PC Build 3.5-4k Intel 4080 - Budget $4k

mgexiled on 16/06/2023 - 14:02
Last edited 16/06/2023 - 15:45 by 1 other user

Hey guys, looking for a sense-check on this build, it's been a while since I got a new PC rig.

I returned a Macbook Pro as the screen died and got a refund - funds will be dedicated to a new PC build. Budget between 3.5k and 4k. Most prebuilds around this price-range have at most an RTX 4070ti in them. I'm looking at getting a build with a 4080 and 12th gen Intel. I'm choosing Intel over AMD because although I do game, I also want to do a lot of rendering, using adobe suite, video and audio production etc…

After navigating many of the prebuilds from PC Case Gear, Scorptec and the like, I went to PC PartPicker to see if I could build the rig I want for around that $4k mark. This is what I've come up with:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($649.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($135.00 @ MSY Technology)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($349.00 @ MSY Technology)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($209.00 @ BPC Technology)
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($126.00 @ MSY Technology)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($155.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($135.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Total: $3706.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-16 13:57 AEST+1000

There were a couple of compatibility messages:

Note: The be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard.
Disclaimer: Some physical dimension constraints are currently not checked, such as CPU coolers and RAM clearance.

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Comments

  • Sage222 on 16/06/2023 - 14:36
    +6

    nice looking rig though at that money i'd be wanting DDR5. Are you sure you need the i9? an i7 13th gen or Ryzen equivalent may net pretty similiar results with cost savings enough to get the DDR5.
    that i9 is 10nm.. that is pretty old tech.

    • freefall101 on 16/06/2023 - 15:22
      +4

      Userbenchmark isn't generally that good of a comparison. The single core speeds are similar between the 7700x and 12900k but multiple core workloads (particularly rendering) the Intel chip is faster. For rendering it's hard to beat a lot of fast cores like Intel has.

      That said, for that price I'd be buying the 7900X. Tends to do really well in a lot of rendering benchmarks, better than the 12900K - https://www.cgdirector.com/best-cpu-for-rendering/

      • DiscountForThee on 16/06/2023 - 15:44
        +5

        Userbenchmark isn't generally that good of a comparison

        Userbenchmark isn't good, at all, flat out. Hilariously biased, and a complete meme in any PC circles.

    • SydStrand on 16/06/2023 - 16:46

      Userbenchmark ahahah.

  • DiscountForThee on 16/06/2023 - 15:14
    +1

    I've also seen the 4080 as low as $1500 on this site so consider waiting for a sale on that as well

  • 7ekn00 on 16/06/2023 - 15:15
    +3

    13th Gen Intel with DDR5 will run RINGS around 12th Gen with DDR4 for productivity work loads :/

    Seems like a complete waste of money not going 13th Gen …

  • mgexiled on 16/06/2023 - 15:29

    Thanks for the feedback so far guys, definitely going to change this build up to 13th Gen.

  • mgexiled on 16/06/2023 - 15:54

    Updated based on feedback!

    PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/L6nWVw

    CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($628.95 @ Mwave Australia)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($135.00 @ MSY Technology)
    Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($415.80 @ Amazon Australia)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($155.00 @ Amazon Australia)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($155.00 @ Amazon Australia)
    Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($259.00 @ Centre Com)
    Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($155.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Total: $3851.75
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-16 15:54 AEST+1000

    • frondono on 16/06/2023 - 16:15
      +1

      You can save some money on the cpu and probably some of the other parts if you have ebay plus. Might be worth looking into if some higher clocked ram will make any difference. I think intel can go over 7000mhz pretty easy.

      https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175430591331?epid=22057280930&ha…

      • TeddyBear on 16/06/2023 - 19:12
        +1

        Stability varies by motherboard and CPU past 6800MT/s on 13th gen. Dual rank memory like OP has configured likely won't even train at those high speeds. If you're looking for a high speed kit for 4x16GB I'd ideally look into 6600 - 6400MT/s kits. I don't believe there is much of a premium for 2x32gb either and you'll likely have better compatibility with those.

    • frondono on 16/06/2023 - 16:24
      +2

      another good site is https://www.staticice.com.au

  • TeddyBear on 16/06/2023 - 19:24

    @mgexiled Have you considered 96GB DDR5 kits?

    Edit: Be sure to update the firmware on your Samsung NVMe drive, they have accelerated wear on the older firmware. Also, the Kingston KC3000 can be had cheaper and is just as performant.

  • garetz on 16/06/2023 - 20:50

    Why would you go for a last gen cpu when the next gen is just around the corner within 2-3 months. I would wait for the 14900k and get ddr5.

    • mgexiled on 16/06/2023 - 22:48
      +2

      As the build is for a small business I'm trying to make the purchase before the new financial year, and the sooner i get this rig the sooner i can work more efficiently. I will go DDR 5 though.

  • conza on 17/06/2023 - 12:54

    Fair enough on Intel vs AMD, you've checked benchmarks I assume? I think the 7950X would do a good job but maybe it's worse / value.

    On the updated build, glad you've moved to DDR5 from DDR4.

    Windows 10 keys are available for around 40 bucks online, plenty of people have used them multiple times, that'll save you $100

    Any use cases specifically from Nvidia, such as Cuda etc? Otherwise the additional VRAM and slight savings of the 7900XTX may be more beneficial, it will use more power though usually, eg 1459 bucks, that's a fair saving.

    • mgexiled on 17/06/2023 - 13:12
      +1

      AMD seems to be the clear winner in most consumer use cases especially for gaming. All the benchmarking when it comes to content creation, adobe suite like after effects and premiere pro, and 3d applications like Blender, Nvidia still seems to be the clear choice (for example https://youtu.be/rE4uqB5FI5Y), and for all my previous builds the one use case of content creation has always been bottlenecked, so id like the opportunity to explore more advanced content creation, 3d modelling etc… as well as game on the side.

  • LurkingLurker on 17/06/2023 - 13:17
    +3

    Here's my 2cents, the only thing I've kept the same is the case. The whole build revolves around the ability of afford better RAM and the RTX4090.

    PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cJPm4s

    CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($449.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.90 @ Amazon Australia)
    Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($284.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
    Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($404.96 @ Amazon Australia)
    Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.00 Ozbargain)
    Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2699.00 @ Amazon Australia)
    Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($155.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Power Supply: FSP Group Hydro G PRO ATX3.0(PCIe5.0) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.00 Ozbargain)

    Total: $4374.86

    Most applications, espeically if you are running plugins, are still very single/duo thread heavy, the i5 has 14 cores, 20 threads and 5.1 GHz turbo, not as powerful, but the difference is minimal vs cost savings. Peerless assassin is half the price and is one of the best bang for buck cooler out there.

    There are reports of people having stability issues running 4 sticks of DDR5, this might be fine for gaming, but defo not for work. I believe the Z5 2x32GB kit is SK Hynix A die, essentially best of the best. You can op for a 5600 MHz kit for about 50 bucks cheaper but RAM speed can make quite a bit of difference.

    B760 motherboard because you don't need the overlocking capabilities in a stable machine and it is much cheaper.

    I was debating on whether to change the NVME SSD but for budget sake I've cut it down to 1TB, not really worried since the motherboard has 3 m.2 slots for plenty of upgradability later. You can also get the 1TB for around 90 bucks from the OzBargain deal.

    Went with a 4090 instead of a 4080 because you never know when you might need the extra vram.

    Power supply was another OzBargain deal, PSU specs looks good and it is a potential A tier PSU as well. 4090 power draw is actually quite tame so I wouldn't be too concerned with running into power limit issues.

    Overall appox 400 bucks out of budget if you include shipping, but you can cut it down by picking a cheaper case, buying SSD from the OzBargain deal and finding some cheaper prices for the mobo.

    • mgexiled on 17/06/2023 - 13:35
      +1

      Oh man I've just been playing around with another build after getting feedback and your build totally destroys what i put together

      https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xFLCfv

      I'm happy to extend the budget by a few hundred, never thought I'd be able to fit a 4090 in to this build - thanks so much for putting that build together, i'm going to seriously consider it as my final build!

      • LurkingLurker on 17/06/2023 - 19:42

        No worries. The Lian Li cases like the one you've listed have gotten some really great reviews, but I would personally choose the O11 air mini unless you need the space and want to look at the pretty front tempered glass panel. It is cheaper, smaller and comes with case fans. Have fun building!

  • Gekov on 17/06/2023 - 14:30

    Check out this site if you value blissful silence ….

    They will either supply a custom ready-built SILENT PC or give you hints on which components to use for quiet PC builds.

    https://quietpc.com.au/systems

    I've recently used this site for hints in building my current TOTALLY SILENT PC.

    It put me onto the case I'm using, which is ideal for passive cooling.
    A Meshify compact case with all fans and any panels obstructing free air flow removed.

    My silent PC build is basically an Intel core-i7 13700 CPU with 16Gb of DDR5 RAM on an ASUS Prime Z790-P motherboard, and a 500GB NVMe SSD.

    … and a NOCTUA NH-P1 PASSIVE CPU COOLER.

    Although I can run it totally fanless, I decided to add a very slow, rotating, VIRTUALLY SILENT fan on top of the Noctua.

    I now have a powerful but SILENT PC.

    BLISS!

    • Gekov on 17/06/2023 - 17:59

      If anyone's interested measured MAXIMUM core temperatures are mostly below 45ºC, with the typical values being less than 36ºC.

      But that's with the PC not doing much aside from web browsing.

      That would be typical for me since I mostly do share trading, web browsing, email, spreadsheets, and word processing.

      • SydStrand on 18/06/2023 - 07:06

        OP is quite obviously looking for an all-rounder build including gaming, hence the 4080 and you're basically suggesting a NUC lol.

        • Gekov on 19/06/2023 - 17:51

          "you're basically suggesting a NUC"

          HUH?

          My build is far from being an NUC.
          It's a POWERFUL FULLY FLEDGED ATX BASED PC which could easily be used for gaming if desired.

          I have no interest in gaming.
          Is that why you labelled my PC build as an NUC?

          Or maybe you classified my PC build as an NUC coz it doesn't have
          a host of noisy fans to annoy me?
          Some ignorant people might think a quiet PC and a powerful PC cannot co-exist?

          FYI:
          This definition of an NUC absolutely disqualifies my PC build as an NUC!

          *** What is the difference between a CPU and a NUC processor? ***

          Unlike CPUs intended for a more traditional ATX-based build, NUC processors are hard-soldered to the mainboard, and thus aren't intended to be installed, uninstalled, nor swapped out by the end-user.

          Maybe you should have determined what an NUC is before blurting out?

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