Hi All,
I have Kia Carnival 2019 MY20. Time to replace tyres. Size 235/55R19 105W. As car is heavy (nearly 2200kg) I need a suitable tyre which will provide good all season road grip, less noise and long life span.
Any suggestion?
Need New Tyres - Size 235/55R19 105W
wrx5 on 16/12/2022 - 12:07
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less noise and long life span
Watch out for those potholes.
Ask your local tyre dealer
They are the experts, Not us
But I strongly suggest you stay with original tyre type and rating as they are designed for your car
Winrun, cause everybody loves to live in fear.
Looks like very cheap. tempting :)
Cheap is usually a bad thing with tyres.
Considering it's a FWD van, definitely not a good idea to skimp on tyre quality.
Tyroola ! That would be my first stop .
about 3 weeks too late for the MyCar half priced Pirelli's.
I got my fitted a couple of days ago.
Having said that I can recommend Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season that I got fitted on my SUV.
How many KMs has your car done? Originals are Kumho?
it is around 54000kms now. Not sure what brand it has right now.
I got a set of Pirelli Scorpion ATP's last black friday and they've been ok, have gone about 30,000kms. They were great at first, but after around 20,000kms became very noisy compared to my previous all terrains. Super loud now around 70kph, but they seem more durable so I guess that is the trade off.
I just checked. Current ones are NEXEN. Never heard of it
Nexen are Korean.
Makes sense they fit a Korean tyre on a Korean car.
Nexen aren't the worst tyre out there, but I wouldn't put them on my car. They are fair to average at best.
I'd stick to the better brand tyres- Bridgestone, Pirelli, Continentals, Yokohama, Dunlop, Michelin etc. I've left out Kumho on purpose.
half price tyres are nice but hard to come by.
Is there any real difference between the branded ones and Winrun?
"Is there any real difference between the branded ones and Winrun?"
In the wet, probably a close call and an insurance claim.
Winrun is a brand
Yup, a very shitty one.
source?
@brownsound: Me. I put one set on years ago and they were the worst tyre I have ever put on a car. Noisy, piss poor grip, uneven wear, poor ride quality. I had them on for about 3~4000km and they were shot and needed replacing.
We have customers come in who have put Winrun tyres on their cars and we are telling them they need new tyres only after about 10,000km of driving.
We had a customer bring their car to us because of a wheel bearing noise that other shops were unable to rectify after replacing all 4 wheel bearings and the rear diff bearings. I saw she had Winrun tyres on her car, I took them off and put a spare set of not-Winrun tyres on and the noise was gone.
Had another customer who could never get his wheel alignment right. I personally tweaked it to within 0.1% of manufacture specs. Car kept pulling left and right. Would never track straight. Uneven wear across the front and rear tyres. All Winrun tyres. Removed them and put the spares on, car tracked straight and drove like new without even doing another alignment.
Winrun are straight pure (fropanity) garbage. If someone rings me about alignment or road related noise, my first questions is "Do you have Winrun tyres on it?". I know of two of the local tyre joints that wont even touch Winrun tyres if a customer brings them in to get fitted because they "dont need the headache."
@pegaxs: If I see a car for sale with Winrun or some other cheap tyres, I’d think twice as I’d also wonder if they have cheapened out on maintenance too.
I shudder when I remembered seeing a 2yo Porsche SUV with Winrun 20 inch tyres lol
@JimB: I have been using a couple of 'premium' Vikings in my car and they have been ok for 50k but now needs to be replaced though. I don't think I will do going to track anytime soon or doing 120km per hour on the rain in a windy road.
It's right in the name - Winrun, you'll win the race by running .. because your tyres blew and you can't drive anymore.
Personally I just bought a second hand car that came with winruns (tyres were probably bald when the dealer got it). They had heaps of road noise, and one mysteriously went flat within 1-2 days. So now I have 4 Michelins, a $1000 bill on the credit card for said tyres, and three Winruns to sell.
The perfect tyre does not exist.
Better grip = more safety but also means more noise (because more road contact) and shorter wear (again, because more road contact).
A quiet tyre or a long-lasting tyre will mean less contact with the road so less grip in the wet.
Honestly, buy something decent from one of the better brands (Michelin, Goodyear, Continental, Pirelli, Bridgestone etc). And steer clear of the cheap crap, saving $100 on your tyres is NOT worth the damage to your car or yourself or someone else if you slip out in the wet.
Better grip = more safety but also means more noise (because more road contact) and shorter wear (again, because more road contact).
A quiet tyre or a long-lasting tyre will mean less contact with the road so less grip in the wet.
It’s not just about road contact. Rubber compound as well. Softer rubber, better grip but less life. Harder rubber, more noise, less grip.
Any suggestion?
Buy a decent car?
Any tyre in the 235/55/R19 size will be fine from a vehicle weight point of view. Most tyres in this size on the market will have a 101 or 105 load index rating - this translates to 825kg and 925kg load rating per tyre. If you vehicle is say 2.2t you have a wide safety margin whether it is a 101 or 105 load tyre.
Legality wise check what load index is displayed on your vehicle tyre/wheel placard (usually found on the driver's door jamb), it may also be stated in your owner's manual. The load index displayed here is the minimum requirement. So if you find it states 235/55/R19 105 you must get a tyre which has a load index of 105 or greater.
And as others have said don't cheap out on tyres!
Load index is 101 and speed rate is V on the car placard. I just wanted to bump it up a bit so the 105w
Look @ Michelin Primacy SUV, superb tyre,probably the best at the moment.Consistently wins tyre comparisons.#2: Goodyear efficient grip 2 SUV,another superb one.I have had a few sets of Michelin Primacy 4 & the SUV variant.Cannot go past them.
Bumping up the load rating unnecessarily will just degrade the ride comfort.
Bumping up the load rating unnecessarily will just degrade the ride comfort.
I can't work out why he's thrown those increases into the mix when he obviously has no idea about tyres.
OP: Open your wallet, buy Michelin. If you want cheap, buy Grenlander. A great tyre for the price (around $100 each after cashrewards cashback at Tyroola)
I can't work out why he's thrown those increases into the mix when he obviously has no idea about tyres.
I am not clueless about tyres. I don't care about speed rate increase. I don't think it is necessary but load index increase is good as car takes 8 people + other things. So why not?
@wrx5: you don't think the engineers that designed the vehicle have taken into account the load the vehicle carries when specifying the tyre load rating?
@brad1-8tsi: Of course they did. But do you think there is a technical problem if I use 105 instead of 101?
@wrx5: For the same tyre pressure sidewall compliance and tread flexibility will be slightly reduced.
You may notice it on badly done road joins and expansion joints.
My point is that you've restricted tyres choice by specifying105 in your post. Personally I'd choose the tyre I want at the price point I want and disregard whether it's 101 or 105.
@brad1-8tsi: I see your points. They are valid.
There is an interesting price difference. 105V is cheaper than 101V.
For example:
Continental TechContact® TC6 SUV 235/55R19 101V is $429Continental TechContact® TC6 SUV 235/55R19 105V is $335
I saw this difference on other brands as well.
wrx5 drives Kia Carnival … username checks out
I drive Kia Carnival like Wrx :)
Have fun at the first roundabout in the wet then.
..sure the passengers appreciate the extra room in back on those journeys…
So understeering into 2025?? 😉
Nah only joking. Username has a long story behind.
Kia Carnival is family car so it gets driven appropriately.
I recently bought Bridgestone Ecopia tyres via tyresales.com.au (buy 3 get 1 free). Plug in your tyre size to get a list of available deals. Tyres were shipped to the local Bridgestone Select. They gave me a call, dropped the car off, and were all done in a few hours.
https://www.tyresales.com.au/search?search=size&width=235&as…
As others have said - avoid the cheap Chinese "wrappers". Ecopia is made in Thailand. Buying via Tyresales also means you get "fresh" tyres (i.e. manufactured within the last few months). I've been stung in the past buying "cheap" tyres from a wheel and tyre shop only to find they had been on the shelf for a few years waiting for a mug like me to come along and think I'm getting a deal. The point being is that tyres should ideally be replaced after 5-7 years irrespective of wear. Buying "pre-aged" tyres reduce their lifespan. https://www.bridgestone.com.au/learn/maintenance/age-of-a-ty…
Kumho. My last set lasted over 70000km. Worth the extra, and I believe they come with 50000km warranty if you get a wheel alignment at time of fitting. Check that.
I do agree about this with the Kumho. They have lasted me 70k and more. I had to replace them as they were more than 5 years old. I only paid $159 per tyre back in the day. Nowadays it's higher price which makes me hesitate.
For your size i'd say the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance or Continental TechContact TC6, around $1250 a set
I've just purchased tyres for my mum and dad's cars recently and ended up getting the Continental TechContact TC6 SUV.
They've got good wet and dry handling performance and managed to get a set of 4 for $919 fitted and balanced ($229ea) for the 245/55R19 103-V with a price match from Ever Tyres in Noble Park.
In fact, my dad just got home after getting the tyres fitted and called me to say how nice they felt on the road.
They are also a very nice tyre! Had a few sets of Conti’s!
I'd be hesitant to even put Winrun on my 6x4 trailer.
No way id put them on our car that carries my family. Never cheap out on your families safety.
Pick a well known brand each has there plus and minuses.
Ask a couple of tyre joints for price on a good all round tyre they usually will give you a couple of options.
Sometimes they will push what they have in stock though thats fair enough.
Check your tyre placard on the vehicle (usually door jam) because your usually not locked in to one size you may be able to go to 245 wide for example and that may give you more options a good tyre joint if they dont know off hand they will check.
Muddies
235/55R19 105W