HP Victus R5-5600G/16GB/512GB SSD/RTX3060Ti 8GB Gaming Desktop
$1,298 + $19.95 Delivery ($0 C&C)
Harvey Norman - https://www.harveynorman.com.au/hp-victus-r5-5600g-16gb-512g…
HP Victus 15L Gaming Desktop PC: R5-5600G, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, RTX 3060 Ti 8GB $1298 + $19.95 Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Harvey Norman
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this a joke?
Punch line: Harvey laughing all the way to the bank
you can build this for way less.
I doubt that.
5600G is $200 CPU.
AMD Mini ITX mobo is around $200.
3060Ti is $650.
ITX PSU $50-100
ITX case $50-100
16GB RAM $50 if you're lucky
NVMe SSD $50 if you're lucky
And the HP has a legit Windows key.clearly you haven't tried all places to buy items.
@kungfuman: PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $175.00 @ Amazon Australia Motherboard Gigabyte A520I AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $199.00 @ JW Computers Memory Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $69.00 @ Scorptec Storage ADATA Legend 710 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $45.00 @ Scorptec Video Card Asus DUAL MINI OC V2 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card $649.00 @ Umart Case Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case $59.00 @ Computer Alliance Power Supply Silverstone SFX 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply $139.00 @ PLE Computers Operating System Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit $139.00 @ Amazon Australia Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $1474.00 Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-03 17:17 AEDT+1100 @MrChumps: Who pays a full price for the OEM Windows key these days? You can get an activation key from Amazon or Ebay for $10 or less.
If you add up your costs it’s less than the list price?
PC Part Picker's budget gaming build is $676 and uses the same CPU, and while the other specs are the same, they omit the GPU and Windows 11.
Adding those two places it at $1514.
Plus you get a warranty and support, which for many people is extremely valuable. Not everyone wants to build and support their own machine.
You missed the Ti on the HP one.
Not comparable. This PC is better specced in all areas (except bloatware and dealing with HN)
I don't know if this is a great deal or not but your link is a completely different GPU
And $400 cheaper…
$400 cheaper to downgrade the following:
Worse CPU
Worse GPU (anywhere between 15% - 30% difference depending on source)
Worse Motherboard (A320 vs B550 chipset)
Larger form factor (personal preference, - for me)
Worse looking case (personal preference, - for me)
No Wifi 6 inbuilt
No bluetooth 5.2 inbuiltI wouldn't be so fast to scream awful value for this one, I'd def pay the $400 premium for this over the Techfast deal.
Worse Motherboard (A320 vs B550 chipset)
The HP Victus is actually a B550A which is effectively a rebadged B450. AMD accommodated OEM desires to save money whilst not having an old chipset model number for marketing.
I'd also be wary of the motherboard as whilst it says AM4, the specs only list support for the 3 Cezanne APUs. BIOS may not support or allow anything else.
The HP is better in almost every regard, including some important areas where BPC/TechFast/etc fail:
- delivery for interstate customers.
- returns warranty for intersate customers.
- ready to dispatch/pickup within 1 hour.
- paypal.
Accidentally misread HN as Hacker News. lol
Thank you HN!
i hate being the person who says there will be better deals, but in this case, I can guarantee that there will be a better deal this month.
Please expand… :-)
I've been considering an ITX build, but I do like the look of this. But not big on HN and obviously a better price in a few weeks is something I'm willing to wait for
i wont be surprised if we see a techfast deal with a 3060ti/3070 be around that 1100-1200 mark. or something else pops up for something pre-built.
I haven't built a pc for years, but i assume you're still paying a premium for similar parts and building. depends on what you really need haha
in saying that, i think this is actually a good deal. it's significantly better than the techfast deal. if it were me id wait for 3070/ti deals.
So not a better deal on this specific "Victus by HP 15L Gaming Desktop"? but rather something else prebuilt?
To the HP rep reading this, you're missing out on sales by doing these gaming deals with HN. Sure, you'll still get sales from people who don't care about Gerry's poor and scummy business practice but you're missing out on many people who simply prefer to pay more and shop somewhere else.
Pro tip: guarantee you'll get better outcomes with others like JB/OW. Plus you'll feel better not having to deal with HN.HN stole tax payer covid incentives, Amazon makes their workers pee in bottles and steals their tips.
Kinda feel if you're boycotting HN you definitely should be boycotting Amazon.
amazon makes workers pee in bottles
Can u please elaborate more on that?
Plenty of articles, but basically not having even remotely decent work conditions/schedules.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/mar/25/amazon-de…
@The Wololo Wombat: The Guardian is known globally for pretty good reporting, compared to many mastheads.
Ok, will play along with your "whataboutism/look over there"..
Here's a list for scummy HN, perhaps it's about buying from the lesser evil:
Asic sues Harvey Norman over misleading and deceptive adsKeeping Jobkeeper, pretty much rorting from taxpayers like you and me
Complained about Aussies buying from internet and not buying from his stores, lobbied for import GST even for low value items
When customers were being rejected by Interest Free cards because of bad credit he allowed people to apply for Flexirent, posing as businesses.
Of the billions in assets he owns though won't donate to charity. Quote: "You are helping a whole heap of no-hopers to survive for no good reason. They are just a drag on the whole community"
lobbying against the very livelihoods of their own workers with real wage cuts.
asking young Aussies to work for his side biz—The School Locker—for free due to the “busy back to school period.”The official account mocked a suicidal ex employee with a facepalm and a waving emoji on social media.
Spent big on advertising super-deals but had extraordinarily low stocks. It was a bait n switch mechanism to get people into stores
Bullying tactics and poor treatment of suppliers
The gst issue actually didn't make sense. It was actively encouraging people to buy stuff from overseas.
But the rest, assuming they're a given, is rich people/companies being bad, and abusing their positions of power.
I'm not saying shopping at HN is fine, I'm saying shopping at Amazon is also bad!
Harvey Norman employees jobs or cheaper imports. Pick a side.
Fair call. If you're going boycott HN. Then you should boycott almost all tech products/components manufactured in China. Those businesses make Harvey look like a bloody saint by comparison.
People still buy from the likes of Amazon and AliExpress despite Jack showing his ugly head at every sale.
Meh. I'll buy wherever is cheapest. That's the real OzBargainer way!
Yeah nah, not all Ozbargainers are going for the cheapest. Just look at HN deals and you'll see many enlightened Ozbargainers against HN. The force is strong with this movement
Short answer: No
Longer answer: CPU may be slightly better, but GPU is worse
Also, you have more storageI wonder if you can add a HDD in this one
Is this computer about as good as you can get for sub 1500? Or wait longer?
It's slightly above average. Definitely not as good as you can get for sub $1500.
I'd highly recommend waiting for the amd 7000 release. It's a week away and it can't make prices worse…
Certainly won't make prices worse, but realistically the release of what's probably going to be a $1600 GPU and an $1800 one couldn't have much effect on the pricing of $400-700 GPUs that are in play here.
We may hear some teasers about the new mid-range releases at CES in January, but even then I reckon it's a coin-flip on whether we actually get the cards in customer hands in Q1.
Can't make prices worse.
nVIDIA has entered the chat.<but you are right amd's pricing isn't as scummy as nvidia"s>
is there any propertoiry parts on there?
It looks like Dell's one. Motherboard and PSU are custom shape. Others are standard parts.
Mobo is non-standard. PSU is probably non-standard.
It doesn't really better to me I have not built a PC since 2010. If this last for 4-5 years good enough for me. Unlikely I will upgrade
Sorry but this is a pretty poor deal
I decided to the pull the trigger, but still might change my mind.
I was looking at doing a mini ITX build, with something like a 5600X or 12400F and then a 6600xt. This build was going to come in between $1000-$1300
This Victus is basically a mini ITX?, better GPU than what I was looking at, slightly worse CPU, but the added advantage of not having to build it.
Am I missing something?
The 5600G is more than slightly worse, because it drops some functionality as well as speed. Most notably you lose PCI-E 4.0 support, and the performance is sort of midway between an old Ryzen 3600 and the 5600 due to the halved cache, which tends to be important for gaming.
(If you do go the DIY route, shop for the plain 5600, not the X, they perform almost identically despite the $60 price premium)
Is swapping out the 5600G for a 5600/X an option. But I would need the board to support PCI-E 4.0, which I suppose it doesn't. I think I answered my own question.
Yeah, if you refer to AnotherHuman's post above, it looks like the answer is either no, or a different flavour of no. That is, either no in the sense that it won't work at all, or no in the sense that it'll work to give you the performance boost, but you'll still be locked to PCI-E 3.0 because of the limitation of B450.
@nomisg: Yeah, perhaps I shouldn't take an OzBargain comment as an absolute source of truth, but it's still a bit of an open question due to the obscurity of OEM-only products like B550A. It does look that it may technically be an enhanced version of B450 with added Gen4 support, but the list of supported CPUs make make that a moot point: if the specific motherboard HP is using here does not allow the use of any CPUs that actually have the required support, then it solves nothing.
The other factor here is that the original 2020 launch CPUs in the 5600X and the 5800X are now semi-obsolete, but the CPUs that replaced them (the 5600, 5700X and 5800X3D) were only released this year. So you'd also be dependent on HP being diligent enough in constantly updating the BIOS to support new CPU releases.
@mystarey: So picking it up tomorrow, but done a bit of digging around and can see the mobo is a…
HP name: Erica8, SSID: 89D8.
Not seeing much love in the Bios update department, but the bones are there to support the 5600, 5700X and 5800X3D and PCI4 etc. An MSI variant has done it. There was a HP update to SSID: 89D5 (not 89D8) in sept 2022. But I think thats the Intel variant.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/v…
@nomisg: Yeah, unfortunately it looks like that information is unknowable until people who own it try their luck and attempt it, and for those people to then be helpful enough to post it on the internet.
So what we know is -
Definitely compatible: 5300G, 5600G, 5700G.
Most likely beyond them: 5600X, as it is older than the above CPUs, but is rated at the same 65W TDP.
Somewhat less likely: 5800X, 5900X, 5950X, as while these are the same age as the 5600X, the motherboard may not be best equipped to handle the higher demands (105W TDP, in practice 20%+ more than that).
Least likely: 5500, 5600, 5700X, 5800X3D, as they're all over a year newer (April 2022) than the CPUs that actually are supported (April 2021).
Did a simulated build at partpicker. HP's Price is closed to DIY build which you will get more upgradability and better quality parts than the HP pre-built.
Micro ATX though. Unfair comparison.
Better than whatever proprietary garbage they have in there, probably costs them $30 to make.
Irrelevant. If someone is doing a part picker comparison it's completely pointless if you're comparing different things.
Yes but that doesn't take account of Windows license and HP support. I no longer have the time to play around with hardware. Just want something plug and play and works. Hence I switched to console gaming. However if this works good out of the box to my eyes close to DIY build then it's a go
It's missing the most important spec of a gaming PC. RGB lights.
why 5600G?
G for gangstar
Asked myself the same thing because of the graphics card, but still thought some people might find value in this deal so posted it.
For people who keep asking for mini/itx deals this is decent for a pre-built PC. It will play anything at 1080p and most games well enough at 1440p (I ran a ryzen 2600 and 3060Ti on a 1440p screen very happily but some may want more fps)
Otherwise, if you don't mind a bigger case, it's not an amazing deal. The 5600G CPU is more like a ryzen 3600 or 5500 than a 5600 in terms of performance. The motherboard and PSU are likely proprietary so I wouldn't expect to be able to upgrade much in the future.
I've been out of the desktop builds for a while what is itx?
My i7 6700k PC died this week after about 8 years service. I'm looking for a cheap prebuilt, is this CPU better or at least on par? I dont play modern games and just looking for a replacement. I play on 1440p max due to monitor and Total Warhammer 3 and FFXIV are the only real demanding games. Or should I look for something better? Any recommendations?
5600G + 3060TI?
This is good
Username checks out.
Adding a 5600X makes this 1318+shipping, would this computer from BPCtech be better/comparable?
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/sv-syberspring01-siren-vo…
It's an interesting system because the default spec is pretty questionable, but the options are flexible and reasonably priced enough. I would not upgrade to the 5600X, instead I strongly suggest upgrading to the regular 5600 which is within a couple of percent for significantly less money.
The savings then would be better spent on upgrading the motherboard (either option is fine) because the default one does not support PCI-E 4.0. Then spend the $29 to upgrade the RAM to RGB RAM. This may sound like a weird suggestion, but it's not because of the RGB itself. Rather, this is because the default RAM is slow CL22 rated stuff. No one makes RGB RAM with specs that low, so by upgrading it, you should end up with a decent 3200MHz CL16 kit. As a final optional upgrade, taking the Deepcool CPU cooler upgrade is not a bad idea if you're okay spending that little bit more, I generally find it worthwhile just to not have an annoyingly loud system.
I recommend against taking the SSD and WiFi upgrades. For the SSD, this is because you would be better off just buying a separate additional SSD while keeping the default one with its effectively subsidised price as a secondary. For the WiFi, you can effectively get the better ax WiFi for less by manually adding the Intel AX200 WiFi kit to your purchase instead, though note to use this you need to also upgrade to the Asrock Pro4 motherboard.
Legend, thanks for taking the time to write a detailed reply
I appreciate it
wow super good deal
let's price match at HP
This is not too bad deal.
Recently I built my own pc 5600+x570 mb+3060 ti+ rgb case+ rgb ram+ 650w gold psu. So everything slightly better, total cost 1600.
This 1300 deal is definitely not bad for someone who doesn’t know how to build a pc, plus I guess this one has 3y warranty from hp?
Yeah I'm totally outdated with PC building have not done so for a decade or more. So you reckon this is th go if I don't wanna spend time learning and mucking around? I want something that just works out of box. Time is more important these days. I just want a machine works and play as much as a console
Is it available for click and collect anywhere in VIC?
How many jobkeeper payments is this?
only 1 store's staffs worth
Anyone have experience with the HP case?
The little ventilation in SFF case concerns me.I need to buy 5 PCs for an office
The quote for 12 Gen Intel i5, 16GB RAM ,512SSD (Dell/HP/Lenovo) are similar to this price point.
Would it smart to buy this system and sell the NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti (8 GB GDDR6 dedicated) with LHR in Market Place
The CPU in this unit does have a IGPU, so yeah
Will my good deal make up for my shit comments recently?
Happy with the deal, don't know much about ya shit comments
HP Build Quality and Warranty vs ……..
Waited too long missed the deal, hope for the next one
Thank you everyone for enjoying the deal I found
Wow good deal