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Intel Optane P1600X 118GB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 2280 3D XPoint SSD $98 + $50 Delivery ($0 with $380+ Order) + $12.14 Tax @ Newegg

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Intel Optane P1600X 118GB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 2280 3D XPoint SSD $98 + $50 Delivery ($0 with $380+ Order) + $12.14 Tax @ Newegg
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Last edited 22/05/2023 - 16:26 by 2 other users

Edit - if you are not buying $380 of product from Newegg, order from the Amazon deal instead
20% off the last deal

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Database, ZFS SLOG, dedicated swap, NAS cache and other Homelab applications
Enhanced Power Loss Data Protection
High Endurance Technology (HET)
Temperature Monitoring and Logging
End-to-End Data Protection

SSDPEK1A118GA01

Controller: Intel
Memory: Intel 3D XPoint
DRAM Cache: Unknown
Sequential Read: 1760 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1050 MB/s
Random 4K Read: 410,000 IOPS
Random 4K Write: 243,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 1292 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

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    • sjp770 on 20/05/2023 - 21:07
      +12

      Not what it's for.

    • Shermanpk on 21/05/2023 - 13:24

      Man I use to run my whole system on a 128GB SSD, Windows, Office, a few applications & whatever game I was playing at the time. Duno why you'd need more than 118GB, more is more obviously but 118GB is enough.

  • PlushToys on 20/05/2023 - 21:02
    +2

    Can someone enlighten us on why this is a deal?

    • sjp770 on 20/05/2023 - 21:07
      +9

      Last time it was $135?

      Optane drives have their place and shouldn't be compared with normal storage ssds

    • dlovep on 20/05/2023 - 21:40
      +15

      OP did mentioned… Database, ZFS SLOG, dedicated swap, NAS cache and other Homelab applications

      If none of those you're using…forget it.

    • netsurfer on 20/05/2023 - 23:01
      +27

      It's really a deal for people who runs servers, have needs to load a lot of apps often and need them to load quickly when doing so. You will also notice it has a TBW that's 10X of an equivalent sized SSD (can you get a normal 128GB SSD with a TBW of 1292 TB). Due to its small size, it is generally suggested to use it as a cache ssd.

      However, for general public, there are a few issues with this:

      • Price
      • Size, it is too small, so it is better suited for caching. It does run well as an OS drive for mostly apps.
      • In light usage, you cannot really feel its advantage. Yes, it opens apps faster, especially when you open multiple apps concurrently. The problem is, most of the time, we don't do that. Some professionals may have such need.
      • There are better versions of 3D X-Point solutions. They are even more expensive. If those were to really drop in price, people buying this will regret doing so.

      Just want a simple version? Think of this as a SLC 118GB SSD (PCIe gen 3 x4).

      • caidstech on 20/05/2023 - 23:34
        +1

        Great explanation ty

      • PlaunsJanus on 21/05/2023 - 09:11
        +4

        ^ This users comment is what makes OzBargain comments section so excellent. Thanks for the time taken to format your comment so nicely

    • SvcKpc on 21/05/2023 - 04:01
      +1

      It's not. You can get it for $112 on Amazon with free shipping.

  • HomebrewFC on 20/05/2023 - 21:13
    +3

    For those wondering: https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/details/…

  • WhyAmICommenting on 20/05/2023 - 21:20
    +6

    In short, don't get it if you aren't sure.

    Don't get it if you only have one nvme, unless you have a specific use case.

    Your run of the mill SSD is way cheaper for the size and easily fast enough for even enthusiast gaming.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • SBOB on 20/05/2023 - 21:33
      +2

      yeah but your run of the mill SSD wont have a name as long as this one :)

    • bargaino on 20/05/2023 - 22:08
      +4

      Funny how "playing games" is now the high end usage case.

      Sure, your old system is fine for running an airline reservation system or corporate database. But if you want to play games in your parents' basement, you need the latest tech.

      • Spendmore on 20/05/2023 - 23:09
        +2

        You need to get your own place!

      • PlaunsJanus on 21/05/2023 - 09:22
        +1

        That’s how it’s been since the dawn of home PC’s
        For my birthday, I asked for a Sound Blaster card for Dads 386 computer.
        Had to boot to DOS with a basic custom AUTOEXEC.BAT because it didn’t have enough RAM to run windows and games :)

        • GeneralSkunk on 21/05/2023 - 09:37

          I laughed at the parent comment. Kind of true, gaming demanding the best tech. But when I was a kid, the best PC of any of my friends was one whose dad was a civil engineer and ran Autosketch, SpaceGass and some other modelling tools. He had a 486DX with 4GB RAM when everyone else were on 286s and 386SXs with 1-2GB. Back then that sort of machine set you back $6-8k. I am building a CAD machine now (electrical design) and only went for a 3060 12GB, 7700X, 64GB which will do me fine.

          • NinjaChicken on 21/05/2023 - 10:17
            +6

            @GeneralSkunk: I reckon your 486DX might have had 4MB of RAM, not 4GB…I’m not sure a 486 would have known what to do with 4GB of RAM 😀

            • GeneralSkunk on 21/05/2023 - 22:22
              +1

              @NinjaChicken: Oh man. Yes, 4MB. 😅 I’ve been discussing my build a bit online, completely used to using GB, not MB. Thanks for that.

          • bobloblawlobslawbomb on 21/05/2023 - 10:28
            +1

            @GeneralSkunk: There is no way it had 4GB RAM. My first Pentium based PC had a 4GB hard drive.

          • PlaunsJanus on 21/05/2023 - 13:48

            @GeneralSkunk: Ah the nostalgia :)
            My best friends dad upgraded to a 486SX and much much later we got a Pentium 133MMX with a Diamond Stealth 2000 4mb graphics card…
            Never got that Sony Trinitron CRT though 😉

            • Jabba the Hutt on 21/05/2023 - 14:16
              +1

              @PlaunsJanus: I never got the Seagate Decathlon that was part of my 1996 build, thanks to a phone order miscommunication, and ended up with a crappy Medalist. I'm still not over it. Unfulfilled dreams that no amount of Optanes could make up for!

            • GeneralSkunk on 21/05/2023 - 22:34
              +1

              @PlaunsJanus: Awesome. Those were good to overclock. A friend of mine had a P150 which he ran at 183MHz from memory I think.

              Ah yeah the Diamond Stealth. I had a Tseng Labs thing, a Trident I think. I never had a Trinitron either, I did get a flat screen later in life though.

        • lenspizza on 21/05/2023 - 16:51

          That’s how it’s been since the dawn of home PC’s.

          I'm just glad that modern games scale graphics settings so well these days - doom really took "scale" too literally back in the day. https://imgur.com/C8JJh

  • undadog on 20/05/2023 - 21:45

    Is this good for building a homenas system?

    Have been looking into setting my own PLEX (my own hosted media) and nextcloud setup…

    • hippo2s on 20/05/2023 - 21:50
      +2

      In the case of NAS. You only need one if you have a scenario/intend to/need a cache drive for speeding up data access speed to and from your NAS….eg. frequent access of small packets, say 5+ ethernet pcs all using the transfer for similar data at the same time.

      Rule of thumb. If you don't know what it's good for or the benefits then you don't need it.

      For a home environment…<5 ethernet devices, not all online using the NAS…I wouldn't waste my money.

    • Bedgrub on 20/05/2023 - 22:37
      +1

      Most homelab users don’t have a use case for it, and if you don’t know if you do then you don’t.

    • Tollery on 21/05/2023 - 10:18

      What about using Jellyfin?

      • hippo2s on 21/05/2023 - 12:55

        Remember a cache drive is helpful when you have small amounts of data that are frequently or repeatedly accessed, or have high bandwidth demand that having data cached helps with the performance. Such is not the case of media streaming, Jellyfish, Plex…blah, the software doesn't matter. Think networking and IO of data off that NAS/server/database host. Unless you have multiple devices all playing back the same media file, roughly simultaneously and in sync of each other… again not likely to be the scenario in a home environment.

        Even if you force feed your kids to watch the exact same episode of 'The Simpsons' at the same time…1. it would be better to do it at the TV and single place, 2. modern day set ups will be plenty capable of handling it anyway.

        • Tollery on 21/05/2023 - 21:23

          Good explanation, thank you.

  • povogamer on 20/05/2023 - 21:51

    Thoughts on using this for a daily boot drive?

    • Sleepycat3 on 20/05/2023 - 22:14
      +2

      This is not for a boot drive. For that price, you can get a 1TB drive that is twice as fast.

      • povogamer on 20/05/2023 - 23:17
        +1

        Isn’t this much faster in terms of random read/write as opposed to sequential?

        • hippo2s on 20/05/2023 - 23:25
          +5

          No longer the case anymore in neither sequential nor random. I believe 970 Evo over took Optane specs…and that's was released like 5 years ago.

        • lenspizza on 21/05/2023 - 16:54
          +1

          Only when you're dealing with millions of IOPs. So maybe if you have hundreds of startup programs it would be worth it, but otherwise not really.

      • SvcKpc on 21/05/2023 - 04:03
        -3

        Wrong.

  • Brrrrt on 20/05/2023 - 22:00
    +10

    Niche product deals are rare +1 keep them coming

    Sure for 99% of folks here this wont interest them. But for that other 1% this is the bargain of bargains. Its exactly that these aren’t mainstream products that they usually arent on sale.

  • shabaka on 20/05/2023 - 22:13
    -3

    great find! a solid Steam drive. for someone who plays just one game 🎯

  • Poised on 20/05/2023 - 22:15

    the new floppy disk????

  • 4ustralian on 20/05/2023 - 22:26

    Back to the future?

  • getit on 20/05/2023 - 23:25
    +1

    Just for comparison,

    SN 850X Random Read 1,200K ; Random Write, 1,100K.

    990 Pro reached 1,400K / 1.550K random read and write IOPS.

    • hippo2s on 20/05/2023 - 23:31
      +1

      970 Evo (1TB) : 500K / 480K random read and write

    • SvcKpc on 21/05/2023 - 04:08
      +4

      You seriously have to stop judging exclusively by what you read on the specs sheet, AKA- marketing rubbish. All the actual benchmarks will show Optane drives being far superior for sustained random r/w, on top of having lower latency.

      If you are storing databases and VM images on a homeserver, Optane drives will provide far better, more consistent performance. Even a more budget friendly Optane like the P1600X will. If you want to utilize a SLOG drive in a zpool, then NAND-based flash storage like the 990 Pro aren't even an option, they are far too slow.

  • RBZ10 on 20/05/2023 - 23:45

    Dont normally spend the time cos ceebs but can get from amazon for almost same price if not cheaper once you factor shipping.

    I bought 2 free shipped with prime and some 5% buy 2 discount for $215

  • SvcKpc on 21/05/2023 - 04:00

    Shipping kills this deal. Just buy it off Amazon.

  • bambolayo on 21/05/2023 - 09:01

    i could be wrong…but Optane (1000+ Mbs) was a gap bridge when SSD was only around 550Mbs and even so, it a big jump from normal hdd. Latest NVMe SSD is now 7000+ Mbs. Optane mostly now irrelevant for consumer use.

    • tmr3 on 21/05/2023 - 14:43
      +1

      For consumers, Optane is too expensive per TB which I would argue is one of the more important metrics for the average person.

      However, even high end PCIe Gen 4 or Gen 5 SSDs haven't made significant improvements at low queue depths which is where Optane is still significantly faster than the vast majority of NAND SSDs. The headline sequential number looks big and flashy but ultimately isn't important in day to day use.

      Optane also excels when it comes to endurance which can be very useful for the examples OP gives.

    • SvcKpc on 21/05/2023 - 18:04

      Wrong indeed.

  • aarons on 21/05/2023 - 09:46

    Does anyone know how to find the cheapest second item on amazon to get the 5% off?
    I can't work out how to sort by price

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