It's Wednesday morning. You're invited to an event at 5PM, next Saturday.
How do you respond?
When is 'Next Saturday'?
900dollaridoos on 29/11/2022 - 15:55
Last edited 29/11/2022 - 15:56
Last edited 29/11/2022 - 15:56
Poll Options
- 168"I'll see you in 3 days"
- 8"I'll see you in 4 days"
- 1344"I'll see you in 10 days"
- 14"I'll see you in 11 days"
Comments
While I agree, it's definitely not a 'surely' based on our workplace discussion haha
Your workplace has some huge morons. What workplace is this? CBA? Bluescope Steel? Woolworths?
probably Parliament House, Canberra.
Worse. We are engineers haha
@900dollaridoos: That checks out, in my experience with engineers they're terrible at communicating.
@oranglama: Elon doesn't answer my calls and I'm not on Twitter.
Engineers are good with numbers. Not people. I've only worked in engineering for 25 years so what would I know?
OzBargain?
Throw RBA into that list too
The area where the debate got murky was when it becomes much further away, or in the next week.
Eg, on a Wednesday, most people agreed that "next Tuesday" would be 'the next Tuesday', but "next Friday" would be "the friday after the coming friday".
The ‘next’ indicates ‘next week’, so after the coming Sunday
@CacheHunter: Language is a social construct… if 90% agree it is something, then it becomes the fact.
For example; you'd be "wrong to say":
Pepper and Salt
Spice and Sugar
White and Black
Dad and Mum
Juliet and Romeo
Treat or Trick
Roll and Rock
Suffering and Pain…the collective says you have to pronounce them the opposite order.
@CacheHunter: Agree! There is a conveyer belt with apples on it. I say "grab the next apple". So you should grab the first available apple. NOT the apple AFTER the first available apple.
@CacheHunter: You’re at the bus stop with two friends and a bus is coming. One asks “We get on this bus?”, the other replies “We get on the next one”.
Do you get on the bus?
@5kbjvb3o: In that case you do catch the one after the coming bus, because your point of reference is the bus that is already coming.
If you aren't referencing the coming bus and you said "let's catch the next bus" you would catch the first bus to turn up next.
@oranglama: If someone asks "we get on this bus?" As was put in the scenario. There must either be their or visibly coming and that is the point of reference. Otherwise the question doesnt make sense as they aren't referencing anything.
Next Friday WOULD be the Friday after the coming Friday!
It's the Tuesday that's debatable. I'd always thought of "this" as being "next" and "next" being "the one after next", but I baulked at this example. I like sjj89's reasoning better, but I don't see us getting a consensus. English is a crappy language.
@SlickMick: I wish people would stick with… "Saturday of next week" & "this Saturday" zero confusion.
"Next Saturday" could be confused with the next Saturday approaching or the Saturday of next week.
a Friend calls in on Tuesdays and she said to my wife C U next Tuesday my wife said back to her did you just drop the C bomb
Exactly.
I'm always checking when people say this though because lots of people seem to get it wrong.
How do you respond?
Yes Sir!
This Saturday = This Saturday
Next Saturday = Next Saturday
Next Saturday ≠ This Saturday
So if today is a Wednesday, is "next Tuesday" a fortnight away?
I would take "next" to be short for "next week".
So "next Tuesday" = "Tuesday, next week", (which is 6 days away).
Which day does your week start? If you're logic hold, when is next Sunday? Done people treat the week as starting on Monday, others on Sunday.
@CacheHunter: Yes some people say Monday is the start of the week, whilst others are just incorrect.
@smartazz104: Who makes the rules? Whoever made the calendar? Then you're wrong.
Or somebody who comes along hundreds of years later and decide they know better? They call it an international standard, yet half the world rightfully reject it.
yes, and "This Tuesday" means yesterday 🤪 so there is some grey area.
I would normally say “next week, on Tuesday” just to eliminate these types of confusion.
Often qualified as "This Tuesday just passed" for clarification
"This" implies the week that the tuesday falls in
The words this, next and last when referreing to days, implies the week that the days are located in.
How is that a grey area?
If it's Wednesday I would say:
This Saturday - 3 days from now
Next Saturday - 10 days from now
This Tuesday - Don't use unless it's contextually clear
This coming Tuesday - 6 days from now
Next Wednesday - 7 days from now
This Wednesday - Today but I haven't had coffee yet and don't know what day it is
Tuesday Week - 13 days from now
"Not the coming Tuesday but the one after it" - what I have to say when I say "Tuesday Week" to anyone who isn't from a UK/AU/NZ backgroundIf someone else says to me "Next Tuesday" I simply agree to whatever they're saying because I'm not going to turn up to whatever shitty work event is on anyway.
Yeah i also would only be interested if hear Friday or Saturday and show up with my alcohol that I got from Boozebud on ebay. Any other day of the week means it is a boring event.
Haha.. checkmate!!
yes, if it was the next calender tuesday as in 6 days away you would just say "im going to get my car rego done on Tuesday"
Next Saturday ≠ This Saturday
This Saturday literally is the 'next' Saturday.
Yeah but you can't take an abbreviation literally like that.
Next Saturday is shortened from next week Saturday.
shortened from next week Saturday.
says who?
no, next saturday means the "next saturday" after "this saturday", since today is wednesday, this saturday is 3 days away and next saturday will be 10 days away, i understand your logic but that is not how it is used correctly and pretty much 98% of people interpret the explanation i have given as the correct way meaning it doesnt matter whether it is technically correct or not, the joint reality of interpretation makes it correct in the context of person a talking about next saturday that is 10 days away and person b knowing that person a is talking about the saturday that is 10 days away
no, next saturday means the "next saturday" after "this saturday",
No it doesn't. it means 'on the next Saturday'…
@jv: yes it does, if next saturday meant the same as this saturday it wouldnt make sense, why would there be 2 different terminologies for the same day in question, by your logic, saturday 3 days from now would be both this saturday and next saturday, that is nonsense
if next saturday meant the same as this saturday it wouldnt make sense
yes, confirmed. they are the same…
@jv: im sorry my friend, you are wrong, you must show up to things all the time on the wrong day, like i said, 98% of people interpret it the same way i do, so for all intensive purposes, the next time someone invites you to a gathering "next saturday" they will be referring to the saturday after the coming saturday(this saturday), i believe there is even a joke about this on brooklyn nine nine or one of those type shows
@jv: being stubborn wont make you right, unfortunately only facts will, and the fact is, you are wrong
being stubborn wont make you right
Are you following your own advice here?
I'm just posting a fact…
@jv: Silence fool, i must be on my way to get cheap mcdonalds, but yeah a quick look at the poll will demonstrate my point, now, i must be off to get my $6.90 crappy quarter pounder meal and cheeseburger, good day sir
but yeah a quick look at the poll will demonstrate my point\
LOL.
I said fact, not hearsay….
@jv: This is not a question of mathematical or scientific fact. Given the question is about communication (The imparting or exchanging of information by speaking, writing, or using some other medium), the majority does rule because there has been the most effective communication to the most recipients.
Whilst how the majority of people use the terminology may not make the most sense, and there is logic to your reasoning, there are many common quirks in how we use language, but the key is what the majority of people interpret the use of the language as.
The closest quantifiable determination is a poll - At the time of writing this your opinion is being outnumbered 8 to 1 on the poll which is a very convincing lead.
However I would still assert the most correct answer is that there is ambiguity, and more effective communication should be utilised.
It would be ineffective communication to insist that the correct answer must be one that the evidence suggests can be so widely misinterpreted (such that it gets voted down 8 to 1) versus the information you intended to convey (i.e. which day the event is on)… no matter how much it logically makes sense to you (or not) if you had written the rules of the English language. Which frankly, could use improvement in various areas.
for all intensive purposes
I hesitate to believe someone so confident about being right but who writes this.
@Qazxswec: The difference is if today is Saturday. Next Saturday would be 7 days time because thats the next one, this saturday is today.
What if it's Sunday? Surely this Saturday and next Saturday are exactly the same day as they both refer to Saturday next week.
What did you do this Saturday?
There is no correct answer. That's why an intelligent person would also mention the date.
This is a workplace discussion, so intelligence is off the table.
Surely that means Saturday is your farewell party?
An intelligent person doesn't get confused about this stuff in the first place lol
Seems we are moving closer to consensus.
Looking forward to the next time.
Options should be only 3 and 10 days right why there iare option for 4 and 11? Mandatory options?
Because it was a secondary discussion we had at work. Assuming Next Saturday is This Saturday, is that 3 days away (not counting today) or 4 days away (rounding to the nearest 24hrs).
wow - you really do have morons at your work.
I can't really fathom how anyone answered see you in 4 days …. please tell me this wasn't you?It's Wednesday morning….presumably within a socially acceptable time to be invited to something at a work discussion, so let's assume between 8am and 11:59am, therefore:
1 day (24 hours) would be Thursday 8-11:59am
2 days (48 hours) would be Friday 8-11:59am
3 days (72 hours) would be Saturday 8-11:59am (5 to 9 hours away from 5PM Saturday AND in the same actual day!) <<< (which is 77 to 81 hours away and closest to 3 days!!)
4 days (96 hours) would be Sunday 8-11:59am (15 hours to 19 hours away from 5PM Saturday (which to explain to your colleagues is further away than the above) and the next actual day!)… and regardless of all that, it is 10 days away from Next Saturday not 3.
So even if you incorrectly assume Next Saturday is This Saturday, if you round to the nearest 24 hours you are still 3 days away and not 4!
I'd like to know who those 3 people who voted 4 days away were and what drugs they are on…. - WTF!?!
The day after Next Friday.
Off your reply to my earlier comment, is your 'Next Friday' this week's Friday or next week's Friday?
two days after next thursday
Merged from When is 'Next Tuesday'?
It's Wednesday morning. You're invited to an event at 5PM, next Tuesday.
How do you respond?Poll Result
- "I'll see you in 6 days" (20 votes)
- "I'll see you in 7 days" (0 vote)
- "I'll see you in 13 days" (3 votes)
- "I'll see you in 14 days" (1 vote)
Sorry
Can't be Assed
Who has ever said any of the poll options during normal conversation? See ya next week.
Next Tuesday (6 days)
Tuesday after next (13 days)I actually refer to what you call Tuesday after next as "Tuesday week" so not Tuesday but a week later.
I typically do as well but I've met far too many people who's faces screw up trying to figure out what the hell I mean.
Yep "Tuesday week" is the unambiguous version used by cultured people.
Makes sense to be the following Saturday, as the closest Saturday would be "This Saturday" surely? I'd like to know who miscommunicated with who and what the result was lmao