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Panasonic 27L Flatbed Inverter Microwave (White NN-SF564WQPQ) $144.50 + Delivery ($0 with OnePass) @ Catch

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Panasonic 27L Flatbed Inverter Microwave (White NN-SF564WQPQ) $144.50 + Delivery ($0 with OnePass) @ Catch
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ozvictor on 29/03/2023 - 11:38 catch.com.au (2852 clicks)
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RRP $369, great price. Amazon is currently selling it for $289，it’s flatbed design so the internal cooking area is similar to a 34L.

Features:

Featuring an increased cooking space to use dishes of any form and size, this microwave features an innovative flat and wide design, giving you 31% larger cooking area when compared to conventional turntable models. The new Inverter Technology enables consecutive heating with low output, gently melting and softening foods like chocolate, cheese and ice cream.

Panasonic appliances
Model: Flatbed Inverter Microwave
Innovative flat and wide design with a larger cooking area
Inverter Technology with precise power control
Stylish linear design with an integrated door-open button
LED oven light
16 pre-programmed menu options
Simple user interface with touchpad display
Materials: Stainless steel
Power: 1000W
Model no.: NN-SF564WQPQ
Colour: White
Capacity: 27L
Dimensions (approx. cm):
Exterior: 52.9 x 32.6 x 42.2 (W x H x D)
Interior: 35.4 x 23 x 33.8 (W x H x D)
Weight (approx.): 11.8kg
1 YEAR MANUFACTURER REPLACEMENT WARRANTY

Electrical & Electronics Microwave Oven Panasonic

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  • davidvc on 29/03/2023 - 11:44

    Perfect :)

  • Daemonic on 29/03/2023 - 11:47
    +6

    I went through two of these in about 3 years, the first had half of the buttons just stop responding on the right hand side (so couldn't start cooking) and the other would start and then have a Magnetron error code after about 20 seconds (when our first child was mid-screaming about a bottle and couldn't warm it up quickly).

    Loved the space due to the no turntable but couldn't be bothered going for a third.

    • benny79 on 29/03/2023 - 11:58
      +2

      I had the same experience with the Magnetron error after about 18 months. The design is great if they can make them last longer

      • Daemonic on 29/03/2023 - 12:00
        +2

        Yeah it was disappointing, my parents swore by Panasonic when I was growing up with several that lasted 10+ years but not the case with this one.

        • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 12:03
          +6

          most older microwaves last a lot longer

      • absolutlegend on 29/03/2023 - 12:11
        +2

        Same here after 2 years. Called the company and told them I expected better from a apremium brand. Their best offer was I take it to their approved repairer. If it was a manufacturing problem, they would fix. If the repairer said it wasn't, I was liable for a $120 inspection fee. Seeing, the repairer has a financial benefit in siding with panasonic, I took that money and bought Kmart's top microwave and so far, going great.

        • denserham on 29/03/2023 - 13:05
          +1

          I just had kmarts top microwave fail after 13 months a week ago. Everything is crap now days.

          • techno2000 on 29/03/2023 - 16:08
            -2

            @denserham: Yes everything is crap nowadays because of being outsourced to cheapest country mostly China.

            Even branded clothes are of crap quality.

            Every single household item seems to be less quality than stuff from decades past.Things like furniture,Fans,white goods, the very structure of our houses even.

            • reu on 29/03/2023 - 17:53
              +5

              @techno2000: I agree with everything except the China comment.

              Surely the poor quality of products these days is due to the price sensitivity of consumers and our complacency regarding poor quality (we can't be bothered returning, don't avail ourselves of implied warranty etc). Probably other factors too. Too much going to landfill now.

              I imagine that the fact that China produces its fair share of crappy products is at least in part because westerners contract manufacturers to build products to an ever cheaper price.

            • ninohax on 29/03/2023 - 19:53

              @techno2000: It has nothing to do with China. It has more so to do with all companies being greedy af and intentionally lowering the quality of their products so that they don't last long and the customer comes back for the purchase sooner rather than later.

  • BargainsGrabber on 29/03/2023 - 12:03
    +8

    Got JB to price match the microwave and claim the bonus Tupperware via redemption

    • Mahip on 29/03/2023 - 12:13

      Same

    • staz on 29/03/2023 - 14:10

      This is the way

  • Trips on 29/03/2023 - 12:04

    My workplace has these flatbed Panasonics and in my experience it takes significantly longer to warm up food compared to my regular turntable Panasonic inverter (granted it is 1100W). My experience puts the flatbed at taking 50-100% longer to heat the same amount of food. You also need to pause and mix your food in the flatbed if you want evenly heated food.

    • ripsnorta on 29/03/2023 - 14:15
      +5

      I've got one of these and that hasn't been my experience. What a lot of people don't realise is that the magnetron is underneath the flatbed, so the food heats from the bottom up rather than the top down like other units. When you feel the top of the food it sometimes feels cool so you think it isn't working. The ones that heat from the top give the impression that they are heating faster, but they will have a cool spot underneath instead of on top.

      Mine is a bit slower than my old unit but only about 10% slower, which is because it is lower wattage.

      The two things I don't like about the Panasonic flatbed are the cooling fan and that you can only program it in 10s increments.

  • Jacko1235 on 29/03/2023 - 12:05

    This or the LG Neochef?

    • Mahip on 29/03/2023 - 12:12

      Neochef is twice as expensive at this price

      • Jacko1235 on 29/03/2023 - 12:14

        If they're both on sale which one would you buy. Current microwave is okay but is its way out so have time

    • placard on 29/03/2023 - 12:49
      +1

      Definitely the LG! LG make fantastic microwaves.

      • Daabido on 29/03/2023 - 13:16
        +1

        Unlike their washing machines, or adherence to Australian Consumer Law.

        • BJReplay on 29/03/2023 - 14:18

          Yeah, they just don't get it. I think I'll be going after them when I get back from a trip in May via VCAT. It will cost me to make them squirm, but your post confirmed that they have a systematic problem.

    • abadacus on 29/03/2023 - 13:30
      +2

      Neochef only lasts 12 months before dying

      • eug on 29/03/2023 - 13:49

        Bought my 42L Neochef refurbished from Grays in April 2019, it is still going fine with daily use nearly 4 years leater.

  • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2023 - 12:10
    -2

    I have a Panasonic microwave And you need to be a programmer to use one. Even cheap Kmart ones are easier to use.

    • Terencee on 29/03/2023 - 12:16

      I find it easy to press the 1 MIN button x 1, then START x 1.
      Sometimes 1 MIN x 2 if I want to burn my lips off.

      No complaints over here in programmer land.

      • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2023 - 12:18

        In my case, I have to select microwave and then 1 minute and then start. If I don't, it starts a timer instead. It's a microwave first and timer next FFS. With Kmart, I just press start button. Same on lg. Just 1 button. That's just beginning of the drama.

        • Terencee on 29/03/2023 - 12:20

          Oh you have a different model?
          I have the one listed - just go for times then start. Maybe they got the feedback and removed having to hit the "microwave" button before the timer.

          • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2023 - 12:31

            @Terencee: Yes different model. Even when adding time. I can't just press the minute or 10 seconds button. I have to press add time button and then it allows me to add only minutes. Not 10 seconds or 10 minutes button. Why is there even add time button when there is no subtract time button. And why only allow to add only 1 minute. Adding 1 minute to a microwave heating is equal to burning food.

    • idonotknowwhy on 29/03/2023 - 13:06
      +1

      Yeah it's interface is not intuitive is it? lol

  • soggypotato on 29/03/2023 - 12:22
    +1

    i bought this 2 years ago and the only feature i hate is the cooling fan goes up everytime after i use it which triggers ocd

    • Hinee on 29/03/2023 - 12:37

      Standard for inverter microwaves unfortunately.

      • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 12:44
        +1

        why inverter need fan but non inverter does not?

        it quite odd non inverter is more quieter due to no fan

        • placard on 29/03/2023 - 12:50

          Yeah I never worked that out?

          And it's not based on needing it by a sensor with Panasonic, simply the second time it finishes, the cool fan stays on, even if you only did two short bursts of use.

          I've found LG the fan is based on extended use so probably uses a sensor instead.

          • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 12:56

            @placard: inverter should also be more efficient in terms of power

            so if it needs 50% power, it can do that

            non inverter only can do 0 or 100%,
            so it needs to turn off and on as it is heating

    • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2023 - 13:25

      Luckily mine doesnt. Different model but inverter.

  • dr on 29/03/2023 - 12:39
    +1

    Pretty poor customer reviews https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/panasonic-nn-sf564…
    Roughly 1/3 of all reviews rated it 2 stars or less, 20%+ gave it one star only

    • eug on 29/03/2023 - 13:55
      +4

      ProductReview is a poor way to judge a product because it is a magnet for complaints - people typically only go there when they're frustrated with something so you'll only hear the negative comments.

      98% of users (arbitrary figure) might be totally satisfied with their microwave - they're not going to bother searching for an online forum just to write a post saying "My Panasonic microwave works fine. It heats food up." The remaining 2% will be far more likely to look for a website to write a negative comment because they're frustrated.

      If ProductReview was a reliable website, nobody should ever buy anything from Apple because they apparently have terrible customer service with 1.8 stars from 725 reviews.

      • dr on 29/03/2023 - 14:38

        You are correct that happy customers do not praise the product as much as dissatisfied ones complain about the bad one. But that applies equally to all products on ProductReview, so if we have product A with 10% bad reviews (e.g. 1 or 2 stars) and similar product B with 30% bad reviews, I think it is pretty obvious which one is lemon of the two (assuming similar sample size of responses for both).

        • eug on 29/03/2023 - 15:14

          But that applies equally to all products on ProductReview, so if we have product A with 10% bad reviews (e.g. 1 or 2 stars) and similar product B with 30% bad reviews, I think it is pretty obvious which one is lemon of the two (assuming similar sample size of responses for both).

          That assumption is the problem as it depends on the number of products sold (and how bothered people are about leaving comments).

          If Brand A is very popular and has sold 100,000 units, a 1% failure rate would mean there would be 1,000 dissatisfied customers out there. If Brand B sold 30,000 units and had the same 1% failure rate, there would only be 300 dissatisfied customers.

          You'll be more likely to hear more complaints from Brand A than B simply because there are more users out there even though the failure rate is the same.

          Since we don't know those numbers, it is not possible to form a meaningful conclusion from productreview.

          edit: I just re-read the above and it wasn't very clear. tl;dr - we don't know how many items Brand A and Brand B sold, so we don't know how representative the number of reviews on productreview are. What we do know is that people tend to complain more than praise on sites like productreview so perceptions of a brand will definitely be skewed towards the negative if that's all you read.

  • flumpf on 29/03/2023 - 12:39
    +5

    I have had one of these for six-plus years, used often several times a day and it still hasn't missed a beat. So, your mileage may vary.

    Now it'll probably die on me tonight… ;D

    • peanut48 on 29/03/2023 - 12:48

      Same. Have mine for almost 9 years I think. Great machine. Just doesn’t fit my pantry so has to sit on a cabinet. No complains. Easy to clean too.

      • absolutlegend on 30/03/2023 - 08:50

        The longer you have had one, the more likely the quality is better. Newer usually means lower quality build in my experience.

        • eug on 30/03/2023 - 14:46

          The longer you have had one, the more likely the quality is better.
          Newer usually means lower quality build in my experience.

          Have a look at survivorship bias. Today we only see the old products that were probably high quality back then, we don't see the cheap devices that failed because they have been thrown away.

          e.g. a 30L Panasonic microwave cost $387 in 1991. In the same ad you also see an Akai for $199. Today it's not surprising to hear of a Panasonic microwave from the 90s that still works, but you don't really hear about Akai microwaves that are still working even though cheaper devices usually sell more as they're more affordable to more people.

          $387 in 1991 is worth about $831 in 2022 according to the RBA. If we were to spend that sort of money today we'd be able to get something like this commercial Panasonic or this Birko that will probably last 20 years.

          • King Tightarse on 30/03/2023 - 19:15
            +1

            @eug: Good point eug, I can remember that when video first was commonly affordable in the early eighties, Panasonic was the go to brand at the time and you either got the roughly $600 dollar entry level model or the better $800 one ( probably head 4 heads) the cheaper models were so crappy.
            If you convert $800 into 2023 money https://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/annualDecimal.html that's the very rough equivalent of $2,770 today. So yes things were more solidly built but you paid for them! Buying a video was big deal.

  • mousie on 29/03/2023 - 12:40
    +1

    These don't hear food evenly and also had QC issues quite often they come up on clearance channels like GraysOnline and catch.

    Your microwaving may vary..

    • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 12:50

      isn't the turn table ones heat more evenly?

      • mousie on 29/03/2023 - 13:22

        Yes they do. You don't get to cook as much volume wise at once but a more even heating

        • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 14:26

          I never find that the turn table oven were lacking in volume..
          Usually it is just to reheat some bowl or dish of food and there is heaps of room.

          The cooking is done on a stove or oven..
          never cook anything microwave.

  • Fuzor on 29/03/2023 - 12:45

    Is there a reason why they cant make all microwaves a flatbed? I got my 44L Pana microwave based on looks but it still has a turntable!

    • KentT on 29/03/2023 - 13:26
      +2

      This still has a turntable under the microwave floor, which is why the base is much thicker than on a normal microwave.

      Instead of spinning the food on a plate, it effectively spins the microwaves using a hidden metal propeller under the floor that reflects microwaves in different directions as it revolves.

      Compared to normal microwaves, they’re easier to clean, and can fit bigger rectangular containers inside - including a complete Domino’s pizza box.

      • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 14:30
        +2

        If food has spilled over, remove and cleaning a glass turntable is easier.

        If the food has dried and stick to these flatbed, that would be hard to clean and you can scratch the are

        why would people microwave with a complete pizza box?

        also better to use an air fryer for pizza reheating that microwave which loses the crispiness of the pizza

        • Antikythera on 29/03/2023 - 16:10

          loses the crispness

          I love my Convection Microwave for this very reason. can do combo reheating so it warms with microwaves and crisps with convection.

          • pinkybrain on 29/03/2023 - 18:03

            @Antikythera: i use air fryer…to get crispyness

            what setting do you use on microwave that does this and how it compares to airfryer?

            is convection microwave just the normal microwave that is not the inverter microwave?

            • Duff5000 on 29/03/2023 - 20:42

              @pinkybrain: No. Convection uses…. er… convection to cook :)

              Can also cook the same way as a regular microwave.
              Think of it like an air fryer crossed with a microwave. Blows how air on the food and microwaves it.

              An inverter microwave can modulate the output. If you set a regular microwave to 50% power if just cycles off and on half the time. An inverter can just output less power.

      • Fuzor on 29/03/2023 - 17:23

        Oh wow never knew that was the case with these. Guess technology havent evolved enough to not just have the flatbed as a facade.

  • bio on 29/03/2023 - 12:46
    +8

    I have this microwave but I wouldn't recommend it, because:

    Cons:

    1. It takes longer to heat your food when compared to a decent turntable one
    2. It doesn't evenly heat, so you should either mix or rotate the plate halfway through (which defats the purpose of inverter).
    3. The inner light stays on forever unless you close the door
    4. The door lock is too stiff (maybe mine is faulty), my kids can't close it.
    5. Horrible user interface, no numeric keypad (only 10 min, 1 min, and 10 sec buttons). You can't add more seconds while it's running. You can only do multiples of 10 seconds etc.

    Pros:

    1. It heats up your food.
    • eug on 29/03/2023 - 14:40
      +1

      It doesn't evenly heat, so you should either mix or rotate the plate halfway through (which defats the purpose of inverter).

      I did find that too when I tested a Panasonic flatbed compared to an LG and Sharp. I'm "glad" real-life results reflect that as well.

      • bio on 29/03/2023 - 14:51
        +1

        Nice heat map, it pretty much aligns with my taste (or temperature-sensing) buds.

  • GenghisGun on 29/03/2023 - 12:48
    +2

    why would they omit an instant start feature? isnt that the most used button on every microwave???

  • King Tightarse on 29/03/2023 - 12:50

    I bought it to give a go bc the price is good but Product review is very up and down about this model.

  • idonotknowwhy on 29/03/2023 - 13:05

    This one is annoying if you use 2.4ghz devices (older devices or when you need long-range wifi, or bluetooth headsets/controllers, baby monitors, etc).
    I had a Samsung before this and it never interfered, but with this one, all 2.4ghz devices shit the bed while it's running.
    Regret buying it and secretly hope it breaks so I can justify replacing it with a Samsung again.

    Edit: An I say this as someone who really likes Panasonic generally and dislikes Samsung.

  • Kegsta on 29/03/2023 - 13:12
    +5

    I have a similar version, absolute piece of crap.

    About 1 in 5 time it won't start cooking unless you slam the door. Crap functions, hard to add time to already cooking.

    My 15 year old $80 Breville with a physical handle was so much better.

  • bagachin on 29/03/2023 - 13:20
    +5

    Boi…do I hate this microwave….still have it and can’t wait to get rid of it…

    The noisey fan stays on for quite sometime after it’s done and the UI is so annoyingly inconvenient…

    • idonotknowwhy on 29/03/2023 - 15:04
      +1

      Sucks but I'm glad I'm not the only one. I can't wait for it to stop working lol.
      What are you going to buy when yours dies?

  • Daddy Chill on 29/03/2023 - 13:43

    What's the best microwave for about $50

    • Hangryuman on 29/03/2023 - 13:44
      +1

      KMark Anko not break the banko

      • Daddy Chill on 29/03/2023 - 13:46

        Sweet just need to heat up kids food not using for much else

        • mousie on 29/03/2023 - 14:17

          Fisher price with eneloops

  • Hangryuman on 29/03/2023 - 13:44
    +1

    looks like it has two of my pet hates - touch panel which is not as reliable as a push button

    and text on black background which is so cool looking I can't read it

    so that's a nah from me

    I'm hoping the bottom right white rectangle is a nice easy button to open the door tho' - dunno

  • Boogerman on 29/03/2023 - 13:49

    Got the Sharp flatbed inverter 32L in stainless steel for $250 at The Good Guys

    • Daddy Chill on 29/03/2023 - 14:03

      When and how

      • Boogerman on 29/03/2023 - 18:58
        +1

        4 weeks ago. Asking…politely

  • zarbicore on 29/03/2023 - 15:54
    +1

    I have this microwave or one similar and I love it. Going strong after 9+ months so far.

  • teddiebear on 29/03/2023 - 18:04

    Hmmm i don't think i've put ice cream in a microwave BUT i do remember microwave thickshakes. Frozen drink put in a microwave to heat for a certain time to defrost for the perfect thickness of thickshake.

  • diguinBR on 29/03/2023 - 18:33
    +2

    Got JB to price match, used $10 perks discount + 15% gift cards, brought it down to $115. bargain!

  • Poor Ass on 30/03/2023 - 01:08

    Issue with these panny microwaves is the latch

    Overtime the button that opens door doesn't disengage the latch

    Would prefer pull handle

  • lonewolf on 15/04/2023 - 11:00

    Microwave arrived looking refurbished and rattling fan whenever it operates. My mum's exact model doesn't have this issue and was packed a bit differently.

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