[Unobtainable / Cancelled] Free Train Travel: RTBU NSW to Turn off Opal Readers at All Train Stations from Wed 21 September

Ljbird84 on 14/09/2022 - 14:42
Last edited 17/09/2022 - 23:44 by 3 other users

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Reason: Opal card readers will continue to operate on Wednesday. Please read the latest Twitter post by RTBU for details.

First time poster, long time reader. Unions NSW have announced their intent to shut off Opal readers at all train stations starting next Wednesday, 21 September, citing the need for safety improvements and a fair pay rise. I couldn't link to the precise Twitter post as I'm a newbie, but you can find the announcement on their @UnionsNSW account. The link provided goes to The Guardian's mention of the action. The tweet mentions that the NSW Gov't may work out a way to turn the readers back on, so we'll see. Text of the primary tweet is as follows.

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
All opal machines at train stations in Sydney and NSW will be turned off indefinitely, from Wednesday next week.
If there is no way to tap on or off, you cannot be fined. Please remain vigilant as the NSW Premier may try various tactics to turn machines on.

The Twitter thread continues on detailing the union's reasons for action, which could also be considered free reading material for your free train ride. Cheers.

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          • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2022 - 20:23
            -3

            @tommylikeaboss: @tommylikeaboss Get a dictionary, only the left gleefully redefine words examples include 'woman' and 'man'. 'Significant' has been given a new definition by you to be analogues to "catastrophic" were a business to "go bust". Certainly the causative nature of significant events can lead to catastrophic failures - no question.

            • tommylikeaboss on 14/09/2022 - 21:25
              +2

              @[Deactivated]: Relax brother, that is just what I believe significant means in the context of that law/rule, because the whole point of industrial action is to cause a bit of damage and make the company sweat. But ofc not to the extent that it needs to shut down.

              • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2022 - 22:16
                +1

                @tommylikeaboss: @tommylikeaboss ok mate noted … keep up the cogent discussion, actually I appreciate your subject matter contribution to the topic.

    • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:07
      +1

      strike action can take many avenues

      from simply not working and picketing to rolling stoppages to what they have done here and refuse to make people pay

    • kenplho on 19/09/2022 - 00:43
      +2

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-17/rail-union-cancels-pl…

      Guess it's not only me that thinks union workers turning off Opal machines is unlawful.

  • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 14:52
    +2

    "fair pay rise"

    you already get paid more than nurses, teachers, and almost all other public servants to press a button and go forward and back… man i hate unions

    • VXCT on 14/09/2022 - 14:55
      +48

      No, the solution should be to get nurses teacher and other frontline staffs to be paid more too, so Macquarie street would have less money to pay their mates $800K in London or $500K in NY for doing nothing…

      • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 14:58
        +30

        pretty much this.

        whilst ever politicians are frivolously spending huge sums on their mates, former political mates, mangers to manage managers to project manage other managers who are executives who have executive managers who manage ceos and other bullshit bloatware

        I will always side with the unions.

        (to confirm, I am not pro privatisation either, but our government is horrendously inefficient, people treat a government job as a job for life no matter how poorly you perform)

        • nyteshaiid on 14/09/2022 - 15:10

          You managed to say a lot there champ

          • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:11
            +18

            @nyteshaiid: I am a manager, that's my job, to type a lot of nothing with as many words as possible

        • greennick on 14/09/2022 - 15:25
          +1

          I mean, the point about it being a job for life, with pay higher than deserved and low productivity probably also applies to many union jobs, yeah?

          • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:27
            +4

            @greennick: I dont really care what people in the private system get paid as their wage isn't funded by public money gained via taxes

            • greennick on 14/09/2022 - 15:31

              @MrThing: I thought the unions striking were being paid by public money?

              • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:33
                +4

                @greennick: the unions want to work, but they want a fair go

                if you want to just screw everyone down and erode the middle class move to america plz

                • greennick on 14/09/2022 - 15:41
                  +7

                  @MrThing: I am just trying to reconcile you being against a bloating public sector, then supporting one of the primary causes of bloating in the public sector. It seems you support unions as long as they're for blue collar workers, but unions for white collar PS workers are a waste of taxpayer dollars?

      • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 15:24
        +1

        i want a pay raise too. maybe i should just say "nah, im not working till you give me more money…"

        oh wait - i'd lose my job. Unions have no respect from me, and are archaic and need to die

        • jjcf on 14/09/2022 - 15:39
          +18

          You are this close to getting it.

          • ThithLord on 14/09/2022 - 16:05
            +8

            @jjcf: You give them way too much credit lmao

          • lancesta on 16/09/2022 - 11:01

            @jjcf: I saw this two days ago and honestly this has been stuck in my head. I'm not sure if this is the line where the mindset is different but it comes pretty close.

        • tommylikeaboss on 14/09/2022 - 16:47

          What field do u work in?

      • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 16:21
        +2

        Who's going to pay for it? They'll raise taxes, or the price of fares more, making it more expensive for everyone else, causing people to not use the service because they can't afford, causing job loss.

        They need to get over themselves, and thinking train drivers are worth more than they are. They're paid sufficiently for what they do. Unions just need to die, they're the biggest scumbags

        • ThithLord on 14/09/2022 - 16:39
          +2

          What are the safety issues? Here's three:

          1 Guard doors automatically lock, preventing guards from assisting passengers on entry and departure (Elderly and the lesser abled will be fine, I'm sure)
          2 CCTV blind spot below 1.1 metres. Children, prams, etc. are in this blind spot (Oh I can't imagine that'd be dangerous!)
          3 CCTV screens are in drivers line of sight (Perfect!)
          4 To end the dispute, the NSW Government offered rail workers an $18,000 bonus earlier this year to drop their safety concerns.

          Rail workers refused.

          You can't trade off safety for cash.

          Stop embarrassing yourself.

    • Nillionaire on 14/09/2022 - 15:13
      +22

      you already get paid more than nurses, teachers,

      Solution:

      • Pay public transport workers more
      • Pay nurses more
      • Pay teachers more
      • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 15:25

        why do train drivers need more money? they press a button to go forward and back. my 3 year old son can do that!

        • Zondor on 14/09/2022 - 15:44
          +6

          Have you seen the house prices of Sydney?

        • sp0rk on 14/09/2022 - 16:39
          +7

          Yeah you have no idea how trains operate, do you?
          Passenger trains move at fairly high speeds and have to predict and sight risks far ahead of them and control speed & braking at the same time.
          Us guys in bulk/minerals drive 1.5km long trains that take a few km to stop
          Not to mention understanding signalling, track & running laws, safety principles, mechanics & dynamic forces within trains, etc
          I've worked in a lot of industries through my life
          This is way harder than most

          • Juice-Wa on 15/09/2022 - 10:06
            -1

            @sp0rk: So you what you actually mean it's a little less complicated than driving an automatic transmission car???

            • sp0rk on 15/09/2022 - 15:37

              @Juice-Wa: If that's what you took away from that, I can see you would struggle to even comprehend how to release a handbrake…

              • Juice-Wa on 20/09/2022 - 08:35
                -1

                @sp0rk: What I took away from it is that it would be extremely easy to automate. Don't pretend like it's a difficult job, hardest part would be keeping awake and alert (furthering the push for automation).

                signalling, track & running laws, safety principles, mechanics & dynamic forces

                This is what a 16 year old learns to do with a car on their learners, except with trains you're dealing with a fraction of variables. Just remember that cars aren't currently automated on Australian roads, but Australian trains are already being automated.

                I can see you would struggle to even comprehend how to release a handbrake…

                Sling mud all you like there buddy but remember it will be engineers like me who will be automating such simple functions over the next 5-10 years, so try and be nice to us ;)

                • sp0rk on 21/09/2022 - 08:39

                  @Juice-Wa: If you think dynamic forces in a car are the same as a 1.5km long train, you really are as stupid as I thought
                  Mate, I was an engineer in a past life too (heating element/systems engineer), engineers out of uni have no idea about the real world and learn the hard way how replaceable they are very quickly

                  • Juice-Wa on 21/09/2022 - 10:55

                    @sp0rk:

                    you really are as stupid as I thought

                    Ah yes, an emotional and vague response as expected. "understanding dynamic forces" was the example you gave which is pretty broad. There are dynamic forces in many applications, someone using a breaker bar to undo a wheel nut has to understand and react to dynamic forces. Understanding and applying a dynamic response to a dynamic force is nothing special.

                    Just because you couldn't hack it as an engineer, does make everyone equally replaceable.

                    engineers out of uni have no idea about the real world

                    Yep, just like first year apprentices and trainees, sorry they didn't come out of uni with 10 years of experience. Good thing not all engineers are graduates. But know that it's graduates that are helping to automate trains ;) I'm not sure how you can hold so fast on it being such a complex task, it's one of the most automated modes of transportation in the world. The way the world is heading I wouldn't consider it a very secure job, hopefully you're nearing retirement soon.

        • twig on 14/09/2022 - 16:50
          +8

          "Tell me you're ignorant without telling me you're ignorant"

          https://files.jobs.nsw.gov.au/eesc32

          It takes a special type of person - organised, reliable, punctual, committed
          and trustworthy.
          We know it’s certainly an attractive role, but becoming a Train Driver is no walk
          in the park. Just like studying to become a medical doctor, lawyer, or engineer,
          being a Trainee Train Driver will require a lot of hard work and sacrifice. At
          some points it can feel hard and grueling - it’s not for everyone.
          Before you can begin working as a fully-fledged Train Driver, you will need to
          complete a rigorous, 12-month training program that includes classroom
          learning, on-the-job training as well as a significant amount of home study and
          exams. We stick to tight training schedules that include early mornings,
          evenings and weekends, meaning that you will have to miss out on important
          occasions with your family and friends from time-to-time.
          Once your training is complete, you will still need to work to a tight schedule, as
          we are relying on you to show up every day and keep the complex train
          network running. You may need to work unusual hours; early mornings and late
          nights, making sure that every customer makes it to their destination safely.
          You will need to ensure that you come to work with absolutely no alcohol or
          prohibited drugs in your system and submit to random testing regularly. You
          will also need to perform well in high-pressure situations, always keeping the
          safety of our customers at the heart of everything you do.
          This Information Pack contains everything you need to know before applying
          for a role with Sydney Trains. Read it and think carefully about whether the role
          is right for you.

          • Gladioli on 14/09/2022 - 19:21
            +3

            @twig: Lol, this makes it sound like turning up for work on time is as hard as studying to become a doctor or engineer. Gee, driving a train is a tough job. You have to turn up to work on time and not take drugs. Very high standards. I'm glad I took the easy route and studied engineering, though it would be nice to have the pay of those fancy, clever, punctual train drivers! But I guess I'll just never reach that level.

            • DealBreaker87 on 15/09/2022 - 18:06

              @Gladioli: what kind of engineer cant make more than 75k lol

              • Gladioli on 16/09/2022 - 07:13

                @DealBreaker87: Perhaps you missed the sarcasm. That said, entry level engineer salaries are generally lower than those of these train drivers and you have to do all your training up front.

          • chriise on 14/09/2022 - 21:23

            @twig: If I wanted to learn how to teach people to drive trains, would that make me a Trainee Train Trainer?

      • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:26
        +11

        exactly, to say they get paid more than Nurses and Techers just highlights something else

        they are ALSO underpaid!

        • Juice-Wa on 15/09/2022 - 10:13
          -1

          Or that nurses should be paid significantly more than glorified taxi drivers

      • Ham Dragon on 14/09/2022 - 15:41
        +7

        more
        more
        more

        And where, perchance, is the additional revenue to sustain these pay rises coming from?

        • Zondor on 14/09/2022 - 15:44
          +11

          The record profits corpo's have been recording and yet no tax paid.

          Like IKEA

          • Ham Dragon on 14/09/2022 - 15:48
            +4

            @Zondor: Multinational corps don't pay income tax to state governments…

            As this is a public infrastructure service being heavily subsidised by the state, it's clear that either services / expenditure to other portfolios is reduced, or revenue is raised elsewhere (usually borrowed). I'm not saying nurses, teachers & train conductors don't deserve more pay (absolutely the first two do) but it's going to come at a cost to the public, one way or another, through some levy or charge. Typical gunboat diplomacy by a militant union who is trying to justify member fees by holding the government to ransom.

            • Zondor on 14/09/2022 - 15:58
              +4

              @Ham Dragon: "Multinational corps don't pay income tax to state governments"

              That's what I'm saying, they should. While I agree to their sheer scale paying less tax is OK, they still should pay tax.

              If a local company wants to start making bulk furniture in the same vein, it's not fair to them when these corpo's just outright get a better deal and contribute nothing back.

              • Ham Dragon on 14/09/2022 - 16:00
                +5

                @Zondor: 100% with you on MNCs paying their fair share, just don't see how that and state government revenue are related, or how it solves the issue of spiralling wage costs in heavily unionised public sector jobs. The sort of shit like this the unions pull really does push the argument for privatisation.

      • kenplho on 14/09/2022 - 15:59
        +12

        Think our train driver salaries are already among the highest in the world:
        - Canada: $47,686 CAD, ~$56k AUD
        - Germany: $39,248 EUR, ~$58k AUD
        - US: $43,788 USD, ~$65k AUD
        - Switzerland: $44,100 CHD, ~$68k AUD
        - UK: $48,500 GBP, ~$83k AUD
        - Australia: $103k AUD

        Meanwhile, for teachers (primary school example):
        - Germany: $80k USD
        - Canada: $71k USD
        - Netherlands: $71k USD
        - Australia: $66k USD
        - US: $62k USD

        • sp0rk on 14/09/2022 - 16:29
          +12

          This is misleading
          First year teachers make $66k (it's usually above $70k)
          But by your third year, you're usually closer to $110k
          My wife is a Year 1 teacher with Special Needs qualifications, she makes a bit more than this but her coworkers make about that much
          The rate for train drivers is also HIGHLY skewed, due to coal train drivers like me and the guys in WA carting minerals
          We make roughly $120k without penalties or overtime once you're a Level 4 mainline driver (basically a fully qualified driver)
          With your penalties and very little overtime, you can easily make $150k a year or over $200k with moderate overtime
          I have mates that drive passenger trains, most are making $90k maximum

          • kenplho on 14/09/2022 - 16:48
            +4

            @sp0rk: Is it though? I just took the average on Glassdoor for both, which is self reported. If you have 1st hand benchmarks overseas I'd be keen to hear it. The train driver salary was taken from passenger trains already, excluding mining/resources salaries. If we want to be specific about Sydney trains, the average from Glassdoor would be $88k (https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sydney-Trains-Train-Driver-…), with ~200 reported salaries.

            Overall, I don't think numbers are that far off.
            - For teachers, $66k USD converts to $98k AUD, which is ~10% lower than what you mentioned a 3rd year would make (~$110k), but still lower than other countries like Germany
            - For passenger trains, whether $103k (national passenger average) or $88k (Sydney trains average), or $90k (from your mates), it's still the highest in the world.

            The point being that our train drivers are already paid highest in the world, while our teachers aren't.

            • downbythecreek on 14/09/2022 - 17:23
              +3

              @kenplho: Teachers have a much, much higher training burden as well - usually 4 years unpaid.

              I don't know what qualifications a train driver actually requires, but I have a friend who became one in QLD, he had zero qualifications, was paid from day 1 and the training was all provided.

            • bettina44 on 14/09/2022 - 17:26
              +2

              @kenplho: you need to factor in cost of living too

              • kenplho on 14/09/2022 - 17:52
                +2

                @bettina44: Sure, again taking averages (https://livingcost.org/cost). Of the peer list:
                - Switzerland: $2.5k per month (~32% higher than Australia, while train drivers earn 34% more in Australia)
                - US: $2.1k per month (~10% higher than Australia, while train drivers earn 37% more in Australia)
                - Australia: $1.9k per month
                - UK: $1.8k per month (~5% lower than Australia, while train drivers earn 19% more in Australia)
                - Canada: $1.8k per month (~5% lower than Australia, while train drivers earn 46% more in Australia)
                - Germany: $1.3k per month (~32% lower than Australia, while train drivers earn 44% more in Australia)

                Even in Germany where living expenses are significantly lower, the % difference in train driver salary still outweighs % differences in living expenses. The others are pretty much in line or above Australia in terms of living expenses, while paying their train drivers less.

          • lancesta on 14/09/2022 - 17:59
            +1

            @sp0rk: Tbh I'm actually surprised about teacher salary, its increased heaps since I last checked (probably 10 years ago). Honestly don't understand why they'd start them so low. Definitely hit a cap pretty quickly. Only way up is through management (and for NSW there's some alternative method very little people have been through but that caps pretty quick).

        • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2022 - 20:26
          +3

          It is not simply the drivers wages the union is trying preserve - it is the thousands of bullshit jobs that accompany them in the bloated PS.

        • chriise on 14/09/2022 - 21:24

          Teacher salaries are messed up

      • eggplant on 14/09/2022 - 15:59
        +1

        A reasonable solution if taxpayers are willing to foot the bill because government coffers don't just magically materialise.

      • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 16:22
        +1

        And where are you magically pulling this money from?

        • lancesta on 14/09/2022 - 17:54

          same place they pull it from to fund those London and New York postings. It does matter but where government gets money to do things is another issue in itself.

      • Ninad on 14/09/2022 - 16:44
        +1

        I think the point is not every job probably deserves high pay. In many countries, public transport employees are very low-level jobs. Mostly people who are not well educated. In contrast, nurses/teachers on the other hand impart a lot more to society. Also, pay being proportional to the money spent on related education as well as skill level is lot more logical. It feels a bit wrong that someone who has studied long and hard, paid huge fees and still the pay is similar to low skill jobs.

    • eecan on 14/09/2022 - 15:39
      +11

      I love it how people suddenly care about teachers and nurses as some sort of model compliant workforce when train strikes come up.

      Guess what? They have unions and are striking too lol. And they should.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/catholic-and-public-s…

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-01/sydney-news-nurses-go…

      • lancesta on 14/09/2022 - 17:57
        +1

        tbh I don't think they're doing enough. Like the teacher union hasn't really managed to stop the increase in workload, particularly bureaucratic work that doesn't have heaps of value. They also have some really silly accreditation practices and fees which have somehow been allowed to happen.

    • ausdday on 14/09/2022 - 15:57
      +4

      Yes, their fair pay might not be justified, but at least they still have to turn up to work and press a button.

      Aussies pay former PM hundreds of thousands per year EACH for doing nothing. Many of them weren't even competent enough to complete a 5 year term.

    • ThithLord on 14/09/2022 - 16:06
      +1

      What are the safety issues? Here's three:

      1 Guard doors automatically lock, preventing guards from assisting passengers on entry and departure (Elderly and the lesser abled will be fine, I'm sure)

      2 CCTV blind spot below 1.1 metres. Children, prams, etc. are in this blind spot (Oh I can't imagine that'd be dangerous!)

      3 CCTV screens are in drivers line of sight (Perfect!)

      4 To end the dispute, the NSW Government offered rail workers an $18,000 bonus earlier this year to drop their safety concerns.

      Rail workers refused.

      You can't trade off safety for cash.

      This is why they are undertaking industrial actions. You can remain ignorant if you like, but cease commenting on this matter if you wish to remain ignorant

      • ausdday on 14/09/2022 - 16:47

        IF safety is their only concern, and nothing to do with their pay, why not just stop driving the new train, or only drive the old train. Does keeping the Opal gate open solve anything? If anything, keep the gate open will encourage free rides on dangerous train?

      • nomadspartan on 15/09/2022 - 09:58
        +1

        How come these safety issues only exist in Australia? Most other delveoped countries use trains that don't have guards and I don't hear about any issues regarding that. I heard that in Victoria they don't even have guards anymore. So why is it a safety issue in NSW?

    • sp0rk on 14/09/2022 - 16:25
      +9

      Passenger train drivers in NSW do not get paid more than teachers
      Source: I'm a train driver and my wife is a teacher

      • ThithLord on 14/09/2022 - 16:35
        +5

        It's not even relevant anyways, they'll complain as well when teachers demand fairer pay.

    • tonsta on 14/09/2022 - 17:02

      No this is not about fair pay… it’s about fixing the trains that the gov has agreed to… or am I missing something?

      • ThithLord on 14/09/2022 - 17:48
        +5

        They refuse to put it in writing. Why on god's green earth would any union trust the NSW Government if they won't put it in writing?

    • franz87 on 14/09/2022 - 18:18
      +1

      I’m a teacher and I support the train drivers 100%. I can’t believe this has to be said, but the solution to my atrocious pay is not less money for the train drivers. Good on them and their union for be able to fight for and win better pay than mine.

      • tabboo on 14/09/2022 - 18:20

        No ones saying one comes at the expense of the other, but the government always says "but we have no money for a pay increase" so why should low skilled workers get more of an increase because an archaic union that has power over the government says so?

        From: someone who studied teaching, but didn't peruse because career growth options are extremely minimal

  • Spacexyz on 14/09/2022 - 14:52

    So the deal is FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORT within NSW?

    • SnowDragon on 14/09/2022 - 15:01
      +2

      Only trains AFAIK

      • xoom on 14/09/2022 - 15:11

        But if they shut the opal system itself. Then it would affect the light rail bus and ferry.

        • GG57 on 14/09/2022 - 15:16

          Only in Sydney?

        • Jec on 14/09/2022 - 15:31

          Just going from other comments, it seems like they're flipping circuit breakers at the station or something more local, rather than affecting the whole system.

          • xoom on 14/09/2022 - 15:32

            @Jec: Then its just trains then. Thought it be more leet hax0r than that but i guess not.

  • Jumpingmanjim on 14/09/2022 - 14:53
    +12

    I'm imagining the premier with a screwdriver sneaking around train stations trying to turn opal machines back on.

  • stan-C on 14/09/2022 - 15:01
    +3

    great deal finally

  • silenthillrocks on 14/09/2022 - 15:03

    Free transport to get to your queen mourning place

  • timli on 14/09/2022 - 15:03
    +4

    The last few weeks with the strikes there's been staff who told people not to tap on at the stations.
    I have then seen that there are ticket inspectors (probably non-unionised scabs) who board the trains and fine people for not tapping on.

    Hesitant to not tap on. What's $10 compared to a $200 fine.

    • CUD on 14/09/2022 - 15:11

      That was before a public statement though. There's no way they'd fine people after an official statement that the system will be offline.

      • greennick on 14/09/2022 - 15:26

        100% they would. Unions don't make government policy and you can bet your bottom dollar the government would like to underline that point.

      • tonsta on 14/09/2022 - 17:09
        +1

        They are turning off the reader which means you actually cannot pay for the fare even if you wanted to. Just because some dude on TV or twitter says you don’t need to tap means nothing. If the same guy said to you, you can smash the vending machine on the platform and take anything you want, do you think that will stand up in court?

    • xoom on 14/09/2022 - 15:12
      +7

      If you cannot tap on/off how can they fine you?

    • pennypincher98 on 14/09/2022 - 15:24
      +2

      Not all stations have gates to walk through. It is your responsibility to find an Opal reader and tap on. Gates being open doesn't stop that.

      If no Opal readers are available, they cannot take your fare and thus cannot fine you. What was quite common on one door buses during COVID-19 was one Opal reader was blocked (social distancing requirement) and the other one wasn't online so hence you got a free ride as you were unable to pay your fare.

    • pakkapie on 14/09/2022 - 15:25
      +4

      Why did you go down the path of calling inspectors scabs? Are they under the same workplace (pretty sure they're not) as rail staff?

      I'm open to reasonable debate, but their role is unrelated and not subject to industrial action. Thus they're simply doing their jobs. Not sure they deserve your hate for this

      • FutureTech on 14/09/2022 - 17:43
        +1

        I feel sorry for them - imagine the daily abuse and harrassment they receive for just doing their job (and not having a gun to defend themselves)

    • franz87 on 14/09/2022 - 18:20

      How do you tap on if all terminals are turned off friend?

      • whyisave on 14/09/2022 - 21:53

        maybe terminals are not turned off,
        ie. the terminals will still 'beep',
        but the back-end servers may not function to process that tap.

        i don't know, but just thinking aloud.

  • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:03
    +1

    This is all over the mainstream news pages

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rail-unions-to-switch-of…

  • IMadeYouReadThis on 14/09/2022 - 15:03
    +8

    why not, wasted enough taxpayer's money on John Barilaro matter - at lease this one comes back to taxpayer's pocket!

    • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:06
      +3

      fukn luigi, what a toxic corrupt piece of shit he is

    • tonsta on 14/09/2022 - 17:15

      That guy is bad news everywhere he goes.

      Goes to US, get Stuart Ayres fired.
      Goes to Merrylands, get Eleni Petinos fired.

  • Fredfloresjr on 14/09/2022 - 15:04
    +9

    Thanks OP.

    Hope we get robots to operate the train soon.

    And the OPAL machines.

    • MrThing on 14/09/2022 - 15:05
      +3

      and the government

    • happyangus on 14/09/2022 - 15:07
      +5

      So you're saying currently there's someone sitting inside each opal machine operating it? 😂

      • Fredfloresjr on 14/09/2022 - 15:08
        +1

        Yep and massaging ALL the passengers inside the train.

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