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Back in stock again @Core. Grab it while it lasts!

Key features

• 1.5GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A72 CPU
• VideoCore VI graphics
• Hardware 4kp@60Hz HEVC decoding
• True Gigabit Ethernet
• 2.4 GHz and 5.0 GHz IEEE 802.11ac wireless, Bluetooth 5.0, BLE
• 2 × USB 3.0 and 2 × USB 2.0 ports
• 2 × Micro-HDMI ports (1 × 4kp@60Hz or 2 × 4kp@30Hz)
• USB-C for input power, supporting 5.1V 3A operation
• 3 LPDDR4 RAM options available: 1GB, 2GB, 4GB (this listing) and 8GB
• Supports the SDXC standard, allowing you to use microSD cards up to 2TB

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    • athk on 05/06/2023 - 11:04
      +3

      Depends what you're hosting on it. Plex yes and no, RPI doesn't transcode well, that Lenovo should be ok to a degree.

      Again depends what you want to do. I've got an one of these https://www.bee-link.com/u59-pro-n5105 that I use Proxmox on, Plex, Sonarr, Radarr, Prowlarr in LXC and Windows for various shitty programs that aren't on Linux… It does the job.

      • xmagic on 05/06/2023 - 11:08
        +2

        Or wait a bit more for the latest Alder Lake-N series (N300 series) - more cores, better integrated graphics and should be in the same price range.

        Have to say those Atom/Celeron-N things came a long way over the years for low-power embeddeds.

        • athk on 05/06/2023 - 12:28

          Ah they sure did, I was just using it as a comparison considering that the RPI doesn't transcode well.

    • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 11:58

      If that's a serious question, a Pi 4 is not a good home server unless it's just sharing out a hard drive. Which half the home routers on the market will do quite happily.

      It has barely enough CPU capacity to offer any flexibility over fairly basic tasks. I wouldn't even bother hooking one up to a monitor or TV, if that's what you expect to do with it- there are YouTube demos showing that it barely gets by running web browser sessions.

      I've tried using mine just as a headless storage target- just using it wirelessly to transfer large amounts of data caused all sorts of instability. It's fine with ethernet though.

      • johnwinkle on 05/06/2023 - 12:01

        its a serious question because I bought one of those refurb pcs and am using as a home server which has been handling anything I throw at it for the same price as this rasp pi, with more display ports, usb ports etc.. So im wondering if im missing why the rasp pi is the same price

        • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 12:03
          +2

          The Pi is the same price because it's been in incredible short supply for over a year, and demand remains high from a lot of situations where it is really useful. e.g. ages back we deployed a bunch of these at remote sites to run monitoring agents, something that we would not do with a refurb PC.

          It's just a different tool for a different set of use cases, just like how a smartphone can do computing tasks, doesn't make it totally interchangable with a laptop yet they cost about the same.

          Keep using the refurb PC- they are a great flexible choice. I have an equal number of the same as for my SBCs. They just do totally different jobs and the latter are on 24x7.

        • whats up skip on 05/06/2023 - 13:49

          Your not. What you have done is the best option for your application. It has only been recent times that the very small second hand PCs have come down to a similar price range.

        • Jklaro on 05/06/2023 - 14:24

          Isnt power consumption and size a factor?

          • whats up skip on 05/06/2023 - 16:26

            @Jklaro: There are many mini PCs now that take up a similar amount of space if you need storage. Power consumption is higher, but not dramatically so, particularly if that mini PC is replacing three RPi.

      • athk on 05/06/2023 - 12:30
        -1

        This is a shit statement. Pi is fine for a lot of things. Whatever you were doing, it sounds like you were doing it wrong.

        Agree on the Wifi though.

      • r0nmac on 06/06/2023 - 14:31

        Not sure who negged. Your statement is totally valid.

    • Chandler on 05/06/2023 - 12:44
      +4

      Depends on your use case, but if it was me I'd go the Lenovo:

      • It's x86. Still a lot of applications not readily available on ARM yet, which is what the Pi is
      • Intel Quick Sync. Can help a lot if you're wanting to do transcoding
      • Ease of extension: already in a case with ports/headers etc for various connections. Also many of these mini PCs can have NVMe drives installed - some even multiple

      Have a look at ServeTheHome's TinyMiniMicro series on using these boxes for home servers/clusters.

    • s12321 on 06/06/2023 - 18:39

      router,pi hole via micro sd (not sure if micro sd will die fast in pi hole), home media server/home assistant via usb 3 hdd/ssd.

  • PainToad on 05/06/2023 - 11:21
    +12

    I don’t see any value in these anymore. An old Optiplex is much better value.

    • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 11:29
      +5

      There's always someone in these threads who has to say this.

      Yes, yes, maybe not for you, but clearly they are still useful for many other people.

      I've got NUCs, USFF Lenovos, fanless industrial PCs, and still have use cases where these "better value" machines are overkill and too bulky or are reliant on a breakable fan sucking dust into a small case. As a couple of examples, running Octopi or Klipper, running ultra low power storage targets or environmental monitoring.

      Even if you are put off by current pricing (which I am) then there are half a dozen other SBC options out there that can be substitutes.

      • 0 0 0 on 05/06/2023 - 11:37
        +1

        Small form factor or ESP32 or equivalent for other low power applications. Pi is over priced. Was amazed I could sell my Pi Zero W at about 100% profit despite being a few years old.

        • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 11:41
          +3

          I totally agree that the Pi has been overpriced for years. The current prices are bonkers. It's interesting looking at rpilocator every couple months to see that the supply situation is still dire, but reports are this should sort itself out in the next couple months.

          I've been using Raxda boards recently. Cheaper and they work fine.

          But there's always at least one clever person who has to chime in and say that an USFF PC is 'better'. Well, so is a 10 year old full sized desktop in many metrics, or a 10 year old decommissioned HP server. But they are oranges to apples.

          • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 11:45
            +1

            @rumblytangara: the problem with the pi, is only the company are able to make it
            so it makes more supplies harder and they totally control the price.

            if the business model was like GPU or motherboards
            then more board partners can produce it
            which increases competition, price and supply.

            • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 11:55
              +1

              @pinkybrain: iirc the Pi price is still set to something like ~USD50, and that it's the retailers who are selling as >USD90 bundles of often useless parts.

              It's not like the Pi is really that unique. There are drop in replacements (same form factor, same GPIO pinouts), the only real difference seems that you go with a non-Raspian image for the OS.

            • Mostly Fanless on 05/06/2023 - 12:03

              @pinkybrain: Hi, I'm not sure the analogy holds water, RPi don't make the chips, they are actually the board maker.

              • Chandler on 05/06/2023 - 12:57
                +1

                @Mostly Fanless: It does but it doesn't.

                Analogy does hold water in that if the RPi foundation allowed other manufacturer's to make the boards then supply could be increased.

                But that's like saying GPU prices would drop if Nvidia gave their designs to AMD and they were both manufacturing those GPUs.

                Well of course they would, but why the hell would Nvidia give away their designs? One thing that people sometimes forget that while the RPi foundation is setup as a non-profit, the Raspberry Pi is not an open-hardware product - their designs are closed source. Hell even Framework (from memory) hasn't open sourced 100% of their designs (and again from memory they have valid reasons for that).

                This also completely ignores that to increase supply you need to increase manufacturing capacity - it's not like there's some manufacturer twiddling their thumbs waiting for an order from RPi or Nvidia. Part of the reason for the "chip shortage" were production slowdowns at the few places that can manufacture these sorts of products due to COVID, and with increased demand due to WFH. Supply chains are still catching up.

              • bleugh on 06/06/2023 - 07:11

                @Mostly Fanless: Broadcom make the chips in the Pi,
                RPI do make the chip in the Pico

          • s12321 on 06/06/2023 - 18:44

            @rumblytangara: the market vaule will be complete with 1.5ghz quad core, no threads, 4GB, it's like a cheap 64 bit intel celeron cpu. however, i think the pico pi is overpriced.

            • rumblytangara on 06/06/2023 - 19:26
              +1

              @s12321: Well, when you can throw a 1.5GHz quad core Celeron into a compact 3D printer chassis (which is the last time I needed to scrounge up a Pi 3), especially without the requirement for a standalone power brick, let me know.

    • mskeggs on 05/06/2023 - 11:33

      Agree, though if it is a low processing task the power savings on Pi Zero make those a good choice.
      I guess there are so many hobbyist Pi users that it makes sense for them to offer the higher powered versions for applications that have been built on Pi but could use a bit more performance, rather than re-building it on an Intel system.

      • FelixNZ on 05/06/2023 - 12:46
        +2

        Been waiting on zero2w stock for about a year now :/

    • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 11:41
      +3

      depends the use case..

      some people like these because

      -use less power than optiplex (can be left on 24/7)
      -silent
      -no need for fan, optiplex has cpu fan running whenever it is on,
      so another reason don't want optiplex on 24/7 which wears out the fan (more noise and need replacement
      and fan on = more power usage.
      -very small footprint can be hidden in cabinet or behind TV or where ever.

      The main issue with the pi4 is the price and low stock
      it is not as good as previous pi3b when it was selling for approx $50
      and there was plenty of stock which helps with more deals

      I got optiplex but don't leave it running 24/7.
      My pi is running on 24/7.

    • [Deactivated] on 05/06/2023 - 11:46
      +3

      Ah yes, old optiplexs will be mega useful for what you need something the size of a raspberry pi…

    • lgacb08 on 05/06/2023 - 11:49
      +3

      If you don't use the full processing power of the Dell, the cost difference in electricity will pay for this unit in a year time easily.

    • Piranha2004 on 05/06/2023 - 14:37
      +1

      I cant fit an optiflex neatly behind my tv though. An optiflex doesnt work with hdmi cec either.

    • nixes on 05/06/2023 - 14:46

      Agree! Especially if you use one of those office tiny pc's. I got a Lenovo M710Q for around $110 aud and it includes a 256gb ssd and 8gb of memory.

      Mine only pulls 3.6 watts at idle. This is close if not lower then the rpi 4's power usage actually.

      • skillet on 06/06/2023 - 10:57

        Optiplex i5-10500T MFF less than 5 watts when idle with no display attached.

        HP T620 fanless - 5 watts idle.

        HP T630 fanless - under 6watts iirc.

    • skillet on 06/06/2023 - 10:49

      So ya all forgot what these SBC has a row of GPIO that makes them unique from them x86 tiny pc counterparts???

      I have mff, thin clients, SBC. Use whatever suits your project don't need to rank them, waste of time. Of course running cost and unit cost is no 1 criteria.

  • lilchonk on 05/06/2023 - 11:26

    Can I attach this to a little LCD screen so I can monitor my temps? I would love to learn to use this thing for a hobby as well.

    • windix on 05/06/2023 - 11:34
      +1

      indeed! That's my use case at moment: https://i.imgur.com/MsbvOBV.jpeg

      • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:16
        +1

        how you set that up?
        where did you put that screen / monitor ?

        also isn't it expensive/waste of electricity to leave that on all the time
        just to show the weather etc?

        Can quickly view that info on your phone or pc or smart display.

        • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 14:27

          I just do something similar with just an old Android tablet- gives weather and network-synchronised time so it replaces a wall clock.

          • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:30
            +1

            @rumblytangara: do you leave it plug in all the time?
            will the battery have issues being plug in all the time?

            and how long have you set this up?
            can you post some pics?

            that is an actually interesting new idea for replacing a wall clock.

            • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 14:42

              @pinkybrain: I just tried to plug my killowatt meter in to measure idle load of the USFF PC, but the bloody meter is broken, so I can't confirm, sorry.

              Regarding the Android tablet- yeah it's plugged in to USB power all the time, which probably isn't idea for the battery. But the tablet is obsolete and would have no other use, so at least it's extending the useful life of the product. I ran a previous tablet for ~3 years, a Barnes and Noble Nook(?) which was maybe USD50. Eventually the battery swelled up so I got rid of it.

              https://imgur.com/a/Kjv8Ngk

              It just tells time/date current weather. I prefer to keep it really simple, so no fancy overlays or weather forecasts or even picturesque backgrounds. It's not pretty, but it works for me.

    • beefsandwich on 05/06/2023 - 11:36
      +5

      You might be better off with an arduino or clone. Cheaper and smaller, easy to hook up screens and temp sensors. I bought one recently to learn with and it's been pretty interesting.

      Edit: Big starter kit for half the price of a pi: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0772GRGBG/

    • Name on 05/06/2023 - 11:42
      +5

      If you're wanting to play around with it as a hobby and you're only doing light stuff like monitoring temperatures/scrapping stuff from the internet you could use something like a esp8266 chip. You can get the 'development board' option which has some pin outs and a usb adapter on it. The dev board option runs around $5, once you get the hang of it you can skip the dev board and go straight to the esp8266 chip which is around 30 cents.

      I've wired one up to a multi-coloured led which reads my solar generation / power consumption over wifi (i have a iotawatt connected to my meterbox) and changes colour accordingly.

      I also wired one up to a little 128x32 OLED display, my kid uses one to log ambient temperature of his ant farm and when you push a button it will display the temperature on the OLED.

      • skillet on 06/06/2023 - 11:12

        The availability and low cost of ESP chipset means your project is production ready which makes it a reliable resource for most developers.

    • Mostly Fanless on 05/06/2023 - 12:08

      If you go to the linked coreelectronics site they have tutorials on this kind of thing.

    • Chandler on 05/06/2023 - 13:06
      +1

      You could, it'd be overkill for that specific use case, but would be handy to learn and do more with.

      As the other comments have already touched on, for your specific use case you could go down the ESP (ESP8266 / ESP32 / NodeMCU) path, and it would also open you to some other projects i.e. ESPHome

      If you wanted to keep within the Raspberry Pi family, which does have a larger community behind it than the ESPs (IMO) you could also look at using the Pi Zero or possibly even the Pi Pico for your specific use case. Would make your learnings more transferable for when you want to use a different/larger Pi in other projects.

      Both avenues are valid, as are others I haven't touched on like Arduino (and Arduino has been around for a long time and has a large community behind it also), I just can't say much about those others myself.

    • jonathonsunshine on 05/06/2023 - 16:37

      You can, I attached a HD44780 through the GPIO. (It's a monochrome LCD panel, two lines of 16 characters). This was years ago, nowadays there's all sorts of touchscreen stuff and heaps of guides, drivers, precompiled images etc etc etc.

      You can make it as hard or as easy as you want :)

  • 0 0 0 on 05/06/2023 - 11:34
    -1

    By the time you factor in the cost of a power supply and cable you'd be better off with a second-hand laptop or mini/micro form factor PC. A lot for flexibility and processing power (but yes it does use more electricity if that's an important factor for you).

    • tm32 on 05/06/2023 - 12:02
      +3

      Rough power comparisons
      https://www.techaddressed.com/reviews/mini-pc-better-value-r…

      Cost to run 6w ~ $12 p/a
      Cost to run 38w ~ $75 p/a
      https://www.ausgrid.com.au/Your-energy-use/Energy-use-calcul…

      A laptop could be anywhere from 20-300w of power so will cost more over the long run.

      • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:17

        how about optiplex power usage SFF and USFF?

        • rumblytangara on 05/06/2023 - 14:29
          +1

          10-15W iirc, probably depends a fair bit on CPU gen. Main thing imo is that it runs a fan, which is a downside for 24x7 and anywhere semi-dusty.

          • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:38
            +1

            @rumblytangara: 10 to 15W is not too bad against 6W.
            but still about double cost per year

            so approx.
            Cost to run 12w ~ $24 p/a

            vs
            Cost to run 6w ~ $12 p/a

            yeah the fan is also a concern for me too.

            I don't want to leave an optiplex CPU fan running 24/7
            since eventually it will wear out and make noise
            and then you need to buy a new replacement.
            The fan running 24/7 would also use a lot more electricity than no fan.

            I don't worry about leaving pi on 24/7..

        • skillet on 06/06/2023 - 10:39
          +1

          Iirc my i5 10th gen optiplex MFF consumes under 7W with the screen off. The fan turns at super slow speed when idle. Sounds like super loud rocket when loaded.

      • r0nmac on 06/06/2023 - 14:45

        Thats max power. At idle power, they are comparable with the some of later SFF - less than 10W.
        Its good to have grunt available at hand when needed.

    • rumblytangara on 06/06/2023 - 11:37

      This is relevant to people who don't already have a box of spare USB chargers and cables sitting somewhere.

      Which probably isn't the kind of person who is trying to buy an SBC in the first place.

      Off memory, the one weird cable that Pi 4 needs is the micro HDMI to HDMI, which I think comes with the board.

  • browser on 05/06/2023 - 11:39
    +6

    If you are into flight tracking, setup a receiver and share the data with Flightradar will be eligible for free business subscription.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/how-to-get-a-flightradar2…

    Looked into it briefly, but decided Silver plan serves the purpose (ad-free and 90-day history).

    https://www.flightradar24.com/premium#compare

    • Link on 05/06/2023 - 12:07

      Hey that's pretty cool! Sort of reminds me of the days of donating your bedtime CPU cycles to SETI@home.

    • Link on 05/06/2023 - 12:40
      +2

      Alright, you've convinced me. This is what I'll dust my Pi 3 off for. ADS-B dongle on the way!

    • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:16

      what is benefit of free business subscription?

      • browser on 05/06/2023 - 23:22

        Longer history (3 years) and additional weather layers, most importantly it is the only plan allowed for commercial use.

  • ninjaboy123 on 05/06/2023 - 12:08

    As a first timer wanting to get into Home Assistant, should I get this or try find a Pi 3 model?

    • jaydisc on 05/06/2023 - 12:14
      +1

      Fine to start. Things might start to get hairy if you integrate cameras and "add-ons" (which are basically 1st/3rd party Docker images with extra software for more advanced integrations).

    • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:09
      +1

      depends on the price of the pi3 vs pi4 and how much you want to spend.

      if you can spend a bit more then pi4 is better in long run
      since it is more powerful and can be used for other purposes better than pi3

    • deadpoet on 05/06/2023 - 23:25

      If you're just doing fairly basic Home Assistant stuff like monitoring temperature/humidity/power consumption etc, then a Pi 3 B+ for example is perfectly adequate, I've had mine running for over a year and it's doing great. Having said that, the Pi 3 series can be hard to find in stock, so if you can get a Pi 4 B, might as well go for that.

  • Noppy on 05/06/2023 - 12:16

    Hopefully Core get in the PiKVM v4 soon.

  • Elijha on 05/06/2023 - 12:16

    Can anyone recommend a hdtv tuner to go with one of these?

    • knaff on 05/06/2023 - 13:35

      I run TVHeadEnd on my Pi3, https://tvheadend.org/ and use an Avermedia A835 Green, works perfectly

      https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices

      • maggoty on 05/06/2023 - 16:02

        I also use TVHeadEnd on my Pi4, but use an old Sony PS3 Play TV dongle adapter.
        Works a treat. I think you can buy that for less than 10 bucks at a Cashconverters.

        • Elijha on 08/06/2023 - 15:07

          Thanks guys. I wanted to do this and grabbed a XBOX Tuner when they were cheap on Catch for $10 .. but I could never get it to work. The ones I can find people referring to always seem to be unavailable ( out of production.. like you Avermedia A835 Green).

    • Mostly Fanless on 05/06/2023 - 14:05

      Will this do it? https://core-electronics.com.au/raspberry-pi-tv-hat.html
      (No personal experience but gets good reviews)

    • pinkybrain on 05/06/2023 - 14:11

      i think get optixplex would better if you want to use it for TV recording and TV headend etc..

      the optiplex is significantly more powerful than pi4
      and will not have issues with transcoding, recording alot of channels.

  • OzTech74L on 05/06/2023 - 13:31

    I think a ZimaBoard would be a better replacement for Rpi?

  • Oofy Doofy on 05/06/2023 - 20:39

    Go for a RISC-V SBC product instead. There are many coming out. Heck, someone is making a full ATX 64 core developer board, for the masses, soon.

  • motion2082 on 05/06/2023 - 21:10

    I have a Raspberry Pi Model B I bought for $48 back in 2015

    Anyone know if I can run Pi Hole on that instead of buying the latest version?

    TBH I haven't used my Rasp Pi for years

    • LloydGSR on 05/06/2023 - 21:59
      +1

      Easily, I've got Pihole running on one of those and on a Zero W.

      The Model B runs Wireguard as well.

      • motion2082 on 06/06/2023 - 07:59

        Thank you Lloyd, might be time to dust off the cobwebs

  • GhatT on 05/06/2023 - 21:41

    Still active after all these hours? Have they bumped up supply afterall?

  • Felixrising on 05/06/2023 - 22:38

    There goes my chance to offload my old pi4 for 100% mark up on original buy price…

  • zorodluffy on 06/06/2023 - 07:16

    When will pi zero 2 W be back in stock?

  • skillet on 06/06/2023 - 10:31

    If you need only 2GB ram this is cheaper alternative. 36 in stock.

    Https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/rock-sbc-boards/2563910

    • pinkybrain on 06/06/2023 - 11:32

      $87.86

      not a pi

      where's the deal?

    • spiderbite88 on 14/06/2023 - 00:25

      Any reviews on this?

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