Looks like the Tesla referral program aka "Loot box" has restarted,
"As an owner, every time you bring a new friend or family member into the Tesla community, you and your friend both earn credits — you earn Referral Credits and your friend earns Buyer Credits. You also earn Loyalty Credits when you purchase additional qualifying Tesla products, as a thank you for being a loyal Tesla owner."
Example "1500 credits for 750km supercharging credits"
Referee gets $1400 off Model Y & 3 purchase.
Referrer gets $700 credit toward Supercharging, software upgrades, merchandise, service payments or a new vehicle. Limit of 10 referral benefits per calendar year.
Thanks op, ordered 10. You should get 15k credits now
If I order 100 will I get 150k??!! wow ozBARG
"every time you bring a new friend or family member into the Tesla community"
Sounds like a cult to me.
one of us, one of us
They're trying to Elongate the cult
We Musk resist the urge to join
We Musk resist the surge to join**??
@Jessie Ryder: It's not even a pun, (but i agree).
The first reply was
They're trying to Elongate the cult
^ that's a pun
We Musk resist the urge to join
^ Not a pun, just reaching and misspelling a word trying to be pun-adjacent
@ssfps: You mean, they aren't punny
An accurate statement
What should we call these? lame
Sounds like a cult to me.
Rule 1. Thou shalt conclude that all hero cave divers are pedophiles.
Elons fellowship is a cult. Heads completely buried in the sand
If it sounds like cult & tweets like cult - it's CULT ;)
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na, Batman, I mean Leader, I mean Elon!
I love the leader
Pyramid Scheme. That's how Elon makes your money.
Thx op, Ordered S3XY
Hyundai did it first with the ix35 (look at the badge inverted)
Noice
Thx mods for adding!
Hahaha
Now we know, how many tesla owners in Ozb. Brilliant 😅
Added my referral link - 188 and counting
Soooooooooooo not worth the hassle. Refer a friend to get a free charge? Joke
“Your credits expire 12 months and Supercharging miles expire 6 months from their respective Grant Dates.”
so can’t save up credits for 10 years and do a dignified road-trip in retirement or leave to your children when you die ….
“And to Timmy I leave my 50,000KM worth of free Tesla super charging”.
Remember not to accumulate more that $3mil in supercharger credits in your super fund, Labor will have you paying tax.
Where's your OzB spirit?!!
/s
As opposed to what you get for referring your mate to buy a Toyota?
You get a mate who doesn't complain that you convinced him to buy a crap car?
Model 3, the Toyota Camry of 2022.
I don't think that is a bad thing
No Camrys are reliable
No, Camrys are reliable.
No, Camrys are reliable
I wish landcruisers were as reliable as Camrys
Friends don't let friends do Tesla.
You are not my friend
Link has virus, not clicking
Love that song.
“I was thinking that you needed a break, what I meant was every bone in your face”
New to match the price cuts offered in China without wasting time offering referral credits
the australian EV market is still young and not much competition with floor stock vs 12 maths waiting list (BMW) we aren’t getting the best other manufacturers e.g VW, merc , bmw have to offer or the lower wait times like overseas , gov talks ev but policy to promote ev idon’t follow.
also exchange rates ….most things in asia traded in US dollars ….
True but it's not like our population is the most EV friendly. Remember when 'war on the weekend' persuaded most of the nuffies out there.
Unfortunately we have a significant population that seems hellbent on idealising hillbilly lifestyles. I can see why manufacturers just don't even bother when you account for logisticsand desire.
Imagine if we didn't shut down car manufacturing plants and negotiated being a centre for EV manufacturing for us and Asia.
Not too late. If the WA governments battery manufacturing strategy gets implemented and can attract major battery manufactures, I think we might have a competitive advantage to manufacture EV in Australia. Currently we are in a sorry state just exporting raw materials without any value adding activities
Which gov tho? Seems like some states are hell bent on taxing EVs and slow adoption.
Example "1500 credits for 750km supercharging credits"
So buy a $80,000 car, get a free tank of gas.
Electricity. Not many cars in Australia use LPG anymore.
Great way to bait the fragile EV owners!
Car manufacturers are the only sector being forced to do something with global warming, energy sectors are so relaxed, yet burning coals.
There aren't enough lithium & cobalt molecules on the planet to electrify the world's vehicle fleet in 2023, let alone in 10 years from now. Going electric is a meme dream the car retailers are selling gullible inner city dwellers to make them feel better about the remainder of their consumerism.
You might need to replace the battery after 20 years. By that time you save that money.
You save much more if you buy BYD or other Chinese brands (leaders in EVs).
i’d rather replace battery in 20 years and save on petrol and less complexity of electric motors vs ICE
You save on petrol but not the upfront cost. Say you buy a $20,000 car Vs a $80,000 Tesla. How long do you think you gonna need to save to make up for the $60,000 difference not to mention you could've used that $60,000 to invest. Which will make it longer to make up that difference. Also Tesla's still are pretty costly for maintenance.
plenty of failed batteries on TMC if you search. $20k USD to get a new replacement.
That's cheaper than a replacement engine for many luxury cars.
@Nom: Haven't seen or read too many cars needing complete replacement engines (other than those extremely tuned). Usually a component fails but the whole engine is not destroyed. Whereas the battery in Teslas needs a whole unit when it fails.
I wouldn't touch a Tesla close to or after its 8 year battery warranty expires. What happens when battery design changes? How are you going to get replacement battery for a 10 + year old EV? Engine components can be made and left in storage for years. You can't leave a battery pack in storage for years, even if you connect it to a charger. It will degrade and so Tesla won't be making batteries to fit old cars in the future.
Oh and I have looked extensively at the model 3 and model Y considering their FBT benefits. They ARE NOT luxury cars.
@slowmo: Whilst that can be bad, it's a maintenance item and if the motor has been regularly serviced and the belt has been replaced as scheduled at each 80-100k km, the chance of a motor destroyed by a broken timing belt is very remote. Those that fail are engines that have been neglected. There is nothing you can do to reduce the chance of a dud battery of an EV failing and giving you a huge bill.
I would be happy to buy an semi expensive 8 year old ICE with 180000km on the clock if the motor is still running well and the timing belt was changed at 100000km. If the history is uncertain, I'd just organise a new belt installed.
I would not consider an EV at the same circumstance, ie 8 yrs old and has 180000km on the original battery!
The resale of these EV's will be disastrous.
Usually a component fails but the whole engine is not destroyed.
The engine wears out as it's used. Eventually it needs a complete rebuild, in the same way that you eventually need to replace dying cells in a battery pack.
the battery in Teslas needs a whole unit when it fails.
No, if your battery actually fails, you'll get it repaired at a specialist - there's plenty in the US already, and as the EV market grows in Australia you should expect them to arrive here too.
How are you going to get replacement battery for a 10 + year old EV?
Exactly the same way you tackle a new engine for an old car - you buy used, you get it repaired, you get it rebuilt, or some combination of the three.
You don't try to buy a brand new engine from the dealer for an old car.
One good thing about the advanced batteries in a Tesla is that they do a pretty good job of tracking their own capacity and wear. With the right data, it's much less of a gamble buying a used battery than a used engine.
Tesla won't be making batteries to fit old cars in the future.
They don't need to - EV batteries are comprised of a large number of individual battery cells. There's any number of specialists that will replace the individual cells as required.
You can also upgrade your battery in the same way - in the US you can buy significantly more powerful battery packs for the Nissan Leaf - they're using newer battery technology in the old battery packs.
Oh and I have looked extensively at the model 3 and model Y considering their FBT benefits. They ARE NOT luxury cars.
I didn't say they were ?
If you're buying a Tesla, you're probably cross shopping against BMW/Mercedes/Audi - these are the repair costs you're comparing against.
@Nom: "No, if your battery actually fails, you'll get it repaired at a specialist" - that's wishful thinking.
""The repairability of this [Model Y 4680 battery pack] is essentially zero," quipped Cory from Munro & Associates, as it took his experienced team two days to simply access the inside of the battery which Tesla showed a cutout of during the Texas Cyber Rodeo. While every EV battery repair involves precautions necessitated by the high voltage of the packs, the delay here was also due to the fact that the new EV battery cell-to-chassis designs are an integral part of the vehicle's body structure."
"They don't need to - EV batteries are comprised of a large number of individual battery cells. There's any number of specialists that will replace the individual cells as required." - again idealistic but not realistic (and I am assuming you mean modules and not cells).
"Jason Hughes (of WK057), who has performed the same repair before, has said that the new modules will result in an imbalance every time at some point. He says that unless the owner leaves the car alone for weeks at a time, it will likely not last a year.", "“At this point, I just explain to customers that this isn't a viable fix. Instead, we just sell them a full replacement pack " - as well as increasing fire risk!!!
"it's much less of a gamble buying a used battery" - Tesla can monitor its batteries and degradation rate, but can't predict when any number of components in the battery pack fails, and given a high number of individual cells in the battery as well as many electrical chips, controllers, and electrical welds, the risk is not small !!!
I wonder how many people will actually keep the same car for 20 years. Doesn't seem to be a common thing nowadays.
That's because many modern petrol engine cars don't last 20 years - those days are long gone. The average life is somewhere between 10-15 years for a modern car.
@Nom: From my experience, many people upgrade their cars after 5 years, because they want something shiny and new to impress their friends.
I once worked with someone who would buy a new car on finance, drive it for 2 years until the value had significantly depreciated, then sell it and buy another new car on finance. Rinse and repeat. She didn't even have a well paying job…
I shudder to think about how much debt she's in.
Surely skynews tells you every night.
And what is the cost to replace the battery?
What a strange question, do you also ask about the cost of a replacement engine in your petrol cars? Hint : it's significantly more than $20 Km for some vehicles…
Not really a strange question, the battery would last on average 10years or so, a ICE engine last over 100 years. i.e. current batteries are a scam. I was make a point that electric cars currently are even worse for the environment.
the battery would last on average 10years or so, a ICE engine last over 100 years
If you're using a 10,000KM per year as an average annual distance, you think an average Tesla battery would be end of life after 100,000K and an average petrol engine would last until 1,000,000Km ?!
You're just arguing in bad faith, these figures are nowhere close to reality.
Buy BYD Dolphin (soon) & you will save $24,000+, then share the savings with me ;)
I'm waiting for ~<$25,000 BYD Seagul (available in China for $13 - 21k + AU dealer grabs)
Can you buy the seagull then import it here
As long as you feed mcdonalds fries 🍟
Only if you hide them in your pants at airport quarantine.
Probably not cheap & then support…but watching for options.
I need small practical EV with reasonable price for mostly city driving.
BYD atta is fugly
BYD Dolphin is exactly what I'm waiting for. I've read that it's estimated price should be around $35,000.
Pay a bit more and get the MG4.
Yep plus they actually exist here. Relying on importers for BYD was enough to put me off (once my car got on the boat haha)
I had a ZS as a rental and it was the biggest piece of garbage I’ve ever driven.
I hope their EV offerings are better appointed.
@Manny Calavera: I have the ZS EV 2022. Yes it is no where near my other car Kluger Grande. But for its purpose, city drive, point A to B, it is fine.
I dont expect much for a 42k ev. at least on the running cost (1000km so far), it saved me quite a bit. Total spending on electricity is about $25 from home charging and various free charging stations.
@od810: $42k for a piece of shit Chinese junker when you can buy a Corolla SX Hybrid for sub $40k. I daresay resale difference on the Corolla will more than offset any difference in the savings between 100% EV & hybrid.
@Ham Dragon: Well i was considering toyota hybrid but waiting time for one is over 12months. As of now, resale value of EV is still very good even the MG. Time will tell whether the MG is junk or not. But i take a punt with 7 year warranty.
Imagine what the investment of the difference (~$24k) will do to your well-being vs your growing knowledge wealth. I need small & practical city car (mostly sitting vulnerable outside & needs expensive insurance), with rear wiper & max utilisation of storage - I dislike sedans.
You’re comparing then based on the fact they’re both EV’s. There are so many other reasons to get a Tesla.
New car musk?
That's what the Mercedes fans think but Mercedes sells significantly less because there are much better value for money cars that serve individual needs (not wants or show off).
Imagine what the investment of the difference (~$24k) will do to your well-being vs your growing knowledge wealth. I need small & practical city car (mostly sitting vulnerable outside & needs expensive insurance), with rear wiper & max utilisation of storage - I dislike sedans. For going to the city I combine bicycle with train. I also need practical car storage for taking the bicycle in the car. Sedans are pathetic & no back wipers :( autopilot is still not ready for Australia).
https://www.carsguide.com.au/byd/atto-3/vs/tesla-model-3
Yeah so maybe it doesn’t suit your needs, but it’s silly to compare the tech in a Tesla to a BYD. Btw, do you mean auto pilot or FSD?
You basically assumed everyone has the knowledge or the habit of investing excess cash into something useful 🤷♂️.
@sauce2k: Investing in knowledge is the safest. You never lose & you can share for social advantage. There's optimum (eg. $120k/yr) need for money, but the more you know the more valuable you feel.
individual needs (not wants or show off).
Imagine what the investment of the difference (~$24k) will do to your well-being vs your growing knowledge wealth.
Whilst a great theory, that's going to be a pretty dull way to get through life - sometimes you just want the best 👌
Take the referral link out and use the forum post to request adding the refferal link