I was looking for which games(backward compatible like 360/one ) I can play from external storage on Xbox series x and this came 1st thing in search, so I thought why not let others know about .
Still to expensive for me though.
1st time posting hopefully didn't mess up;)
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yeah thats what I found, plus there are some xbox series x/s enhanced games that we can still play from external storage
Like which games?
This list is 1 year old:
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxSeriesX/comments/mnpeuo/optimiz…
Games that are flagged as Gen9Aware can be run from regular external drives.
I plugged in an old cheap portable 500GB HDD, 1TB between last-gen & current-gen with each in the correct drive is an acceptable amount of space.
It's a shame that it's such a good deal vs $700 rrp yet still so expensive. If $450 was normal price (and it should actually be as that's a fair price) I'd buy one when on further 20% sale
But as it stands… Too close the the price of an xbox!
Lol yeah I'd rather just start stacking the consoles on top of each other ;)
Has any colones or compatible devices been made, these are just so expensive for some extra storage.
gamer fragrance? they could start with deodorant
that's cologne … wayfast meant costa rica's colone currency… pretty sure any type of money is compatible with purchasing this :P
Could have been referring to colon, the source of much of the Gamer Fragrance
Yeah there is an adaptor you can get but it only works with one drive I think and the price is sky high because of that. It doesn't work out much cheaper in the end.
Cost of a 2tb NVME is around $300. So I guess this deal is alright for a proprietary half size drive. It is just painful that they cost so much though. I’ll probably just keep moving games from external to internal.
Tempting, but I cant bring myself to pay so much for a proprietary drive that I can't use elsewhere and is such poor value.
I ended up just using a Samsung t7 ssd and I move the games manually, it's a bit tedious but much cheaper.
This is the price of a series S lol
You can rip the drive out of the series S then!
Wait, it only has 0.5tb storage…
You really don't need these. Hook a regular old SSD or HDD up via USB and use it as cold storage. Takes a few minutes to transfer any game that you want to play from it to the internal drive.
I agree, but I will say that it definitely takes a hot minute, something like GTA 5 or Battlefront 2, 80/90+gb games, expecting 20 odd minutes to copy to a USB3.0 drive is pretty fair.
20 odd minutes is quite a while, but it's a shitload quicker than downloading the patches for the games if you straight deleted them and reinstalled from disc.
I put a 2tb drive in the PS5 recently, never use the PS5, but the internet speed on the thing was so damn frustrating it caused me to buy the thing so I could at least have all our PS4 stuff installed and good to go, considering the piss poor HDD size on the PS5 basically required external if you wanted more than a dozen games max. Anyway, moral of the story is, it's definitely not a bad solution. We paid I think 49 for a 2tb drive from JB, might have used a $10 voucher admittedly, but still almost 400 bucks cheaper than this, and if/when we don't want to use it on the PS5 anymore, it will still function as a normal USB drive.
I understand them, but unfortunately, a proprietary, expensive (calm down fanboys, I didn't say overpriced) storage unit isn't something I've wanted since 2004 with my PS2.
Comparing USB 3.0 spinning storage to NVMe fourth Gen I believe.
I Feel like the only comparison should be NVMe drives
In saying that there's nothing wrong with transferring back-and-forth with cold storage
100 GB takes around 30 minutes
Games are getting massive though and if people want to have 10 or More games ready to go this storage solution is the go
I suppose I should actually say, with regards to Xbox, I never bothered to get an external (well, I did have an HDD yeeeeears ago on the One, but ignoring that), the only time I've really copied stuff is via MicroSD in a 3.0 reader. I'd used that a few times to copy big games like GTA and whatnot to an old Xbox One to save time.
To be fair, loading games off that USB on the 'Bone actually loaded quicker than the built in drive here and there lmao.
But yeah, obviously the "velocity archeticture" and a cheapo USB card reader from Target aren't directly comparable, more than anything, I'm saying it's a fine alternate option, not a comparable choice
@TheDukeOfNukem: Why Microsoft did not put in USB 3.2 gen 2 ports is puzzling (Sony did for PS5). It's also really annoying that given this "expansion card" interface is CFast Express, why put a restricted whitelist on it?
Eventually, we will want to get one of these expansion cards. While this is a good price, a 2TB SN530 equivalent SSD for $433 is still expensive.
2TB is more than you need and the 1TB option is even more overpriced. Pity that Xbox went with a proprietary SSD plug.
2tb doesn't go that far when you really break it down. GTA 5 is about 120gb once the reserve is factored in, Battlefront 2 is another 80/85, throw in a couple Call of Duties at around 100 odd each (last I recall, 4K MW1 was close to 300gb a few years ago though, so I'm being generous), like, half a terabyte is already gone on just a couple games from yeeeeears ago.
Obviously not every game is a huge storage sucking AAA game, I have 50 odd games on my Series S and 30/40gb left over as is, buuuuut, 2tb only goes so far, especially if you're using your next gen console to play next gen games, hey.
Sure, but how many games do you actually play at the same time? I really only need as much storage as I’ve got games to switch between. And that’s where an 1 TB expansion is plenty for me. But I guess everyone’s different.
To be fair, I bounce back and forth between a few but not like a shitload. Like default, I will have on my machine, 100% regularly playing Fortnite (30/35gb), Battlefront 2 (80/85gb), GTA 5 (120ish gb), Tony Hawk (25gb), just as my go to "must have" sort of games. Battlefront 2 I'll happily sub for the superior 2005 one anyway, and save 80gb but like, that's still a good couple hundred just on a few basics, and that's to say nothing of any modern kind of game like the newer CODs at a couple hundred minimum (like a mate messaged me the other day, complaining of a 180gb update to Cold War), and the sort.
On PlayStation it's more of a (profanity), because there's only about 480/500 odd gig actually available on the drive, so with Battlefront (100ish gig on PS4), GTA 5 (85/90 though so it evens out), Spider-Man (70 odd), Spider-Man Miles (40/50), it's getting pretty full and that's before Tony Hawks or anything else… so then I chuck on Uncharted and Last of Us at 70gb a pop (not the new version of LOU either mind you) and it's fecking full. But because of how it handles installs (a 10gb game will need 20, bc it downloads the 10 into a cache sort of situation, then copies it to the storage, then deletes the cache, but still needs the double space) double time, meaning for a 100gb game, you really need 200gb, at least for a minute, which makes it a big ol' effort.
This cost about as much as my series S console!
I said if it went down below $500 id buy it. So here i am buying 2tb storage for the cost of series s.
A man of your word!!
…maybe don't make any promises (you might have to keep them) about mortgage or marriage?
Bought one and have my fingers crossed I can sell my 1tb drive I have currently for $300 to justify the cost.
Prices are up so get that bad boy on gumtree
Crazy price but I would be buying one of these myself if I didn't have Telstra points waiting to get a 1TB
Good price relative to RRP, but 2tb of anything for nearly half a grand will never be a good idea
That's a GREAT price. I paid $699 a few months ago for the same. Don't question my sanity/motives, just accept that for this ridiculously expensive item, $433 is the best price it's EVER been…
So you paid almost the same price as a Series X console yikes Microsoft knows how to take advantage of it's customers, the only good thing about the PS5 Is a byo drive..
That's the fourth best thing.
The second best thing is it's still good performance vs value.
The second best thing is the controller.
The best thing are the exclusive games + third-party title support.
still too expensive, comparing Samsung 980 pro 2TB was only $298 or silimar when on sale
To my understanding these are fast PCIe 4.0 cards. So at $433 it’s only a tad more than a fast non proprietary one. Expensive luxury but still great price imho, thanks op, bought
Nah, it's specs cheating. Microsoft claiming the NVMe SSD inside is capable of PCIe gen 4 x2, which has the same bandwidth as PCIe gen 3 x4. We also know Series X uses WD SN530 equivalent SSD.
It's merely a marketing spin to trick non tech savvy customers. We know PCIe gen 3 x4 SSDs will work and you don't even need a top class one. What Microsoft did caused WD SN530's price to go up like crazy.
Ah ok, obviously I’ve read zero of the conversation above, I just assumed and thought they were using the same tech/requirements as the ps5s. Sigh, it’s not like we have much of a choice if we want more fast disk space…
It's a nice spin Microsoft did, but in reality, it is PCIe gen 3 x4. It's somewhat good as DirectStorage's specs / recommendation currently not requiring PCIe gen 4 x4.
Also, in reality, it is not all about sequential read/write. More importantly, majority of the impressive results is the SLC cache.
@netsurfer: The "impressive tech" SSD in the Sony isn't even that revolutionary. They could've gone with the same drive as MS and nothing would've changed overall.
The Xbox is superior to the PS5 in every way this time. With the exception being the proprietary storage and the controller.
Even online services are better with Xbox Ultimate being pretty great, while PS5 subscription sucks. On the PS4 it was paid, but at least they offered you better and more games. Whilst on the PS3 the PSN network was free.
@Kangal: Series X has more powerful CPU and GPU. However, you have to hand it to Sony for the storage, I/O and the controller on PS5. I own both.
It's just dumb for Microsoft NOT to put in USB 3.2 gen 2 USB ports (the speed difference is 2X). Sure, the actual NAND flash chips in PS5 are actually about the same as the ones in Series X, but Sony knows by simply using a better controller, they can actually claim true PCIe gen 4. That SSD controller isn't that expensive. Quick Resume is great, but in terms of loading titles from scratch, Microsoft really needs to get games to implement DirectStorage quickly.
The AMD APU in Series X DOES support USB 3.2 gen 2. Also, even if Microsoft wants to use CFExpress, don't enforced an allowed list. That allowed list of SSDs is a joke. The fact you cannot even put a top notch PCIe gen 3 x4 SSD (due to firmware block) is just shrewd. Compared to Sony, even a low end PCIe gen 4 SSD (which behaves more like a PCIe gen 3 SSD) is allowed.
GamePass is great, but storage and I/O, Microsoft was too short sighted. Unless, that was intentional, choking the USB bandwidth to force us to buy this expansion storage. Series S, I still have mixed feeling about it. Would it kill Microsoft to have a cost effective console that can play UHD blu-rays? One S was such a device.
Whether we like it or not, having both camps doing well is good for consumers. GamePass Ultimate is a double edge sword. The reason I was able to basically pay $50 for PS5 and $100 for Series X is I had quite a lot of old PS4 games (and a small number of XB1 games) to trade in. Is your Series X completely useless without GamePass Ultimate? Games I really want, I still buy (even for Series X). Most games I really want to play left GamePass ages ago.
@netsurfer: Well, you have to remember this is a tightrope between price, features, and longevity.
As an example, the Kinect v2, it wasn't adopted by developers or consumers so the longevity was bad, feature-wise it was so-so, and price wise it cost MS the smooth launch of the XB1. I think it's a peculiar phenomenon when the layman knows something but the rich analyst and executives don't. They thought the success of the Wii would spill over to Xbox. Had their analysis actually been correct, then bundling it from the get-go would have been a brilliant strategy.
Sony doesn't want backwards compatibility. Xbox is indifferent. So they shoe-horned it in so that it gives people an incentive to upgrade. That's why the USB difference is there, but it could also come down to apathy. Now it seems they're both treating backwards compatibility, as something to boost their subscription service.
Going off-rails:
When it comes to console strategy;
Nintendo - software first
Xbox - hardware first
PS - hybrid
… and since it's a multi-year business, it's a very different business to other sectors.
With good revenue and strong competition, we've seen MS act consumer friendly. From the initial Xbox to the 360 they were making a mark. In fact, the "Xbox 720" was expected to launch around 2010-2011 as inline with MS usual strategy. And I believe they already had the XB1 mostly ready by then, but delayed it for 2013 launch. That was because Sony dropped the ball early on for the PS3 and competition was weird, as MS copied their design, which is ironic because Sony then copied MS afterwards. Tit for tat. Next expected launch for the XB2 would have been in 2016, and it would've come with Zen1 CPU, GCNv2 GPU, 12GB S-RAM, 128GB internal SSD and 1TB HDD. But instead they dragged the previous generation then gave them light/midgen upgrades. What the Xbox Series X represented was MS coming back to form, with a 2020 release and strong hardware.
I think the Xbox Series S was a brilliant move. They're selling a cheaper console, that promotes their Online Store and Services. Even though it's cheaper, it's still definitely a next-gen console as it is slightly faster than the XSX when it comes to playing games, but it does so at 1080p instead of 2160p. Based on the number of TVs out there with 1080p displays it makes sense. However, it does tie MS and Developers down. I say this because early-life games usually are less optimised so you might get visuals such as 2160p/30fps/Medium Settings… later they increase fidelity to 1440p/60fps/Very High Settings. With the XSX that's what might happen, but what about the XSS? Will they drop it down to 720p, or just downgrade the Visuals to Low? Probably a combination of the two. It might age like milk, so perhaps they should discontinue it before that happens.
No-one could have predicted the events from the past two years. It feels like both the PS5/XS haven't even started yet, and we're 2+ years in. Hindsight is 20/20, but a "Pro Move" that could have been done by MS would be to effectively kill off the entire XB1-family, develop the XSS and release it as the "Xbox Two" (Zen2, RDNA-2, SSD). Basically upscaled-4K, 60fps, Medium Settings. It would've forced Sony to develop a worse PS5 in haste. Meanwhile, MS could have used the extra +2 years to make a compelling console with the new architecture (Zen4, RDNA-3, nVme), as full-4K, 120fps, Very High Settings. And release it as the "Xbox V" (the 5th console) instead of their weird names. It would be like back in 2003 when PS2 had lots of games, but their Xbox counterparts always looked and played much better.
jumped up to $635 for me
That’s Amazon us, Amazon uk is still $433
Thanks, this deal is not expired.
Xbox really did stitch up consumers with these terrible ssds
How does the OS behave with this anyway? Ie. The Xbox one makes you pick a drive to install by default. It's not that seamless. I expect something more self managing if using this
It works like any other drive, with the exception of being hot-swappable and able to play Series X optimised games straight off the drive.
You still have to pick a drive to install to as default, although it's now possible on Series X to choose one default for Series X optimised games and a different default for backwards compatible titles.
You still have to manage the space on the drive separately from the internal and any other drives you might have connected, just like you would with a USB drive on the Xbox One.
One thing Sony been doing right allowing open support to storage
I thought that you can play any/all 360/X1 games from any external storage. Only the XSX/XSS specific games require the special external drive?