2TB M.2 SSD for $119
Its cheap and its good enough (for most)
Interface: PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3
Capacity: 2TB
Terabyte Written: >1000TB
Crystal Disk Mark: 2TB Read/Write: up to 1,800/1,500 MB/s
IOPS: 2TB Read/Write: 220K/200K IOPS Max
Team Group MP33 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 SSD $119 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ MSY
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How come this cheapo (?) has 1000 at 2tb capacity while others are lower at 200-400 for 1tb, so equivalent of 400-800 here.
Is this a different tech, quality?
Depends on what nand vendor and technology they're slapping in there.
I believe this one is still TLC, so it should have a little more endurance than QLC variants, and their vendor probably just lists a generous amount of write cycles in their datasheet.
That said, TBW is not a good indicator of expected lifetime of a drive. SSDs can still roll over and die spontaneously for other reasons. (From horrible firmware bugs eg. Samsung, Crucial, to just general budget crappiness)
I think there have been some anecdotes in the other deal threads of users drives just giving up the ghost a few months down the road.
@Namidairo: TBW is a reflection of the memory's endurance, and the amount of overprovisioning the drive includes.
It's also a statistical number. When one of the millions of cells fails, it's marked as bad and the 'spare' ones are used. Especially once all of the spare ones are gone, the integrity of the drive becomes compromised. How quickly that happens depends on luck, but after testing they estimate after X TBW the drive will run out of spare cells.
Other things however often cause an ssd to break, long before you "wear it out" - the controller dies, random capacitors etc pop, etc.
anything warranty is simply a marketing gimmick in the modern age. They (company marketing+accountants+lawyers) crunch the numbers to see what lies they can get away with, so that people think ohhhhh wow it's got a 5yr warranty it must be better…. not always.
He was making a joke. Saying that if there is already >1000tb written, are these used?
are msy and umart the same? same website UI
Yes. Umart bought msy maybe a year ago
Interesting! Did the customer service at MSY got better thanks to that? It used to be crap (years ago).
Their website certainly improved.
@povogamer: It's just how it was done ~20 or so odd years ago.
You wanted the parts and you wanted them cheap, you looked them up on the renowned PDF, walked in to join the queue at MSY with all the other hopefuls, "no stock!" as soon as you walk in, got zero service, then walked out with half of your parts. Good times.
A bit like the Seinfield soup kitchen really.
@jwh: parts.pdf has helped build me, my wife, and friends countless systems over the years. I mourn its loss!
@jwh: Parts.pdf was an efficient means of providing needed information while trimming all the useless marketing fluff (RTX this, RTX that).
Also nostalgia.
@deeby: Yep, it was no-nonsense stuff, perfect really. Except you never knew what was actually in stock.
What ssds are good for Nas?
For cache or storage?
Which nas?I'm using Samsung for cache in my Synology as it's one of the recommended ones
Qnap TS 464
Was thinking cache most likely
If you're using it as a write cache, optane would be the technically best choice. Anything with high endurance however is what you want, and personally I'd get it with dram 'just because'.
As a cache, especially write cache, size is less important. 1tb should seriously be plenty. The only time you'll really need a write cache is for small files, as hdds will typically be faster than the network in sequential writes. For small files, you don't need asich space. Even as a read cache, are you realistically going to have that many cache hits?
TLDR I'd go for a 1tb dram-equipped high endurance drive for about the same money.
My understanding is that it would entirely depend on your on how fast your NAS in in terms of receiving information from the network, i.e., computer.
NAS drives should be HDDs that have storage in the TBs range of 10s and 20s.
If your NAS has a m.2 slot, you should look for a drive that can write and read at speeds that are at or higher than the speed that the NAS can receive information… otherwise, it sorta defeats the purpose of M2s as cache on a NAS.
The main advantage would be for 4k writes. If you're copying over 100tb of tiny files, even a good ssd will struggle to saturate gigabit Ethernet.
Yeah but how fast is a NAS anyway unless it's hooked up over 10GB ethernet or thunderbolt 3/4 - or maybe wifi 7 with a robust connection..
If you're copying over 100tb of tiny files,
You can probably count on one hand the number of people who would ever do this 😁
Specs seem perfectly fine for a USB enclosure. $119 for 2TB is so cheap!
I wonder what happens when a drive which uses HMB is used in a USB enclosure where it can't access the host computer's memory directly as a cache.
Exactly my thought. I can't find anything on the internet about it. Really, it's just a performance hit especially on random io, and possibly a bit more wear on the ssd as it can't cache as well? (but the slc cache should catch most/all of that.
Same as DRAM less SATA drive in an enclosure? Lol
Yeah I think it'll just run like a DRAM-less drive - you can still use HMB drives in old-school machines with no HMB support and they still "work".
Same price from Umart.
this or the PNY one? for storing xbox one x game?
replace the HDD with a SATA ssd
Internal, you need a SATA SSD as Richardc pointed out.
External, since XBox One X only supports USB 3.2 gen 1 (also known as USB 3.0), there is no point chasing faster NVMe SSDs, so probably comes down to cost.
How would this fare as a boot drive? I know DRAM is usually preferred but is HMB good enough?
Absolutely fine if you're just using the machine for "normal" stuff.
Something something TBW, QLC, TLC, Dram…
Does it have a 4TB option?
received mine today and appear to be faulty. Cannot read/write after initial formatting.
have to deal with MSY tomorrow, regretted not buying from a better brand
Used?