Finally got on my hand RAV4 Hybrid! What a long wait….phew
My mate told me to fill the car 98, at least for the first one year to make the machine's condition good long term - Is this true? I'm thinking to just fill it with 95, should be enough right?
Also, does fuel brand matter - for example: BP vs 7/11 - do they have different quality of the fuel?
Use the recommended fuel for your vehicle. If Toyota says, 95 min, then use 95. If you really care about cleaning the engine as it's running, put some Fuel Injection Cleaner every few tanks.
If the car doesn't require 98, and I'm pretty certain it won't, then it's not going to make any real difference.
Use wehatever the handbook says, anything more is not really beneficial. There's a lot of urban legends around "special additives" or "extra efficiency" of premium fuels.
I'm thinking to just fill it with 95, should be enough right?
Stick with manufacturer specs and stop 'thinking'.
You're wasting money for no good reason.
Yep. I see people at my local servo putting 98 into 10+ year old corollas and camrys. I just shake my head…
Good idea to fill what's written on the fuel tank/manufacturer's guide I suppose.
I always find this hilarious.
Spend $50k+ on a car, worry about an extra 6c per litre
ok. so one has to choose between a Tesla model Y. Mercedes and chasing someone for towing costs. Took this question at face value.
It’s the same people can afford latest iPhone but cheapen out on cases and screen films
Out of curiosity, how long did you wait? We ordered one in April.
read the manual for the car will tell you
The car is rated to use E10 (which is 94 Ron equivalent) which will be fine. However, if you don't drive the car often and tend to fill up only once a month, E10 separates over time a lot more than other fuels, so you'd be better off with 95 or 98 (or regular old 91, the non E10 variety).
My sister inherited my old Civic years ago and she only filled it with E10 for a few years (when I had only used Premium), and the engine failed after a couple of years (noting that the car was already old though in excellent condition, but the E10 accelerated wear)- mechanic advised not to use E10 in older cars, if ever. Newer vehicles would be much more tolerant to E10. After that experience I only use Premium 95 or higher in any car, though my newer vehicle requires that.
but the E10 accelerated wear
Got any proof of that? Was the civic suited for E10? What model was it? My guess it is purely coincidental or related to other poor maintenance during tour sisters ownership.
Newer vehicles are not ‘more tolerant’ they are just designed to suit E10
If you put 95 in a car designed for 91 you are chucking money away.
Car was compatible with E10, was post 2000 make. Fuel separation over a few years, filling the tank with a quarter left in there multiple times, apparently the most likely cause. May have been resolved by occasionally running a full tank of normal 91,95 or 98 down closer to empty to get rid of the rubbish. Sister took good care of it, none of us knew that the fuel was anything more than anecdotal.
As some others have noted, premium fuel has lower quantities or Sulphur (for now) in Aus so causes less pollution, so is technically better for the environment, and the cars can run smoother and with more power with modern ECU’s adjusting fuel to air ratios against higher octane dependent on fuel quality. It’s also way overpriced, but make your own decision. I’m really just suggesting not to use solely E10, especially if you tend to use little fuel or don’t drive regularly.
Take it for what it’s worth, this is the internet and I could be making stuff up. But I’m not.
mechanics say this.
The reality is that the ethanol component of e10 makes it less aquaphobic than the 90% balance of petrol. For cars that dont do a large amount of ks and sit there its better to ise 91 or 95. If its highway. run a tank of e10. clear the potential sentiment from the tank and start anew.
If inherited cars dont last forever.
I always go for 95, best option for more mileage and price ratio. Also better for the engine in the long term have it running 7+ years Toyota Rav 4 no issues. Less knock back more performance. I stay away from E10 stuff. I mainly have short trips
Ron 98 usually wasteful and your car does not require it unless it's a high performance sports car.
I recall the 90s to early 2000s Japanese coupe demands 95, was popular and I used to drive one so already used to using 95.
But OPs thinking of giving the car 98 first year does not do anything. You might as well just pump Ron 95 if you really care. Or otherwise use fuel injector cleaner
Sulfur is no good for the environment but using 95 means you are doing your part to be greener when you can't afford full EV yet
Someone wrote before E10 91 is no good for short trips maybe because the bad stuff and gank just sits at the bottom of the fuel tank
Also better for the engine in the long term have it running 7+ years Toyota Rav 4 no issues
There’s thousands of 7+ yo Toyota’s running on 91 from the day they drove out the dealers driveway. I had a 20yo corolla run on 91. Ran brilliantly. You are talking garbage if you think running 95 has made it last this long.
Have you actually measured your economy 95 vs 91?
As for being better for the environment? Have you thought about the additional additives in 95? It’s not just sulphur that’s bad. Aside from that, 95 has sulphur in it too.
That’s just what you think, I have a preference and I’m telling OP my experience you don’t need to agree on. And yes I do get better mileage with 95. I don’t really care if there are thousands or millions of Toyota running 91 personal experience is better whatever you are comparing.
To OP’s question yes there’s also quality difference between BP, Shell, Ampol servos etc I tested same RON 95 I get more from BP than Shell and Ampol.
Won’t reply any further since all these days people just like to neg when it doesn’t suit them.
Will be happy to take evidence of 95 being ‘better’.
You’ve provided anecdotes and anecdotes are highly susceptible to influence by marketing, cognitive bias and a host of other psychological factors.
You haven’t stated how much better ‘mileage’. Might not be worth the extra cost of the fuel. My measured (two vehicles, many tanks of fuel) is that fuel type does not alter fuel consumption any more than variance due to driving conditions. That is, I get more variance tank to tank with the same fuel than fuel type appears to make.
There is no ‘difference’ between high octane fuels.Their additives may differ slightly, but it is all ‘spin’ from the oil companies, nothing else, I use any 98 I can purchase.It is all ‘BS’.
I use 91 on my edge hybrid, still running perfectly fine after nearly half a year.
You should run 2 stroke. Makes the new cat smell much better than fart
I have tried both 95 and 98 in my brand new 2022 i30 N turbo which is specced for 95, I find it runs better on 95. On 98 the exhaust doesn't pop and crackle anywhere as much either, probably because more octane = slower burning, and if the car isn't tuned for it then it goes to waste.