BrewZilla 35L - Gen.3.1.1 - Home Brewing System $350 (Normally $400) + Postage ($0 MEL C&C) @ Kegland

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Lodan on 27/09/2022 - 22:13 kegland.com.au (1066 clicks)
Last edited 28/09/2022 - 11:26 by 2 other users

This system is a great entry point to all-grain home brewing, making batches up to 20-30L depending on style.

IMHO, it is exceptional value compared to other single vessel systems such as the Guten 40L Brewery System ($475), BrewZilla 35L - Gen 4 ($605) or the Grainfather ($1000-$1185).

If you want to brew even more beer (up to 40L), this Grainfather S40 Brewing System looks to be good value too ($420 plus postage, normally $725) https://www.kegking.com.au/grainfather-s40.html.

Shout out to Chrool in comments - BrewZilla 65L - Gen.3.1.1 ($480, normally $619) - note that this needs a 15A supply for full heating power
https://www.kegland.com.au/brewzilla-65l-gen-3.html

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  jong on 27/09/2022 - 22:24

  +4

  Be aware that these guys are short staffed, and it's taking them a week or so to even ship things.

  They don't tell you this until after you've ordered, even though it seems to have been going on for months.

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    Chrool on 27/09/2022 - 22:30

    +1

    they pack the orders for direct pickup very quickly.

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    Spending2Much on 27/09/2022 - 22:59

    +2

    Can confirm. Took over a week for my recent order to even be ready for dispatch.

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    Rod71 on 28/09/2022 - 08:34

    This has been happening for at least 12 months.

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    Gedrod on 28/09/2022 - 10:29

    +2

    That said, they are a well established and reliable business. As a home brewer I have purchased from them for about 10 years.

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  GlobalWorming on 27/09/2022 - 22:26

  Can it make coffee?

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    jong on 27/09/2022 - 23:27

    +1

    It's basically a hot water urn with extra bits (recirculating pump, better temperature control) so, yes.

    It'll do almost 35 litres at a time.

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  Chrool on 27/09/2022 - 22:29

  +2

  Dont forget the 65l 3.1.1 is $480 !

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  Tycn on 27/09/2022 - 22:47

  +4

  Would recommend a 50L stockpot ($70-100) and nylon brew bag ($10) for the true tightarse.

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    Lodan on 27/09/2022 - 23:00

    +2

    Brew in a bag is certainly the cheapest way to start all-grain. I started that way at the time when Spiedel's all-in-one system was about the cheapest at ~$2k. Hard to argue with the Brewzilla systems the way they are priced these days.

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    SBOB on 28/09/2022 - 06:41

    +1

    Still need to heat that stockpot (and you aren't doing 40l boils on your normal cooktop :) )

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      Tycn on 28/09/2022 - 09:54

      +1

      I've actually had no trouble doing full volume boils on my cooktop - previously ceramic, now gas. Reading on the internet you'd think it wouldn't work, but the pot is wide enough that you can heat it using multiple elements / burners to speed it up.

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  Hinee on 28/09/2022 - 09:04

  So I've been getting into homebrewing this year after getting a Coopers kit for christmas. I honestly love this hobby and am onto my fifth brew currently but am keen to explore how I can improve my methods. I've been getting some great results just using the molasses(?) tins and a sugar/malt blend into the plastic tub but am sure something like this deal would be the next step up. The thing is though, one of the main reasons that I love about my current method is just how simple the whole process is. This would replace using the tins for throwing actual grains straight in right? Is the process still just chuck everything in and wait? Anything else that will be better/worse in making this upgrade?

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    SBOB on 28/09/2022 - 09:13

    +4

    All grain is more involved, but you get better end results and a much larger range of brewing options and recipe control.

    No different than packet cake mix or bottled pasta sauce vs following a recipe and making it from scratch

    You don't go all grain for time saving :)

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    reidy76 on 28/09/2022 - 09:17

    +2

    Not really, going all grain is a big change from Coopers tins, you have a lot more decisions to make (grains, hops, yeast, etc), you will be looking anywhere from 4-8 hours for a full brew day (you can cut that down by preheating water and using no-chill but that's a whole other discussion). If you want an idea around what a brew day would look like check out The Home Brew Network on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ohjdGKmWk)

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    Chrool on 28/09/2022 - 10:04

    +1

    take a look at fresh wort kits, sort of an in between step

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      SBOB on 28/09/2022 - 10:38

      If anything, fresh wort kits are even less work than tin/extract brewing :)

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    jjcf on 28/09/2022 - 10:05

    +3

    It's a lot more of a hassle. A great midpoint is to just pick up a fresh wort kit and some hops. You get all grain beer without the cleaning and equipment costs and cleaning and sacks of grain lying around and cleaning.

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    Rod71 on 28/09/2022 - 10:16

    +2

    Your next step should be adding some steeped grains to your Coopers kits, and experimenting with hops if you haven't already.

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    Hinee on 28/09/2022 - 11:00

    Thanks for all the responses! Looks like all grain is a few years away. I've seen fresh wort kids advertised but not looked much into them - my next brew will definitely be from one. My last dark ale had a teabag of fresh hops thrown in as well - I didn't really notice their flavour but will keep experimenting with them + different yeasts

    I'm all about the dark ales/stouts/porters - anyone got a favourite? Ideally locally available in Brisbane (bonus points for on the south)

    Cheers brewers!

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      Rod71 on 28/09/2022 - 11:43

      +1

      Buy your hops in bulk from eBay etc. The tea bags from the home brew stores are useless, as they are only 12g or so.
      Try the Belgium chocolate stout recipe on the coopers website. Like any big brew it improves with age. I bottled mine in May, and it's amazing now.

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      Crowmanz on 29/09/2022 - 07:44

      If you are going to spend any money first step is temp control for fermentation (didn't see you mention it) - cheap 2nd hand fridge and an Inkbird. This will give the yeast the right temp to make the beer, and you can cold crash at the end of the ferment to clear the beer.

      For homebrew store with fwk on Brissy south side id go to Cannon Hill brewing they make their own fwk in house. If you are Bayside then craftbrewer in Capalaba. I'm also south side but mainly just order my supplies online from hoppydays or mates rates brewing (both north side based). Other big fwk makers are all in brewing - based off their commercial beers, they supply most homebrew stores.

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  Jf55 on 28/09/2022 - 09:15

  Is the shipping option working for anyone says its too bulky to ship with aus post on mine :(

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  tanabe88gg on 28/09/2022 - 09:34

  +3

  Can also be used to sous vide if you're curious

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    Gedrod on 28/09/2022 - 10:32

    +1

    Agree, I have done a whole pork shoulder in mine. Everyone was very impressed!

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    jong on 28/09/2022 - 16:37

    …don't tell me that; I don't need any more reasons to buy it!

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  HogynCymraeg on 29/09/2022 - 06:48

  Can this be used as a temperature controlled vat for bags of wort or is it grain only? Been looking for a way to keep brewing temperature constant with sensors etc but this seems like a way better option.

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    SBOB on 29/09/2022 - 07:04

    Not sure what bags of wort means, but yes.

    The idea of this is that it maintains the temp during mashing (while recirculating through the grain bed). Has a controller in it to maintain the setpoint you enter, which turns the element on/off

    You could even use it as a sous vide machine

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  opposablethumbs on 30/09/2022 - 12:22

  Anyone here that can offer advice on kegging?

  I've been homebrewing for decades and for current space and time I have available happy enough with results I get from extract brewing with a few tweaks.

  So that I can spend even less time on it, want to remove the bottling/priming step and make my first steps into kegging.

  Already have a 6kg CO2 cylinder through BOC subscription that I use for soda stream refills.

  Usually brew in 20-27L batches, depending on the style.

  Not sold on the corny kegs due to the slightly lesser volume than I usually have from a batch.

  Anyone have advice on a good starter setup with say 2-3 kegs?

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    SBOB on 30/09/2022 - 14:37

    +3

    Not cost effective to go anything other than corny keg for home brew scale (imo), for cost, re-sale, ease of spares, and moving around.
    Brew your batch size to hit the 19L corny keg capacity, or bottle a couple of extras if its over.

    Plenty of second hand gear around.
    Would drop the co2 rental though and go buy one from somewhere like kegking as the bottles are so cheap these days anyway.

    Cheap option is a second hand fridge off gumtree/facebook, buy some taps and DIY. Can fit 2-3 kegs in an upright fridge depending on size (small fridge 2, larger fridge 3). Chest freezer option would be other alternative, though might need to DIY a frame to raise the lid depending on depth. After that its dedicated mini fridge setups (again, from the likes of kegking)