Team. Son is looking for a gaming PC and is looking at this one - Allied Patriot-I: Core i5-12400F | RTX 3070 8GB Gaming PC $2199
Thoughts on value?
Better options from BPC Technology etc?
Thanks
Team. Son is looking for a gaming PC and is looking at this one - Allied Patriot-I: Core i5-12400F | RTX 3070 8GB Gaming PC $2199
Thoughts on value?
Better options from BPC Technology etc?
Thanks
Doh.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/757616
Much better RTX 3080 PC for the same price.
Sweet, thanks Mr.. I've been out of the building my own PC gig for far too long these days :(
Hes coming from a ROG-STRIX-RX5700-O8G-GAMING, 32g DDR4 3200 MHz and AMD Ryzen 5 3600
much improvement?
What is the issue with the existing PC? Seems pretty decent on those specs.
yea graphics seem to be maxing out on games
@pharkurnell: Maybe just get a new graphics card then (assuming that is the bottleneck)?
@djkelly69: Thanks Mr.. Appreciate ya help… I'll let him know.
Im sure I've seen somewhere you can wack in specs and see bottle necks… ?
@pharkurnell: Unfortunately it's not that simple.
Every game is different, some will hit the GPU hard while others will are CPU intensive. Sometimes both.
It will also depend on resolution, refresh rate and graphics quality settings. Furthermore, things like DLSS muddy the waters by doing smart upscaling that is near indistinguishable in video quality but only in supported games
Those "bottleneck calculators" might give you a basic idea but are pretty unreliable as you can't boil down a bottleneck to a single percentage figure
@FireRunner: That's not entirely true, there are bottleneck calculators that will give you a per-game figure: https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-i…
Oh he already has a PC with those specs.
He would be able to simply upgrade that PC with a newer CPU like a 5600x and a new GPU like the RTX 4070 ti or 7900xt for about the same price as the above PC, Motherboard would require a bios update, PSU has to be at least 700w and the case you have currently would have to fit the new GPU.
What monitor are you planning to use?
pair of Samsung Odyssey G5 QHD VA 144Hz Freesync Curved Monitor 27"
@pharkurnell: https://i.ibb.co/YhVWz9q/Screenshot-2023-02-23-120358.png
A 4070 ti would be perfect for those monitors as you can see from the 1440p 16 game average in the screenshot above from Hardware unboxed review for the 4070 ti.
Could you please share what motherboard, PSU and case you currently have?
@Axelstrife: Thanks Mr.. Appreciate ya help… I'll let him know.
@pharkurnell: No worries
btw RTX 4070 ti is $1299 and a 5600x $259 (or if your budget can be higher a 5800x3d is the better choice but it's $520)
@Axelstrife: yea been lookin out for a deal on the x3D but rare as rocking horse
@pharkurnell: $520 is the best right now, it's on Amazon AU from Amazon US.
@Axelstrife: What brands are good these days in GPU… many I havent heard of
@pharkurnell: Msi and Asus seems to be the best now that EVGA no longer makes GPUS, followed gigabyte then the the rest in no particular order.
They all perform relatively the same so the differences is cooling (mostly quieter fans) and aesthetics.
Imo go for whatevers cheapest and doesnt look like crap.
@Axelstrife: Sweet….
Yea the case lives under the desk, so looks don't matter to me
much diff in 2 or 3 fan models (going back to last time I built a PC)
@pharkurnell: I don't think there is a two fan RTX 4070 ti or 7900xt but two fan generally means more noise and high temps due to a smaller heatsink.
@Axelstrife: ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING mobo..
PSU I'd have to look when I got home
The 5600 is within 3% the performance while being considerably cheaper than the 5600x
Also, not sure the 5600 is a worthwhile upgrade from the 3600.
The 5800X3D would be a worthwhile upgrade but still quite pricey.
Note: you linked to Allied Gaming US Site, so prices are in USD. (Here's the AU Link)
PS: Allied Gaming AU is the parent company for TechFast.