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Gaming PC: R5 5600, RTX 4070 12GB, 1TB M.2 16GB RAM $1368 | R5 5500, RTX 3060Ti 8GB, 500GB M.2 16GB RAM $888 + Post @ TechFast

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Howdy Folks,

New deals for may starting with a slight respec of our popular budget R5 5500 RTX 3060 Ti deal, and an all-time low for RTX 4070. Upgrades available on most lines as always.

Regarding shipping times, we did have some extended times throughout late March into around mid April due to high demand and inbound stock delays, but these have been resolved and we're back to shipping on to inside our advertised 14 business day time. As of time of posting right now, systems are shipping in as little as 4-5 business days so get in early as demand will see that normalise to the 14 day mark. And apologies for the delay it took in responding to the queries in a previous deal - we saw the confusion and concern that caused. Luke was on annual leave and I (Caleb) was responding to customer support PMs (hence showing user online - not ignoring comments, just helping customers with resolutions they'd raised before comments were posted).

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 4070 12GB Gaming PC: $1368 after 5600-4070-MAY

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5600 processor
  • RTX 4070 12GB (Gainward or PNY)
  • AMD A320 Motherboard (MSI B550m-P upgrade available for $100)
  • 16GB RGB 3200MHz
  • 1TB M.2 SSD
  • 650W 80+ Bronze PSU
  • Maverick case (MAG FORGE upgrade available)
  • Stock AMD Cooler

Ryzen 5 5500 RTX 3060 Ti Gaming Desktop - MAY: $888 after 5500-3060Ti-MAY

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5500 CPU
  • RTX 3060 Ti 8GB (Galax)
  • AMD A320 Motherboard (MSI B550M-P Upgrade available for $100)
  • 16GB 3200MHz RAM (brand/model may vary)
  • 500GB M.2 SSD (brand/model may vary)
  • 650 W 80 + Bronze PSU
  • Leaper Air Maverick case (MSI MAG FORGE available $29)
  • Stock AMD air cooler by default

Cheers,
Caleb & Luke

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    • +7

      Your 4070 PCPP table looks is a tad off…$456.01?!

      • I would buy a system if it costed that much!!!

    • +1

      No prices for video card, memory or PSU…

  • +12

    A320 paired with a 5600 and 4070. Come on

    • +3

      What's wrong with that it's not like they won't use all the lanes

    • +3

      99% of users will not care about the extra features of B or X series motherboards. AM4 board VRMs are all overbuilt anyway so this A320 should have no issues with a 65W 5600. If it means saving a few bucks most people would take the A320

      • +2

        are you qualified to represent 99% of the user? Have you conducted any research with a good sample size?
        a320 is trash. Yes its VRM may just drive a 65w power load fine(doubtful in summer), even in winter with no thermal headroom means it will run hot and thermal cycle its way to death.
        No PCIe 4.0 so by nature GPU will be a few percent slower. Nor you can enjoy loading speed of PCIe 4 SSD either.

        And usually have a PCIe 1x slot close to GPU slot means PCIe WiFi is likely blocked by bigger sized GPU

        • trash audio. No 2.5Gbps Lan either.

        I would be surprised to know if only 1% people out of all "new computer buyers" need at least 1 of the features listed above.

        • Look it up, there's tons of people running examples of bottom tier A320 on 65W CPUs with no issue.

          Luckily you can upgrade of you need any of those :)
          I'll take the cost saving from the A320

          • +1

            @Spoodster: say using PCIe 3.0 hinders your GPU performance by 3%.

            and your RTX4070 costed $900, you effectively lose $27 worth of performance on your GPU.

            say that with the power delivery being "just good enough", your motherboard life span is shorten by a year or 2, from 5 year to 3, by then motherboard is discontinued and you got nothing to replace with, how much value do you lose?

            also, no issue != no performance degradation != same life expectancy.

        • May be share link(s) to REPUTABLE-sites that suggest A320-chipset hinders the performance of R5-5600 3060Ti….for novice buyers.
          I'm not sure about A320 older generation technology & share your concerns….any experts out there ?

          • +3

            @ab c: just checked Gamers Nexus's PCIe 4.0 Scaling video, so conclusion is older PCIe 3.0 doesn't matter in most gamers except a few take a big hit. and average being single digit slower. With this data I can say my 3% is a bit over exaggerating, so I apologies for whoever got miss informed.

            But my point with the rest stands.
            trash Audio — all uses ALC897 and worse,
            trash Lan — Realtek Gigabit, no 2.5Gbps, not even Intel based (generally Intel Gigabit is more stable and faster)
            trash PCIe Expansion some won't allow to have a WiFi card(blocked off) when you have a bigger GPU inserted.
            (source from read a320 motherboard spec page one by one)

            Trash VRM:
            AM4 vCore rating sheet: https://i.redd.it/2iwdy5wrrly31.png

            checking the photo of ASUS a320m-k (what OP listed right below) here, it appears to have 4 phase vcore + 2 phase SOC. talking about vCore here(the portion powering the calculation bit of CPU) — 1high/1low FET was used.

            Checking ASUS B450m-K it appears to use almost the same parts but vCore was 1high+2low.

            and even B450m-K have a pretty poor rating on the sheet, requires some airflow to deliver 65w, A320M-K would be almost half of the performance.

            Cross reference the above VRM tier list with Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming, Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro on this video. Both mobo listed is better than B450m-k yet having high temps, yet b450m-k is a lot better than a320m-k (reason above)

            If whoever don't want to listen to my advice and brag about how smart they are to get a320, well, good luck.

            quick explain about FETs:
            high side converts 12v to lower voltages, and low side converts whatever from high side to something like 1.3v — exactly what CPU need.
            Per FET have a set amount of Amp output regardless of what output voltage it is.
            say a low side FET does 10A, at 1.4v voltage it would deliver 14watt power. and there's 4 phase for load balancing
            same low side FET * 2= 20A, at 1.4v voltage it would deliver 28watt power. and there's 4 phase for load balancing

      • +1

        The motherboard selection provided by TechFast on these 2 deals are disappointing.

        • A320 board could be an Allied A320 motherboard. Even if we ignore VRM and general board improvement on RAM modules (more on that later), an issue is BIOS update. For AMD, unfortunately, AGESA updates can be quite useful. Hopefully, there will be no major issue needing further AGESA update for AM4 CPUs. Try finding the Web site for Allied motherboards. Let's also hope TechFast already upgraded to the latest BIOS.
        • An MSI staff revealed that for each new chipset generation, motherboard makers do attempt to improve the signalling (RAM, CPU, PCIe). A "proper" B550 would have better RAM support, PCIe gen 4 support.
        • Unfortunately, the B550 option (MSI B550M-P) is a low cost B550 which strips PCIe gen 4 support (only PCIe gen 3 based on the specs on MSI Web page) and that even includes the m.2 slot.
        • That B550 motherboard option does not provide USB 3.2 gen 2 ports.
        • A320's chipset supports only PCIe gen 2. However, I doubt that matters to most people getting these.
        • The main advantages of the B550 option in this case are (1) you know which motherboard so you can get the BIOS update youself later (2) should you not able to resist DDR4-3600 deals later, you will be able to use it (but note that DDR4-3200 CL22 included in a package means for a proper DDR4-3600 upgrade, you will need to take out the DDR4-3200 CL22 RAM modules).
        • I don't have the info on how good MSI B550M-P handles RAM modules (i.e. how well it handles 4 DIMMs). Specs quote DDR4-4400+ Mhz. You will be lucky to even get A320 to do DDR4-3400 since for most A320 boards, DDR4-3200 is already in its overclocked limit. So the motherboard isn't designed to handle anything more than DDR4-3200.

        I get these are basically GPU centric PC deals and to keep the cost down, strip the motherboard down to bare minimum (and actually below the preferred norm). Yes, PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs are overkill for most of us. Also, investing too much in AM4 seems unwise. The problem is if you picked RTX 4070 12GB, it does seem odd to fully cheap out on the motherboard and RAM. Sure, if the aim is to build a PC in the same way as a console (i.e. squeeze all the funds to pay for the GPU), then it is fine.

        With A320, it feels like building a PC with a PS4 era motherboard, but have a GPU that's much better than PS5. However, the B550 board upgrade has too much cost saving, it is basically a low end B450 boards in terms of features and VRM, but seems to have B550 level of RAM support and a larger BIOS (2X the size of B450/A320) so some features are not stripped off.

    • Bought an X series motherboard thinking I would use more features. Total waste of money.

      • +1

        Depends on the motherboard. For my X570:

        • Much better RAM timing for 4 DIMMs (compared to a B450 board, same CPU).
        • Thunderbolt 4 support.
        • PCIe gen 4 Bifurcation support (if I really want to, additional 4 m.2 PCIe gen 4 x4 slots to the CPU, so 6 m.2 PCIe gen 4 x4 possible).
        • The extra m.2 PCIe slot for WiFi I do use (got a Wifi 6E for that slot).
        • More USB ports for the case (front USB ports).
        • 2.5Gbps LAN is a waste for me though, no switch supporting that.

        BIOS speed is disappointing though. With X570, you do need to plan and get one that supports enough goodies.

    • Regarding 3060Ti system…

      A320 Mobo: read widely & may be investigate OMGJL comments in this post ?

      If ok with the above & if you want to game @ 1080P ULTRA-setting with 60+ fps in ANY-games: immersive gaming experience-> pay $99 upgrade to R5 5600.
      Also, your system has a better-chance of being current as you head toward the 2nd year of ownership. Can you be certain that you don't want to play a high resource demanding games in 12 months time ?
      https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600-vs-AM…

      'Low-tier' parts: there have being lots of noises.
      TF's brand & model#: good-quality & ‘low tier’ parts do the job well & recommended for ‘low-end’ systems $1K ish, see details below.
      NO-overclocking.

      If you have the funds, sure pay extra for 'mid-tier' parts, more features on Mobo (RGB power source & wifi: may be you can do without) & better VRM. You can easily pay 50% extra.

      If you can wait, excess stock clearance always come around: $100 ish savings ?
      1.The release of 4070 is likely to push prices of GPUs @ the 'low-end' downwards…watch this space.
      2.Notice that an i5-13400F was released in Jan-23 & in Feb-23 cheap-deals were offered with i5-11400F-> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/gaming%20pc%2011400…

      All sellers operate on very low-margin & hope that things goes smoothly: but reality is different & they all face challenges. Go easy on them: staff are under the pump.
      Proof, see how much these systems are selling at other places. @ OzBargain, systems are @ rock bottom prices.

      Here are the brand & model# not listed @ deal.
      MOTHERBOARD Asrock H510M-HDV
      GPU 3060Ti 8Gb Galax 1-click OC
      RAM Adata XPG Spectrix D50 RGB DDR4 3200MHz
      SSD Western Digital Green 480Gb SATA
      PSU Gigabyte P650B 650W 80+ Bronze
      Can provide proof of ACTUAL system performance, if needed.

      Good luck & happy gaming.

  • +3

    need a ddr5 with ryzen 5 7**** series with a 4070! :)

    • +1

      THIS already!
      (but I'll take a 4070ti)

  • +4

    Here are the revised PCPP lists.

    4070 configuration:
    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Motherboard Asus PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $115.01 @ Amazon Australia
    Memory Silicon Power SP016GBLFU320X22 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory $53.00 @ MSY Technology
    Storage ADATA Legend 710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $63.00 @ BPC Technology
    Video Card PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card $939.00 @ Centre Com
    Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $38.00 @ MSY Technology
    Power Supply Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $78.00 @ MSY Technology
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1485.01
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-03 16:01 AEST+1000

    3060Ti Configuration:

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $145.00 @ BPC Technology
    Motherboard Asus PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $115.01 @ Amazon Australia
    Memory Silicon Power SP016GBLFU320X22 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory $53.00 @ MSY Technology
    Storage PNY CS1031 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $36.38 @ Amazon Australia
    Video Card MSI VENTUS 2X OCV1 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card $599.00 @ MSY Technology
    Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $38.00 @ MSY Technology
    Power Supply Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $78.00 @ MSY Technology
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1064.39
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-03 16:03 AEST+1000
  • +1

    The a320m motherboard that comes with is an ALLIED MBA320, whatever that means,

    @luketechfast I've had issues w my build and configuring the ram to the advertised speed of CL 16-20-20-x

    Can you please message me to resolve these issues

    • +5

      Hi KungFu Jesus,

      Happy to look into this for you if you can reach out via PMS with your details.

      Cheers,

      • Yo Luke,

        I just purchased your April 4070 deal during just a few days ago and upgraded the M2 size, i've just emailed Sales about this

  • +6

    Is there any reason companies dont go for an AMD solution? i.e a 6700XT

    • Think its just a popularity thing

      • +2

        no they're just clearing stock.

        • Because they're not popular or?

      • +1

        But that makes no sense if they are built on demand. More and more people are fed up with nvidia these days.

        • +1

          Trust me people are also fed up with amd. It's just the matter of choosing between 2 devils

  • +2

    What's the Maverick case like? I can't seem to find any details on it. Also it says here (ozbargain) that an upgrade to the MSI MAG FORGE is $29, but on the site it's $69.
    Wish there were a CPU upgrade to a 5700x or 5800x, which would better be suited for the 4070.

    • +1

      Leaper Maverick case is,
      1. aethestically pleasing, even today.
      2. optimal air flow & 'bang for buck'.

      The 'rainbow LED front panel strip' is one of the best-looking WHITE-case & not-cheap.
      I stuck a RGB light-strip inside the PC to brighten it up (sync to sound): ebay $7. With RGB-ram: enough lighting for me.

      It's designed for gaming. 'Aerated front panel design, 4 x 120mm pre-installed fans (3 intake, 1 exhaust)' allow lots of air flow.
      You can easily spend $100+ for more air flow: extra-2 fans for top vents &/or 140mm upgrade to existing fans. But likely to gain a few degree cooler-temp. @ CPU/GPU: NOT worth it.

      This WHITE-case was the reason I waited 3 months for my system to come up: I bought this deal-> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/758454.
      https://techfast.com.au/products/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600-RTX-407012…

      Happy gaming.

  • Anyone with more technical knowledge than me able to clarify whether I'm going to get bottlenecked or hamstrung by the mobo if I don't have any intentions of running a more powerful cpu/gpu over the PCs lifetime?

    • For starters the A320 has one m.2 slot while the b550 has 2 if that’s important to you

      • For 1 m.2 slot, does it mean that I can only insert one ssd into the motherboard?

    • -2

      Per bottleneck calculator there's a 0% bottleneck in your CPU and GPU. The mobo won't be an issue unless you want a substantially better processor, which you say you don't.

      Be aware too that changing mobo is no big deal anymore anyway. Usually you don't even have to reinstall Windows. Four years down the road when this isn't cutting it anymore, swap the GPU. In 6-8 years do the mobo and CPU.

      • +3

        In 6-8 years just get a new computer haha

    • +2

      Depends which build you're talking about.
      Ryzen 5 5600 & RTX 4070 - nearly 10% bottleneck at 1440p
      Ryzen 5 5500 & RTX 3060 Ti - zero bottleneck at 1440p

    • -3

      I think the ryzen 5500 bottlenecks the rx 6700xt, I don't get the good frames on valorant compared to my i5-9600K w rx 6600xt (old pc)

      • No, it would get higher unless you specifically play at the lowest settings to reach 240 frames plus.

        • -2

          Wdym? On both pc I play lowest or low id setting and I expect 240 like 300 frames min cuz my 1080p@240hz alienware monitor but seems 5500 is bottlenecking in val

          • +1

            @AndrewMTG: 5500 also hovers around 240 fps to 300 fps as well.

            And yeah, if you play it that way, sure. But if you're running 6700xt, you wouldn't be playing at the lowest setting or with 1080p. Outside of those very specific use case, it'll usually get higher than your machine as 5500 is enough for 6700xt

            • @Wonderfool: I've got a ryzen 5700x sitting in the box for like 3 months now, was considering putting it in this prebuild but now I don't wanna risk it with the noname motherboard.

              Probably gonna have to bite the bullet and spend $200 on some am4 mobo that is still in stock

    • +6

      I think people are misunderstanding your question. The MB chipset will not impact performance at all. You will not gain any performance with a more expensive motherboard, only additional features, support for higher core count CPU, higher overclock on RAM, more slots for pcie cards or hard drives.

  • Considering how old RTX 3060 Ti 8GB (Galax) is, it should be cheaper…

  • +1

    How about an intel build?

  • Can we please have an upgrade option for the CPU for the 4070?

  • +3

    where are the 4070ti/4080 deals…

  • Real talk, does anyone know if this can be couriered to Canada?

    • +2

      Are you a Sailor currently on a ship?

  • would it be easy to replace this case with a an old-skool case with 5+ 3.5 bays? thx

  • Be aware this doesn't come with a Windows license, so factor that into the price if you don't have a license available to use

  • Hi, I couldn’t PM due to new account. I was looking at the build with the 3060. If I upgrade the CPU and case is there a likelihood it will arrive in metro Sydney by next weekend? I have a birthday I want to make it for

    • I would say not

  • Whatever happened to the 4070Ti deal from April? I think the mobo of that is better than this?

  • Assuming that your system has the grunt deliver these gaming-scenario @ 60+ fps: 1080P-Ultra vs 4K-Ultra, there is negligible 'immersive gaming experience' between them.
    The push by the gaming industry for 1440p & 4K is about sales, ie gamers are being mis-lead & manipulated to upgrade.
    Assuming system capable hardware, try,
    1.visit a gaming lounge & play @ 1440p 60+ fps on a 32” monitor, &/or
    2.gaming @ your friend’s place @ 4K 60+ fps on a 65” TV.
    For the ‘enthusiast’ minority, the above don’t apply.

  • +1

    Is anyone able to confirm you can fit the 3060ti and a wifi card together on this motherboard? Thanks

    • On the motherboard description it says "A Second PCIE Device (E.G. Network Card) Will Not Fit. " so unlikely. I am planning on putting a USB wifi thing.

  • Would the AMD 5600 and RTX 4070 good for missus use? She does indesign, photoshop, word etc. and daily usage (web,YouTube, etc)

    • Yes of course, even the 3060 ti will do the job well for that, I am getting it for that reason plus doing some video editing.

  • Hi. Anyone bought from date of posting 03/05 and got their order yet? Was wondering what the actual lead time nowadays was

    • Mine was reasonably fast, ordered on 8th of May and its on its way now. So got to Aus post on 11th

  • I bought the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 4070 12GB Gaming PC on May 4th and collected it from the warehouse on May 11. It runs well - have given it a good thrashing on MS Flight Sim (ultra settings) and Half Life Alyx using Oculus 2.

  • +1

    Hey @luketechfast

    I'm interested in the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 4070 12GB Gaming PC but have a few questions…
    - If I upgrade to the MSI B550M-P, i'm correct to assume it'll take an additional 3 hard drives (1 SSD and 2 x 3.5" drives)
    - If I upgrade to a Gold PSU, what brands do you use?
    - If I upgrade to 32gb ram, what brands do you generally use? and will it be 2 x 16gb configuration?

    • Would be nice to know the answers to your questions. It would seem pretty culpable if @luketechfast would not be able to answer your basic questions of the build.

      For example wouldn't just a simple: "We use these 3 motherboards: ASUS A320 XXX, MSI A320 or GIGABYTE A320 XXX" suffice?

      I think greater visibility of their parts used on components would help the consumer and themselves.

      • AndrewMTG wrote:

        The a320m motherboard that comes with is an ALLIED MBA320, whatever that means,

        If you read the rest of his comment. It appears the deal he bought stated DDR4-3200 CL16-20-20-x, but he is not able to get the motherboard to run that setting. For A320, DDR4-3200 is considered memory overclock.

    • If I upgrade to the MSI B550M-P, i'm correct to assume it'll take an additional 3 hard drives (1 SSD and 2 x 3.5" drives)

      I'm going to assume by "SSD", you actually meant m.2/NVMe SSD.

      MSI B550m-P Spec:

      • 1x M.2 slot (Key M, From CPU)
      • Supports PCIe 3.0 x4, SATA 6Gb/s

      Also, 4 SATA ports. The question is how many SATA ports the A320 board has, it cannot be 0. If I have to guess, I would say there is a net gain of 0 extra SATA port with that motherboard upgrade. As I mentioned before, the only real upgrade is potentially better VRM, memory stability / timing, and the ability to upgrade above DDR4-3200 if you want to. A320 officially tops out at DDR4-3200 (it is already considered overclocked for A320).

      Anyway, the answer is: you cannot add additional NVMe SSD to that B550 board nor you get any PCIe gen upgrade by upgrading to that B550 board (the package includes 1 NVMe SSD, so the m.2 slot will be used up). The 4 SATA ports, you can mix and choose, HDDs or SSDs.

      You are after too many upgrades, if you can assemble the PC yourself, might be better to ask TechFast for a deal on the GPU. However, if you are not comfortable doing that (it's not simple if you haven't done it before), then you need to negotiate each upgrade part with TechFast.

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