New study reveals why diet cola could increase your risk of death
No more sugar free drinks then?
What about Coke Zero then? I don't really enjoy the taste of Diet Coke, but I don't mind Coke Zero. Honestly, what is the different between those two anyway?
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“These food additives, consumed daily by millions of people, should not be considered a healthy and safe alternative to sugar.”
There's the payload, without the NewsCorp clickbait. Everything is going to kill you on a long enough timeframe. All the study showed is that artificial sweeteners are not that much better for you than sugar, so if you're drinking Diet Coke or Coke Zero because you think it's healthy, think again.
What about coke zero then?
Coke Zero isn't good for you either, for the same reasons.
Coke Zero isn't good for you either, for the same reasons
So coke zero just use different sweetener?
Actually no, surprisingly (as I'd originally thought). They both use aspartame, but Coke Zero has a different flavour base. Pepsi Max also uses aspartame.
Coke Zero and Diet Coke are trying to achieve different goals.
Coke Zero is trying to emulate coke, but without sugar.
Diet Coke is trying to emulate coke, but with minimal calories.
Even Coke Zero can kill you, if you freeze it into a ice pick shape and someone stabs you with it. The perfect crime.
This is why I drink Pepsi Max. The safe alternative.
Max sugar free taste?
The findings from this large scale prospective cohort study suggest a potential direct association between higher artificial sweetener consumption (especially aspartame, acesulfame potassium and sucralose) and increased cardiovascular disease risk
Sooo, basically just as bad as normal coke?
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Just throwing it out there, people that consume large amounts of coke aren't exactly the healthiest to start with so would have be more pre-disposed to heart attacks?
Coke or coke or both?
Apologies you're quite right.
Either or.
The last bit surely had to have been controlled for?
You'd like to think so right
You mean: a large Randomised Double blinded placebo controlled study?
Is it true or did you read it in any newscorp media source
Nah it's actually legit. Here's the study. The findings (modulo the study limitations) are that you're not that much better off drinking Diet Coke than you are regular Coke, and that drinking more of the diet version because you're foregoing sugar for sweeteners and "It's healthier and I'm worth it, brah" is a bad idea.
In a trial published in the British Medical Journal, which spanned 12 years and involved 103,000 people, researchers found that total artificial sweetener intake was associated with increased risk of fatal conditions such as heart disease and stroke.
Those consuming sweeteners above the median had a heart disease rate of 346 per 100,000 – 10 per cent higher than the average rate of 314 per 100,000 for those not consuming sweeteners.
Yeah but actual numbers are too confusing for news.com.au readers….
I thought this was Slav sharing another Guardian article actually, and using it to talk about the fatties
Such a shame, missed opportunity
I don’t think the confounders in this study are examined as well as they could be:
Some limitations should be discussed. Residual confounding cannot be totally excluded and no causal relation can be established with results from a unique observational study. However, models were adjusted for a wide range of potential sociodemographic, anthropometric, dietary, and lifestyle confounders. Further adjustment for the proportion of ultra-processed food in the diet was conducted, ensuring that the associations observed were not entirely driven by following an ultra-processed diet in general.72 Additionally, reverse causality could lead to higher artificially sweetened food and beverage consumption among participants who were overweight or obese, and already had poorer cardiovascular health at baseline before CVD diagnosis.7374 However, this factor probably does not entirely explain the observed associations because we excluded CVD events occurring during the first two years of follow-up and we also tested models adjusted for baseline body mass index, weight loss diet, and weight change during follow-up, which did not substantially change the results.
Yeah the study comparators are done woefully. Eg.
People in the "high sweetener intake" group, compared with the "no sweetener" group had:
All of which are independent predictors of CVD risk - and all of which could explain the increase in strokes/MI without the presence of sweeteners.
Not to mention the weird gender bias in the study data anyway. (what with the general population not being, you know, 80% female….)
So can water
well guess i'm not drinking water anymore. Have any recommendations for a good Diet water?
There's water in Pepsi Max, so Pepsi Max
Headline:
New study reveals why diet cola could increase your risk of death
Increase your risk of death from 100% to 100% 🤔
I’m guessing they mean reduce your life span
Bhaha
I'm just going to stick to smoking a pack a day and lay off the unhealthy diet drinks!
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Must be true then
don't drink soft drinks, sugar or sugarless. problem solved.
the preliminary study only revealed an association, probably fatties trying to cut out sugary drinks.
i'm pretty sure aspartame has been studied extensively in the past and found to be harmless in the quantities that people are likely to consume it in. i'd take artificial sweetners over sugared soft drinks, but no soft drinks is even better
Everything is unhealthy depending on the politics of the person or the organization that does the studies.
Seriously, it's like Vitamin C. On one study they said it was healthy, on another it was not. There was one study saying flossing was good for you (said the ADA) but another study said flossing actually harmed your gum and only marginally cleaner vs normal toothbrushing.
If you actually READ THE STUDY: https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071204
The main models were adjusted for several variables suspected or known to be associated with diet and with CVD risk: sociodemographic (age, sex, educational level), lifestyle (smoking status, number of smoked cigarettes, physical activity), and health (family history of CVD) factors, and food groups and nutrients for which a role in CVD cause has been strongly suggested
NO mention of adjustment for weight, to which they actually had data for, but never adjusted for …
Who is more likely to try "sugar free" products in order to "lose weight"? Obese people …
It is also well established that obese people have a higher rate of death than the normal population …
The study did not adjust for weight, although it did adjust for physical activity - just another flawed "observational study" that failed to identify confounding variables :/
The conclusion should have been "obese people that try no sugar products as a means of weight loss still have an increased risk of death vs normal population"!! But guessing that doesn't warrant a press release and news headlines for the authors ;)
Correlation does not equal causation, they havent mentioned OR commented on the mechanistic reasons as to why this relationship is present. More than likely the people that have diet drinks like @7ekn00 mentioned are probably people with other risk factors and comorbidities.
Would have thought OP’s fav drink is Taro Milk Tea?
Just depends on who's paying for the survey/research, and the right questions to get the right answers.
Wife and I share a 375ml Bundaberg fizzy after dinner most nights. We know it's loaded with sugar.
Time to Soda-stream pomegranate juice?
This old chestnut again.
Who drinks diet drinks? people who want to reduce calories. Who normally want to reduce calories? people who are needing to lose weight usually due to new/existing health issues. Of course they’re going to be at higher risk.
I never drank a diet anything until I hit my 30’s and was in the overweight BMI category (while no longer bulking in the gym).
"New new study reveals that reading News Corp articles rots your brain."
Actually, it was observational, and merely showed a correlation between brain rot and reading news.com.
Maybe people who already had brain rot are more likely to read/watch newscorp?
This is old news. My understanding is that when you eat/drink sweet things your brain registers the sugar 'hit'. However with artificial sweetners, your tongue is tasting the sweet taste but your brain doesn't get the desired chemical 'hit'. So the brain's response is to continue the craving sensation. Other studies have shown that people who consume drinks and foods with artificial sweetners tend to eat more than they otherwise would, which would naturally result in a higher risk of death. No i can't quote a study, i read it somewhere. Google it.
Why would anyone put coke up their ass in the first place is beyond me. What do you think was going to happen?
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