Unexpected Traffic Infringement Notice in National Crime Check Report

webtonmoy on 21/04/2023 - 15:56
Last edited 21/04/2023 - 16:02 by 1 other user

Yesterday, I received a report from National Crime Check (that I ordered for a job-related requirement), which states that I have "one (1) disclosable court outcome recorded". It states that there is a "TR.INFRINGEMENT" against me in 2016 with the offence "EXCEED SPEED LIMIT BY 15 TO 22 KM/H" and the result of "$150.00 (3 Demerit points)"

Now, Here is what I have collected so far:

i) This is the first time I became aware of this.
ii) From the date mentioned, I found that I was travelling in Tasmania around that time, and hired a car there.
iii) My driving history is absolutely clean (0 points).
iv) I did not receive a letter for the aforementioned fine.
v) When I hired the car, in their online form I mentioned my address in Victoria
vi) I was driving using an overseas license at that time, so I guess they may have sent the fine to the address recorded in that driving license.
vii) I converted to a full Victorian driving license in 2019, I submitted my overseas license to VicRoads for checking, but nothing was mentioned about this history.
viii) I have done police checks in 2018 and 2020, but nothing came up then.

The steps I have taken:

a. I talked with MPES, Tasmanian Government. They stated that they have this fine on record, but I do not owe them anything now. They provided me with a letter showing $0 due. They said something about 7 years being passed or so, I am not sure exactly…

I am shocked to find that in the entire 10 years of driving with $0 fines and 0 points, I happened to score a speeding violation for the 2 days I hired a car in Tasmania…

I want to expunge this record from my NCC report. I am very fine to pay the fine if required. Any suggestion on what should be the steps to do so? I appreciate any help on this.

Automotive Traffic Fine

Comments

  • Hybroid on 21/04/2023 - 16:05
    +8

    Sounds like an potential error by the rental car company whom may have passed on your details for someone else's fine. Very strange you have not been chased up for the fine nor had the demerit points though.

    National Crime Check seems to be a third party company, not a govt entity. Does a National Police Check show this infringement too? Would that certificate be sufficient for job or does it have to be NCC? Just thinking outside box for potential easier solution than trying to get a 7 year old record fixed.

    • webtonmoy on 21/04/2023 - 16:18
      +1

      Thanks for your comment.

      They require NCC. I am not too concerned about this particular job position though. But since this came to my attention, I would like to resolve this, so it does not hang over my future and career.

      • Caped Baldy on 21/04/2023 - 16:28
        +7

        Doubtful that a speeding fine would impact job prospects.

        That said it might be worth following up with MPES and hire company for more details like who paid it or the card details in case someone did the dodgy and put your details down so they wouldn't get points on their licence. Did you check if the fine matched dates and vehicle when you were visiting Tasmania?

        • webtonmoy on 21/04/2023 - 16:32

          I did not receive a fine, so I can't match the vehicle. However, on the date mentioned in the NCC report, I was there in Tasmania, hence I am assuming that I may be guilty of the offence

          • Caped Baldy on 21/04/2023 - 16:52
            +1

            @webtonmoy: Does it say the date of the offence?

            Hire company receives the fine and are pretty good at following up otherwise they're liable.

          • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2023 - 09:24
            +4

            @webtonmoy: Maybe try to get the rental contract and the speeding camera fine/photo to see if it really is you/your car that was speeding. It could be a case of one of their employees speeding and then pinning it on an overseas patsy. No points and no money owed by rental company.

            • Caped Baldy on 24/04/2023 - 11:03

              @[Deactivated]: Thanks, I was trying to lead OP into thinking this but gave up.

              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

              • [Deactivated] on 24/04/2023 - 11:40
                +2

                @Caped Baldy: Horses and water hey?

      • brad1-8tsi on 21/04/2023 - 17:48
        +5

        so it does not hang over my future and career.

        I average a minor speeding fine every 4-5 years. All my jobs have required criminal checks and using company cars. There's never been a mention of my inability to stay under the speed limit.
        I believe they are looking for crimes have that have a mandatory court appearance.

  • sumyungguy on 21/04/2023 - 16:19
    +1

    Having been issued a DQ more than three years ago and experiencing the unwelcome impact on my insurability, I don't think a traffic infringement from 2016 will have any negative consequence… in case you're unable to get this resolved. With automated mobile phone, speed limit and red light enforcement so widely implemented, it's likely there are more people with a traffic history than not.

    • Gotchas on 24/04/2023 - 00:23

      How long did they refuse insurance for?

      • sumyungguy on 24/04/2023 - 07:19

        All of the main players won’t sell a new policy within 3 years of a DQ

  • JimB on 21/04/2023 - 16:48
    +16

    Does it matter?

    "EXCEED SPEED LIMIT BY 15 TO 22 KM/H" and the result of "$150.00 (3 Demerit points)" $150 is a bargain!

    • jv on 21/04/2023 - 17:07
      +38

      $150 is a bargain!

      I agree.

      This should be posted as a Deal, not a Forum topic.

      • JimB on 21/04/2023 - 17:10
        +4

        Victoria 10 km/h–24 km/h $363

        I must admit, wide clear stretch of road, I regularly go 10+ km/h over

        • HelpMeiCantSee on 22/04/2023 - 10:19
          +6

          You’re a murderer. Serial killer actually, every k over is a killer, to that’s 10+ you killed. Tsk tsk

          • JimB on 22/04/2023 - 11:11
            +1

            @HelpMeiCantSee: Bodies left on the road, left right and centre, wherever I drive

  • BewareOfThe Dog on 21/04/2023 - 17:29
    +2

    Worse scenario is that it will stay on their for another 3 years, so hopefully it will be spent sometime in 2026.

  • freefall101 on 21/04/2023 - 17:56
    +2

    Pretty annoying, since if you had have paid the fine you wouldn't have a criminal record (I'm assuming, in Victoria at least if you get an infringement and pay it you don't get any kind of conviction against you).

    No employer is going to not hire you over a speeding ticket, I've never seen anywhere that didn't have complete discretion over it. Although one thing to keep in mind is if you work overseas in the next couple of years some countries will do background checks and deny visas on certain convictions. I found that out when I got to the Canadian border - fortunately the speeding conviction I had wasn't a criminal offence in Canada so I was fine. They told me that people get pulled up on drink driving ones though, get convicted of that and you won't get a Canadian visa if they find out about it.

    • sumyungguy on 21/04/2023 - 22:05
      +3

      To get a criminal record you need to be convicted in court of a crime, speeding is only a traffic offence

  • deme on 21/04/2023 - 18:13
    +1

    Hold up!

    Did you pay for a "National Crime Check" just to apply for a job?

    • webtonmoy on 21/04/2023 - 18:26

      It came through some reference, and paying 50$ did not feel much.

      • deme on 21/04/2023 - 18:26
        +10

        WHAT? That seems like a massive scam

        • webtonmoy on 21/04/2023 - 18:28

          On second thought, it now feels a bit unusual to do so before I am offered the job. Btw, in my current industry, I do need to pay for 'working with children check' out of my own pocket, though it is a work requirement.

        • DoctorCalculon on 21/04/2023 - 19:31
          +1

          Indeed. I was asked to do submit my details for the NCC only after I signed the letter of offer.

  • payless69 on 21/04/2023 - 18:17
    +1

    Being faster in 2016 could mean to a good employer that you were more efficient.
    $150 paid or not is such a bargain that it should have a positive effect for your job.

  • elgrande on 21/04/2023 - 18:32
    +14

    Sorry OP, I don't associate with criminals.

  • Downvoter on 21/04/2023 - 18:36
    +2

    You can’t just pay to make things go away from your traffic history

  • morse on 21/04/2023 - 19:58
    +5

    Is it possible that it was actually someone who worked at the car rental company that was speeding, put your name against it, and paid the fine to avoid you finding out and demerit points from their license. They would have had all your details so all they have to do is forge your signature.

    • nfr on 21/04/2023 - 21:31

      That seems plausible. What's the benefit of doing it though?

      • morse on 21/04/2023 - 22:06

        If they were close to losing their license for other infringements

  • JIMB0 on 22/04/2023 - 09:07
    +2

    If you were going slower you might have noticed it.

  • solidussnake on 22/04/2023 - 09:50

    7 years.. .time to move on buddy

  • Hirolol on 22/04/2023 - 11:37

    When driving on an international licence you could rack up fines and not accumulate demerit points.
    They may have put the fine onto your international license and just paid it themselves.

    • HardQuiz on 22/04/2023 - 12:02

      That’s worse.

    • webtonmoy on 23/04/2023 - 11:43

      I think they fixed this years ago. Now they accumulate points on the international licenses too.

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