constructed before 1st August 1997 may have smoke alarms powered by a battery.
CFA and FRV recommend the use of smoke alarms powered by a ten-year lithium battery that last the life of the smoke alarm unit.
Smoke alarms should also be interconnected, so that when any alarm activates, all smoke alarms will sound.
Interconnected smoke alarms can be:
hard-wired (which should be installed by an electrician), or
wireless interconnected smoke alarms powered by a ten-year lithium battery (which can be easily installed without requiring an electrician).
Technically they are not compliant in any state, 240v cabling must be double insulated but these aren't. They just have 2 small wires like you would find on a cheap 12v auto accessory.
They are officially AS/NZ smoke alarm rated and only exposed cable needs to be double insulated as per AS/NZ standards.
Yes exactly and out of the box they are not certified to be used as the product is provided. The electrician needs to make it compliant by making the single insulated wires double insulated.
@LowRange: The insulated wires are not exposed, every power point, light switch, light fitting is exactly the same in your house.
@AuQld: No, all my light switches and powerpoints use double insulated cable. The wiring loom running from the connector with the Ring is single insulated.
@LowRange: You have to strip back the first layer of insulation to do the connection at the light/power point etc. It's run in double insulated but not at the back of the point. You'll run double insulated to the smoke detector, strip back a single layer and then do the connection with the single insulation stripped back. Go look behind your meter panel nothing is all double insulated.
@AuQld: No mate, how it should be in Australia https://i.imgur.com/hSnDZUP.png (just like light switches and gpo's you keep mentioning)
How Nest and the US does it https://i.imgur.com/w0H6c84.png
The Nest detector simply twists off with no tools, so when the homeowner goes to change the batteries they are exposed to single insulated wiring.
The wires terminated behind a meter are in a box, like a flush box behind a powerpoint or light switch. You need tools to access them, and you wont encounter them just changing a battery. The Nest system is garbage.
@LowRange: Have you ever taken off a light cover to change a light bulb on a lightfan, exactly the same.
And it's not exposed so it doesn't need to be double insulated.
And above everything else it would not have gotten it's certification if it didn't comply with the AS/NZ wiring regulations.
thanks op. price beat at OW.
Thanks Op price beat at bunnings $116.10
I called local Bunnings last week and they checked with supplier no stock
Price beat at Officeworks for $122.50.
I got these about 6 of them through out the house they are awesome
If any of the alarms goes off you know it doesn’t matter where you are in the house as it communicates with one another … important if you got a large house with multiple floors
Sure Optus. I'll give you my real date of birth for a smoke alarm.
Thanks OP, price beat at Bunnings, bought 5 at $116.10 each. Going to put one in each bedroom and one in the hallway.
They have a manufacture date of the 38th week of 2022, so should be getting near on 9 year use from each.
Now just to find a cheap (trustworthy) sparky to install them!
I hope the online ones aren't 5 years old or something stupid like that. I should have known something was up when the link to PayPal wasn't opening, paid with a credit card if it's anything over a year or two they'll be going back.
Are these compliant with the QLD smoke alarms laws? Are these good for investment properties? Specifically how does it work if the Smoke Alarms are not on the Wi-Fi network since the tenants use their own internet.
Yes, they still work but they won't be sending notifications without WiFi. For a rental just use the cheap wired interconnected ones. Think they're 250$ for 8 on eBay
Mine arrived today. Barcode shows AC5322 I.e. the 53rd week of 2022. Opened them up and indeed they are Jan 5th 2023
Mine also arrived today. 3 units, AC4922, manufactured 5 Dec 2022.
Awesome 👍, hopefully mine will be the same. Optus isn't exactly the most trustworthy lol..
I got the same 49th week of 22. I bought one from Amazon a week earlier and it wasnt far behind at 42 week of 22.
Yea I bought six all the same 4922 which makes things a lot easier. Given the clipsal ones are the same price without any additional features these are a no brainer.
They are an absolute pain to install, make sure you get them all set up and connected to the WiFi before connecting them to power having said that the app was buggy as hell and I think they drop out the WiFi if it's not connected to power so get one done and connected to power closest to the router as you can and set the rest up unconnected to power. Took me an hour and multiple attempts of removing, resetting etc to get them all up and running.
Probably put (wired) in the title, as there's a battery operated version too