DELL S2721DGF, 27 Inch Gaming Monitor, QHD (2560 x 1440) up to 165Hz, 1ms Response Time, AMD FreeSync Premium Pro, VESA HDR400, Colour Grey.
Not cheapest ever, so hold out if don't need one straight away. Can get Dell to price match also.
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I’m looking for a new monitor in this price range. I don’t game much, would I be better going for a 4K monitor with lower hz (S2722QC for example) or a monitor more like this deal with lower res but higher hz?
You'll likely prefer the higher refresh rate, but this is so overpriced you're dipping into 4K 144Hz-165Hz territory.
Wait for better deals, and if your budget is approaching $600 understand that in 2023 you should expect FHD 360Hz (TN/IPS), QHD 240Hz (IPS/VA) and UHD 165Hz (IPS/VA) for that price, at least for entry level LCD offerings.
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I have two s2721dgf and they are thoroughly mediocre compared to today's offerings at the price point and when I got them years ago they still didn't post wins across the board vs my overclocked qnix. The biggest issues for me are that it's HDR is unusable— it has low peak brightness and about 8 dimming zones— and its black levels tend toward hazy greys and create a sunbleached impression.
If you have the time it's best to figure out what res you want and then look up ratings or watch monitors unboxed/hardware unboxed roundups on YouTube.
Would recommend TFTCentral and PCMonitors.Info over RTings, but otherwise I'm onboard with your comments. And yeah, lot of people in monitor deals who just do not do basic product research.
MiniLED is the bare minimum for reasonable HDR in monitors, but I would recommend just waiting for OLED options and securing something late cycle. Think $700ish for a 27" QHD 240Hz from LG later this year.
Crossing my fingers that Samsung's 2023 QD-OLED lineup has a 27" QHD option that has 90% rec.2020 colours to go with the increased 240Hz they're promoting.
@jasswolf: I'll have to add those sites to my list for next time.
I'm on that oled shrink wait myself.
@Alcaro: Shrink is done on LG's side, just probably going to start at $1500 before sliding down fairly quickly to $1000-$1200.
But yeah unlikely to have BFI, and LG's colour gamut is locked to 100% DCI-P3, instead of the 90% rec.2020 Samsung is capable of (but didn't use in the 2022 panel).
@jasswolf: If only the lg oled was $700. But i doubt it will even be near $700 towards the end of the year. I may be wrong though.
@King181: I wouldn't be getting the matte-finish model from LG anyway, as from most reports it's grainy. I think the mild burn-in potential dimishes the value proposition enough to see it slide into the bottom of premium QHD 240Hz territory, which should be sitting at that price point towards the end of this year.
Samsung G7 getting down to $600 before being discontinued is a good guide for where things can go. It's also competing against Samsung QD-OLED, two or three miniLED implementation types, and WOLED/QD-OLED TVs (albiet at 120/144 Hz).
First gen tech means zero in this case, particularly if you're trying to capture mindshare before 2 more panel manufacturers spring up with affordable inkjet-printed OLED tech. Even then, these are really 2nd or 3rd gen tech from LG and Samsung purely from a monitor perspective.
@jasswolf: Good point. Tbh, i would be happy with samsung's neo mini led tech, shame they dont make 27inch 240hz ips ones.
Yes, i agree this is horribly value and that you shouldn't buy it.
Interms of the new panels, unfortunate 1440p 27inch 360hz/240hz will still be priced really high.
A better alternative to this would be the aw2721d which recently was $100 more but for some reason i cant find it anymore.
For non-gaming purposes I'd say yeah, go a 4K. For gaming it depends on what games you play, your PC specs, and if you're fine with upscaling like FSR or DLSS.
As for refresh rate it's hard to say. 60Hz to 120 is really noticeable to me but haven't demoed anything higher so can't judge there. That said, if you're used to 60 Hz you're not going to miss what you don't yet know. Even after demoing and using higher refresh on mobile devices, my brain adapts quickly. I'd say higher refresh rates matter more for games than other uses where it amounts to "wow look how smooth moving the cursor and scrolling webpages looks".
For me it’s resolution. Resolution improves every aspect of my workflow - text is so much clearer, I’ve got more room to work with, and it’s better for photo and video editing, which I do for work and pleasure.
Whereas, higher frame rates, while improving UI smoothness and scrolling, don’t have that much of an impact. (I also don’t game.)
Plus, as we tend to keep monitors for a long time, do you still want to be using 1440p in 5 years?
Not a great price for a now pretty average panel. Lots of equivalent 165hz IPS panels for cheaper.
Please do share equivalent, in stock, with 3 years support.
Better monitor (2021 panel update from LG, versus 2019 panel in Dell): https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/lg-ultrage…
But there's not much else because there was two months of sales and we're about to see a series of new releases, starting in a week or two or most.
Current models will begin to drop price, probably as clearance stock comes in as part of the same shipments as the new stock.
I'm of the opinion this is $300 monitor these days - and that updated LG is worth $370 max - so definitely do not buy.
Which upcoming models would you recommend to watch out for to get instead of the 27GP850?
@placebo36: Really depends on your use case. If you have the need for a colour accurate productivity bend in your workflow and can't afford glossy OLED, that's really the only time you should be looking at IPS right now, though I'm yet to see technical data on updated 240Hz & 360Hz IPS panels.
Just be sure to dodge matte-finish OLED, and if you get an LG WOLED panel for your OLED solution, make sure it's using MLA (LG Display META) to enhance the brightness.
Samsung's 240Hz VA is top tier if you want something affordable for movies and gaming, and we've got 360Hz & 500Hz TN for those who just want their frames fast. I'd probably err on the side of 360Hz TN for now, as I would expect the response times of the 500Hz+ models to barely be any better, but I don't know what back array they're using to drive the panel.
If 500Hz TN is able to post a 1.5ms response time average (i.e. 90-95% of response measurements under 2ms), expect a premium for the execution of that technology.
the one you linked is $677?
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Very good monitor and price. My brother bought it and uses it with his PS5. Great monitor for those who don't care about HDMI 2.1
Has been much cheaper via Dell :)
For refrence the lowest this monitor has been is $369
I have 2 of these - they sit either side of my AW3418DW.
The panels on them are better than the old Alienware’s panel, but I’m sure there are much better panels available today. However I only paid $399 each for them.
Got mine in June 2021, beware the annoying black screen bug where it simply will not wake from sleep without power cycling the monitor (pulling the power cord). I have no idea whether this has been resolved in later releases.
Weren't these on sale every 2-3 months for like <400?
Great monitor, but I paid $390. Not sure ours worth that much more.
I'm in the market for a decent monitor to be used with a M1 MacBook pro. Usage is for programming.
Do you guys have any suggestions in mind that's around $500 or less? Thanks in advance!
This would be going on final clearance soon as the model is 2-3 years old and the panel tech is 4. This price is LG 27GP850 sale territory, which has notably faster response times and is also due for a refresh.
The prices on staple Dell offerings are staying high because of a combination of low stock and now over-recommendation due to the previously low prices on this and their similar VA model.
Lots of new releases this year, including the option of better FHD 360Hz (IPS and TN) not far from this price, so bare minimum wait for a better deal.