There are growing voices from the corporates to force people to go back to office 5 days a week, with NAB now taking action for full 5 days a week in the office for senior staff:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/nab-ceo-calls-end-of-flexi…
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/25/time-to-go-…
Have you been asked to go back to work 5 days a week yet? Would you accept the request?
Agreed first round online and if necessary second round in person. I’m a contractor so I go for interviews every six months or so, depends on how long the contract goes for. My last job interview was in September and got the job after one Zoom interview.
It’s especially annoying because I think the majority of us are not unemployed. We might be applying elsewhere but we still have a day job, and it’s not like interviews are conducted after-hours.
Yeah good point, since COVID most of my job interviews have been online but some did all interviews in person.
Unless you are actually remote, face to face interview is the way to go as it gives a lot more information on the person you are interviewing. It's absolutely not the same thing as a zoom call.
But it's simple, you don't like face to face interviews? Don't go and lose your opportunity and let someone who's keen on the job get it.
Honestly this is the most spoiled, most entitled and laziest generation of workers ever. 🤦🏻
Yeah, no, absolute nonsense. I’ve been a hiring manager many times. You cut off interstate and international talent pulling that “in person only” nonsense.
If you can do it for genuine remote persons, then you can do it for ANYONE.
The entitlement is on the employer here. I don’t appreciate employers feeling “entitled” to command me around the city or state to have a chat that can easily be had by zoom. I have a job, and my time is valuable. It’s not easy to be running around wasting time for the interviews.
If the job is worth it, I guess I’ll comply. But it’s an immediate sour taste of what the company is like to work for. And for some jobs I’ll just say mehhhh don’t worry then, retract my application if you’re that difficult to work with.
Obviously if the candidate is interstate or international, face to face interview is not an option and the next best thing is zoom.
The in-person impression a candidate gives you is often very different than zoom interview. So if the candidate is in the same city I can't see a good reason why opting for zoom interview over face to face.
If a candidate doesn't want to put the effort of bringing himself to my office I'm not very interested, it tells me a lot about the candidate and how interested he is on the job.
You sound like someone Id never hire, and i sound like someone you would never want to work with - which is great 👍🏻
@liongalahad: Oh, you’re absolutely right about the last part! Good talent like myself won’t put up with nonsense. We got more important things to do.
@haemolysis: Oh you're so precious. So talented and full of important things to do, what a star! no time for showing up to a job interview.
I hope you realise how entitled you sound. All I see is gigantic red flags for whoever will ever employ you.
@liongalahad: Why so rude. The dude is spot on. Employers bring people in for interviews they have no intention of hiring all the time. That can be an expensive exercise for that person having to take time off work, pay for travel taxis etc.
When it is just screening for policy and comparison sake absolutely it should be done by Zoom.
Also helps the interviewer focus on a persons skills over charisma imo.
So many times I've been forced by my manager to bring an applicant in that had no chance just so they could see 'the field'.
@liongalahad: Well, all this talk about work commeraderie, bouncing back ideas off coworkers, impromptu meetings, etc: these can validate in person work.
But what validates it for an interview? You there to inspect how tall I am, or what I bring to the job?
Honestly this is the most spoiled, most entitled and laziest generation of workers ever. 🤦🏻
Kindly take two steps back and….
Not our fault we didn't get houses out of cereal boxes or jobs by walking onto the street with a uni debt that can be paid off in a summer of working at the local cafe.
Hey I'm a millennial too. But maybe it's because I originally come from another country where having a good, well paid job is a rare thing, while here is so much easier. I was raised thinking you have to put a lot of effort to get what you want. Nowadays people feels entitled to everything they want, in particular in this country. Even showing up to an interview is seen as something unreasonable. It's pathetic.
And the current economic situation has exasperated this to the extreme, with employees always having the upper hand (leading to huge drops in productivity) . There will be soon a wake up call anyway… Let's wait and see.
@liongalahad: So you came here for a better life and now are complaining about it being a better life? And this ominous future you predict you are really starting to seem too excited about? You need to accept having a 'good well paid job' is not what everyone places as there first priority and some of us have done enough hard work already that we can set some of our own conditions.
You know once upon a time many people worked 7 days a week 12 hours a day and often had to live at work unable to leave. So by their standards you are an entitled bludger.
Times change mate and every time you get a logical argument you can't refute you bugger off and argue your exact original point with someone else.
@tonka: What I like of Australia is the opportunities it brings, however many people, especially of younger generations, are spoiled rotten, the have no idea of what sacrifice is, they want everything and now.
It's ok to not putting your job at the first place of your priorities, but it's only natural that the ones that put it high in their priority list are the ones that have success. I'm for meritocracy, not for "everything is given no matter what effort you put”. You whinge and drag your feet because you have to show up your face to an interview? That tells me a lot about you already and I wouldn't be remotely interested in employing anyone like that.
@liongalahad: I personally just decline a face to face interview. I am very experienced and skilled at what I do. I get more work than I can handle just based on my CV without a 'sniff' test.
When I was young and learning things were different.
You should really consider whether you are hiring the best when you will only hire those willing to jump through silly hoops.
. I was raised thinking you have to put a lot of effort to get what you want. Nowadays people feels entitled to everything they want, in particular in this country.
Nah, people don't feel entitled, people KNOW that hard work alone doesn't get you anywhere. You can work 20 hour days and still never afford a house, so why bother? There's a difference between apathy and entitlement. The era of "work hard and get rewarded" is over.
It's ok to not putting your job at the first place of your priorities, but it's only natural that the ones that put it high in their priority list are the ones that have success.
Lol sod off
I know plenty of people that work their asses off to the bone and they don't get "success" or "rewarded". you seem to think that all you need to do is work late/hard and you'll be a success but that's just not true.
the have no idea of what sacrifice is
Yeah those poor young people with their six figure uni debts, houses that are at prices they can never possibly hope to afford and have to live in share houses and rent for their whole lives. They have no idea what sacrifice is.
You sound like the type of person that walks by a cafe and sees a young person having avocado on toast and thinks "if they didn't buy that, they'd have a house".
@coffeeinmyveins: Well, my experience is quite different. Coming from another country where those kind of things are indeed a mirage, here you have the chance to make a difference for yourself if you want. That's what I and many people I know have done, with no external help. A mate of mine (a lot more succesful than I am, ammittedly), came form the same place where I come form, opened a business here and now earns millions per year and lives in an oceanfront mansion with inifinty pool. Came here with zero. Could not have done this back in my country, not in a million years. He achieve this with sacrifice, putting the effore, the hours, and obviosuly his talent.
Then you hear these spoiled kids whinging about everything..giving up at the first obstacle because "I will never make it, so why bother". Or "nah, not doing this interview , cant be bothered bringing my ass to their office when they could have just done a zoom interview". It's absolutely, utterly pathetic.
Not saying everyone shoudl aspire to become filthy rich, far from me to think about it and thet's not even what I would aspire to. But to say young people have no chance in this country is just plain stupid and it's just a losing mentality.
@liongalahad: You know what, with the amount of comments you are making at all hours. It's getting hard to believe you work at all. Do you feel 'entitled' to be on forums on the internet all day? Do you have a really cruisy job or are you just not doing it?
@tonka: lol I can take pauses between things as much as I want, actually I NEED to take breaks every now and then and disctract myself, whatch the news, check ozb, they help me keep sanity since I work roughly 8 to 6-6:30 everyday and am my own boss basically and can do what I want with my time as long as things happen and go smoothly. If I didnt take breaks I could not do my job as well as I do. But what would you know about this…
@liongalahad: So you have a cruisy job then. This entitlement you feel to have lots of breaks is an interesting lens to read your previous comments through.
@tonka: It's funny how you completely ignore the meaning of the word entitlement. Im not "entitleld" to my breaks, I just choose to take them because I kinda need them in order to perform well since I work 10-10.5hours a day. If that sounds cruisy, then good on you. From your previous comments you seemd pretty much allergic to ever working hard or to put any effort whatsoever in what you do, but I may have misread you.
Anyway, you sound very salty and have a problem with me as you keep attacking me personally. Maybe I touched where it hurts. If I did Im sorry :( peace
@liongalahad: Push off mate, you've shown too much of your hand. Your 10-10.5 hour days (less constant breaks) is childs play. And now that you've been called out you're reeking with hypocrisy. You've ignored everybody's pros on wfh, to counter with nothing more than people being entitled or lazy.
And now you 'NEED' to surf the net all day to distract yourself from working. Stop trying to tell me how hard you work and I'll stop laughing, Mr 'I do what I want with my time'
@tonka: Lol childs play 😁 would be funny to actually compare our jobs, actually putting on the plate what I do, and what you do in one week, just for comparison and have a laugh 😂
Anyway, I won't lower myself to your level anymore. At the end you are just a sad person full of spite, hopefully you'll seek and find the help you need. I feel nothing but compassion for you ❤️
@liongalahad: No you don't. The last 12 months I've worked a 100 hour week over 3 employers with my hours documented. Half of that repairing the damage done by web surfing project people without the sense to engage an sme if the first place. Yes I'm now dropped back to my normal 60 hours and considering cutting back furthur to 30 if I can. You mistake my contempt for spite I think.
@liongalahad: I guess if I were to put my viewpoint in perspective: it’s not that I don’t think a job isn’t “worth efffort” but it’s that employment is a two way street. The employer is not my god. They give me a salary, and I bring them (much more) value.
And unless you recognise that value you bring and demand respect for it, well, employers will wrongly presume they hold a position of power over you, as they have for many generations.
It’s time to remember we aren’t working for charity. We are working for negotiated terms. And employers SHOULD feel pressured to make those terms favourable.
When I interview, it’s a very rare instance that I’m giving my time unpaid. Accordingly I expect some respect.
Not some out of touch zoomer asking me to take annual leave to shake their hand.
Someone who can’t make basic accommodations is the same type of person to ask you to come into office sick, cancel leave, work unpaid OT. It’s a big red flag.
That's Gospel, bruh>
"Honestly this is the most spoiled, most entitled and laziest generation of workers ever. "
Prepare to have your post erased by negs
My team worked from home for 1.5 years. We were asked and forced to go back to work 100% of the time.
The team's productivity went down 300%.
300% must be an hyperbole as you cant physically go down more than 100%
If the drop is true and so bad, don't worry your employer will be screaming now to go back to everyone WFH.
If that doesn't happen, it's because the productivity drop probably happened only in your mind.
Or management aren't very bright
That's correct, it is a hyperbole.
It went down somewhere around 80%.
The employer didn't care because they want people on the seats. We work for the government.
80% drop in productivity? Geez, what do you do in the office, play cards and watch Netflix?
@liongalahad: We are task focused.
At home with no distractions tasks were getting done quite efficiently.
The office is an open floor plan with over 150 people. We are right in the middle, next to the main exit. This creates a lot of issues for the team's productivity, from the simple hello to full conversations every 1 - 3 minutes, ad-hoc meetings, catching up with what happened at home/last night /weekend, etc.
No one in the office likes it but the management is adamant.
@[Deactivated]: Sounds like anecdotal bullshit to me.
Are you part of the management team and have you seen the productivity numbers?
If your team is truly that unproductive in an office environment then your management should fire you all for incompetence because you're all acting like a bunch of petulant children.
@caramellokoala: Or they're telling the truth and the environment is unsuitable. I am certain I couldn't do my job in the environment described.
@caramellokoala: Well, they said they work for the government.
You sound like you don’t know how government jobs usually operate. In my experience government employers will quite happily sacrifice productivity in order to serve the directive ‘flavour of the month’ (ie working in an open plan office.)
Management teams rarely assess any productivity KPI, much less fire people over it.
@haemolysis: I tried gov't work once. I got in trouble for working too efficiently and learning too much. I promise it's truth, I couldn't believe it. Specifically told to stop learning about our system (it was my job), told to stop trying to improve my efficiency. I was providing help desk support at the time and was also told not to answer phone or help anyone. I left soon after.
@tonka: Yeah my history of government jobs has similar shenanigans. Often the phase is “don’t set a precedent.”
@caramellokoala: No it is not.
You clearly have little to no idea how the government employees work. I have colleagues who stay and chat about between themselves about kids, trips, cars, footy, etc, in excess of 1hr/day. Add to that meals, bathroom breaks and other colleagues from the floor and almost nothing gets done.
I do produce the stats and numbers for the upper management.
If you think the management should fire us all of incompetence, well my friend, I hate to break you but the managers got those management position on incompetence and work of others. My boss is an absolute useless person who emails word documents asking us to change the font color because he needs to present it to his boss. And if you are wondering, yes, he presents those documents he didn't produce as his own creation, positioning himself for the next promotion.
@[Deactivated]: Yep, that sounds like a government job - hard to get fired I guess; I’ve seen the laziness, it’s usually the person’s character not so much location.
I have colleagues who stay and chat about between themselves about kids, trips, cars, footy, etc, in excess of 1hr/day.
This all sounds like a lack of personal accountability to me. You have complete control of who and what you talk about at work. I bet you have never reported these time wasters to management either.
Add to that meals, bathroom breaks
Seriously? These are things that need to be done at home also, or don't you go to the toilet or eat at home?
My boss is an absolute useless person who emails word documents asking us to change the font color because he needs to present it to his boss. And if you are wondering, yes, he presents those documents he didn't produce as his own creation, positioning himself for the next promotion.
Ahhh the crux of the matter. You sound like you're a bitter person, resentful of others promoted over yourself. No wonder the management team want to to keep a close eye on you with an attitude like that.
With the attitude above I highly doubt your "Work from home superstar" you paint yourself out to be.
@caramellokoala: The manager is in the middle of the team, I work approximately 2m away from him. Same as my colleagues, there's nothing to report. He does the same.
I'm not bitter over his promotions, I'm going to stay put until I retire, no more job seeking for me. I just see the incompetence.
I didn't promote myself as a champion, I never stood out, but my team used to be a superstar, not anymore.
Seems pretty obvious to me that the "growing voices from the corporates" is a bit of a media beat up, though there are probably some noisy, grey haired dinosaurs. It's still a pretty broad mix of 5 days in the office, WFH+ some office days and completely remote and that's just from the comments here.
I had a mate working for NAB before the pandemic. 80/20 office/home and shitdesking, at least once a week he'd end up on a different floor to his team or go home because he couldn't find a spot, usually on the days he dropped the kids at school and couldn't get there until 9am. The cafes and restaurants in the CBD are less busy but we've had 4 open within 750m of me in my suburb in the last 2 years. We were heading towards this before. The pandemic just accelerated it and we're still adjusting to find the mix that works for a lot of companies and people.
I had exactly this situation when working for CBA a few years back. they moved more and more people into our floor/area, to the point where it was hard to get a desk sitting near colleagues unless you got in ridiculously early or asked someone to save one for you (which has its own issues). I see CBA this week announced their staff must come in at least 50% of the time. An ex colleague there said it went down "like a lead balloon".
I was already working 2 days a week from home pre covid as my employer now is pretty flexible. Currently going in once a fortnight (which I plan on assumption it will be an unproductive day) and the company recently announced it is leasing our some of our floors to other businesses so unlikely to be much pressure to come in more anytime soon.
I work from home and sometimes go to office. Only thing that will make me change jobs for something better is when we have a 4 day a week jobs come my way.
returning to the office also adds to living expenses, its $30 a week for public transport fares and you either gotta pack a lunch or spend about $15 for pee wee size lunch at some japanese takeout place. 4534 = $540 increase for 'presence' in the office.
And you lose the tax deduction for working from home too.
Or you can quit. Easy as that. Lots of jobseekers out there locally and overseas.
Glad you were able to resolve your workplace bullying situation! Did you quit then too?
I did. I quit. I still get flashbacks from back then, sometimes cannot sleep. Best decision of my life. My current job is awesome. Thanks for asking.
Really works fine for some industries, ruinous for others, unfortunately my industry is the latter.
Don't understand people that want to fully WFH. Do you never want to see and socialize with the people you work with? I don't have a problem with 3 days being mandated.
No, why? I'm not trying to make new friends and I'm not trying to (profanity) any of them.
Yeah i feel isolated when i do WFH, plus you miss out on a lot on "informal meetings" which is where a lot of work gets done without people realising. No face time in front of your non-immediate bosses.
which is where a lot of work gets done without people realising
Sounds weird, if you can’t get work done without being sucked into an “informal” meeting, are you actually working at all?
An "informal meeting" is referring to just having a conversation, without necessarily arranging a specific window of time to talk about your topic. You can have a 5min chat to someone (has noone ever simply overheard people talking about something and realised it was actually relevant to them and their work??) and then keep working, rather than pontificating for couple hours, booking a meeting for later that day, etc etc. Maybe not so bad if your workplace uses instant messaging services?
Because they are playing games, watching shows, half the time when WFH
Because no one slacks off in the office
Sounds like boomer mindset bullshit.
Do you never want to see and socialize with the people you work with
Nope.
There's a reason why I don't see people I work with on weekends or if I leave the job, they aren't friends.
I am quite annoyed by that woman from the commercial property group that has been on all the talk shows calling workers "Selfish" for not going in the office. I remember in one article, she even said that she used to have 3 hours commutes.
Christ lady, just because you suffered, doesnt mean the rest of us do.
Im pretty safe in my role in WFH. I was in one Government agency that wanted to increase from 1 to 2 days in the office. I had a transfer already in place and they are still keeping to 1 day a week.
I have really appreciated WFH as I have been able to spend so much time with my kids. You just dont get that time back and I know that I have established a presence in their life. On the days where I do go to the office, im out the door by 8.30 and home close to 6. When do you get to see your kids? Crazy.
Yeah although I am not personally a fan of WFH, the argument of "doing your part by returning to office" riles me up. It isn't my job to waste huge amounts of time on commuting and whatnot so that i can keep the Martin Place train station cafe afloat, or make it viable for people to rent large CBD office space! I am doing MY job, i will spend my money in the economy in other ways thanks
As we know of course, people in the property industry, commercial or otherwise, aren't the least bit selfish…
Currently 1 day a week office. 3 or more, and I'll might consider looking elsewhere.
Even rumours of 4 day working weeks coming soon :D
Maybe if they organised more pizza parties and ping pong tournaments, I'd go in more often
Save money and get financially independent.
When they ask you to go back full time quit or keep doing your 2-3 days in office till they sack you.
Then either do retire early thing or get a part time job.
Life is too short for bullshit jobs.
Yes definitely good to save money for a time when need to push back - have a safety net
I don't support back to the office but for those who have to be back, the good news is that your job cannot be easily done remotely, hence "safe" from oursourcing.
For those who wfh permanently, do you notice new hires come from all over the country ?
I dont support WFH full time, we have noticed coming back to the office 2 days a week that we have much better team cohesion. Meetings and training ibn person are way better than online, no comparison at all. I think a balance is needed, don't need to work 5 days in the office, however I don't think its good working from home full time for anyone's mental health long term.
Going to the office you get out of your house/area etc and see or experience something new. At home every day is virtually the same, like groundhog day. I find those who want to work full time at home really boring, generally not curious or inquisitive people, plus it makes you lazier as you have to make less effort in life.
I like this idea.
WFH is fine, I'm super prone to distraction though. But if I get into a good flow its all good.
Also, it made me enjoy my after work home time less. Obviously everyone is different though, and every industry is different
100% my observations too.
If you can do your job remotely, and companies try to force you back, on the longer term it will affect overall productivity and staff turnover. That has already been proven in the trends we've seen to date. e.g. NAB is asking everyone to be back in the offices full-time. They will struggle to hire for competitive roles (e.g. devs, data scientists..). And they'll have difficulty retaining highly sought out talent, they'll be forced to waive this policy to IT…then the policy becomes inconsistent, and then they'll have to backtrack anyway. it's a mindless exercise, but that's what corporates do.
few years later, we won't be talking about this dilemma. It's just that corporates are designed to make shifts like this difficult.
good voter turnout
I've noticed some people on the floor in the office are having MS Teams meeting even though I could sense they are in the same meeting. It's so odd really on why folks do this, whereby they could just book a meeting room and have that face to face interactions which is the whole idea of coming in to the office, to meet …. in person.
Yeah nothing like being told to go back to the office just to spend the entire day in Teams meetings.
Because it can be more productive.
If you are not a primary contributor of the meeting you can multi-task and get something else done.
Almost every meeting involves looking at a screen, teams allows people to take turns presenting.
Unless there is a dedicated meeting room with a big screen, trying to share a laptop screen is just amateur
Teams meetings can be recorded
There are so many more benefits.
I am stuck with constant meetings and I think it's been maybe a decade since all participants were within 1000km
It's much better when people have their individual pc, and headset
Having to find and book an available meeting room. Going to the meeting room, often on another floor because they're mostly full. Waiting outside meeting rooms because the previous meetings nearly always go over time. Having people hovering outside towards the end of your meeting. Then having to go back to your desk again.
Can absolutely see why people prefer teams.
if most of your colleagues and your bigger team have the same mindset as you, I don't think going to work will benefit any of you guys by just having Zoom/MS Teams meeting.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here?
I quite like walking to the station and catching the train in. Going to cafes with co workers, talking about work and hobbies - face to face. Pub is a great way to unwind after work, occasionally.
On the other hand I have strong work relationships and friendships over the phone so WFH can be productive and social too.
The cost of PT is high, but it’s nice always getting a seat by and read a book.
When I work from home I ride my bike at lunchtime which is quite special. At work I walk in Melbourne’s great city parks.
I think 3 days a week onsite suits me. 5 is too much and I suspect sickies go up with 5.
I would bet sickies are way down with WFH. Would be interested to see some accurate data on this.
In office 3 days a week… WFH 2 days a week.
I find WFH is much better for getting "attention to detail" work done & the office is much better for getting collaborative work done.
Sooooooo true so it depends on your role. Generally speaking management roles are better in the office and admin/IT roles are better at home.
This is true.
My job involves lots of "attention to detail" type work and is perfectly suited to working from home. Its why the team I work in has an agreement to be in the office only once a fortnight.
Yep same, I find it much easier to concentrate at home. The only distraction is the kids wanting my attention occasionally, which I give them unless I’m in the middle of something important, as they’ll be adults before I know it.
Nope, my company gives you 100% flexibility. They don't care where you work as long as you get the job done! They also let you manage your life, not 9-5. Manage your life with work. Surprise! The way it should be.
So CBA announced this week that their staff must come in at least 50% of the time. I used to work there a few years back and an ex colleague who is still there said it "went down like a lead balloon".
The company line was about collaboration and innovation being better when people are in the office. I've no doubt this is true for certain roles, but don't buy that it is relevant to most jobs.
My nephew works for them in some sort of HR analyst type role. A couple of weeks ago he told me that they've been asked over and over again to look at productivity between WFH and the office. Every time they found no loss of productivity with WFH.
So it seems the company has now found a different reason to force people back instead.
You guys are being asked? We're told. Also there's desk share…
As it should be, once you tell people to come in when they’ve been WFH they naturally get their back up. The desk share is no problem at all, you can’t have WFH and expect your own desk. Anyway if you adopted the clean desk approach you wouldn’t have an issue with it.
Except when they over populate areas based on assumptions about absenteeism, leave etc that often don't play out in reality the same way they do in the spreadsheets.
Very true, where I work they apparently don’t have enough desks, but when you go into the office there’s ALWAYS spare desks throughout the whole building.
The companies who are forcing their staff back into the office are only doing so because:
1) Their mates own the commercial properties in the CBD and need their tenants to make mony
2) They don't see a problem with the commute when they drive across the bridge from Mosman in 10 minutes and have free parking at the office and leave at 2pm
3) They are dinosaurs that get their rocks off from breathing down peoples necks and don't understand how "remote calls" work.
There's literally no productivity reason why you need to be in the office every day of the week, and it's not good for the employee either.
I had a recruiter call me yesterday with a job opportunity and he even said "this is a deal breaker for a lot of people" and then said they are 5 days in the office at bondi junction. I just laughed and said nah mate.
Also the potential for properties close to CBDs to not be worth such a premium if WFH becomes entrenched long term. And who mostly owns these premium priced properties?……
Good point, can't have the poors getting smart now can we.
Basically If your employer wants their staff at the work place, then WFH demands outside a pandemic is as entitled as it gets.
Those ppl who refuse might be regretting it later when the recession closes in. I suspect employers will reward the loyalty factor of those who complied.
The fact that the LNP, especially Dutton has not sided with employers wanting staff to comply with such requests shows how empty of principles the 'pro business' LNP really is. They'd do anything to win govt. Even become the ALP.
I'm talking about 'if' the management needs and wants one of two choices. Recalcitrant Vs flexible.
I wonder how many of these 'demand to work from home' cohorts have never been a union member?
I wonder how many decried lockdowns,period?
If at the end of the day you choose to be unemployed - rather than work in the office etc, then that queue at the unemployment office will have different faces.Lot less 'loyal ones, I'd say.
Jobs and opportunities will be short lived in the medium long term anyway.Recession,tech,AI will all cull the numbers.
Party's over>
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/its-time-to-adm…
Even another covid wave won't justify it now
If we have another COVID we will be back in lockdown waiting to be stabbed with the latest Pfizer comes up with. All non essential workers will be WFH.
I’m finding it extremely annoying that not only am I seeing mandatory in office attendance growing, but I’ve had a few job interviews lately for a bit of lateral growth.. and they are all refusing zoom interviews? Obviously I’m not going to jeopardise my application and refuse, but… it’s honestly ridiculous. Why have I got to spend hours out of my day to have a quick chat. I can understand a second round where they really want to meet you, but… don’t waste hours of my day during the screening process so I can sit at your desk and tell you about my resume you should have already read. We are all busy people, and my time is valuable.