My mother bought a dog for $2000, sent him the money.
She changed her mind as she was not ready for the dog. He wont send the money back, and has the dog still.
Is there anything we can do ?
My mother was scammed, looking for advice on people who have experience in the matter
[Deactivated] on 13/09/2022 - 17:50
Last edited 13/09/2022 - 17:59
Last edited 13/09/2022 - 17:59
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What do you mean?
She sent him $2000. He has the dog, and the money.
In this case she maybe should've just paid a deposit.
Honestly i think she should say get $1500 back and the seller keeps the rest for time wasted.Emotions, yes they exist but it's not an excuse.
I agree. I would even be happy for him to keep $500 for time wasted.
How is this a scam? Is he refusing to give your mum what she paid for? Buying need to do research before buying things.
Yeah he is. He's completely ignoring us.
@[Deactivated]: Is he ignoring you because you kept demanding a refund and nothing else, did you attempt to find middle ground? (and did you get abusive with him?)
This is a civil matter not a police/criminal matter so you probably need to look at the small claims court or the likes, it's probably worth seeking legal advice first though..
@[Deactivated]: Appears you either find people ignoring you or people scamming you when things not work in your favour. Maybe you’re impatient?
Is there anything we can do ?
How was the dog supposed to be sent to your mom? shouldn't it have been a COD? That's the first mistake.
If you mom sends(transfers) $2000 to a random stranger selling a dog, sight unseen, location unknown… this didn't seem like it was going to turn out well either way. Game over it would seem.
"Mum". Get a dog up ya!
How was she scammed? She willingly agreed to purchase something and willing paid money for it, then changed her mind later on.
Because she said she didn't want it? Seller is under no obligation to issue a deposit refund that was willingly sent.
What you probably should do is request the dog you paid for now. You're not technically entitled to any money back if you don't, but it's at the seller's discretion whether they agree or not.
She changed her mind.
So shes best off just taking the dog, and selling the dog?
@[Deactivated]: Take the dog. It has only been 30 mins since you posted this and suddenly you are claiming the seller is completely ignoring you now?
People have things to do, they cannot be replying to your every need/question.
You already sound like a difficult person to deal with.
@[Deactivated]: Because he's tired of your time wasting. Ask for the dog. Give the dog to me. Problem solved and one happy doggo
A scam is when someone knowingly and purposely dupes you. This is called a change of mind
Your mum changed her mind and didn't want the dog. The seller maybe has gotten sick of your refund requests and is ignoring you. It worries me that you think this is what constitutes a scam.
Title re-correction: My mother CHANGED HER MIND, looking for advice FROM people who have experience in the matter
FROM people who have experience in the matter
Experience with buyer's remorse? Maybe the five stages of grief will help some..
I mean as it is they're asking for advice on people who have experience in the matter, so I'm not sure how advice on other people will help their mother. But I think you're right, maybe some therapy might help them too
impulse buying a living creature, yikes
Yeah this entire post makes me feel a bit unwell. Especially this comment:
"So shes best off just taking the dog, and selling the dog?"
Poor thing just getting passed around. This happens all the time, too.
Well, I guess this depends on the contract.
If the contract provided that the money was a refundable deposit, your mother might have a claim.
If the contract did not, your mother paid the purchase price in full, then repudiated the contract by refusing to accept delivery of the dog, the breeder has likely accepted that repudiation, brought the contract to an end, and been relieved of the obligation to complete.
If its the latter, I'm not sure why you think your mother than renege on her contract, then get her money back.No contract. Over the phone, can I buy for 2k? Yes. Money sent. Then she called to say she changed her mind.
That sounds a lot like a contract.
Puppy scam. She wasn't going to get a dog even if she wanted one.
So you will sell things and wait for them to change their mind? That is not a lucrative business
So you don't think the kind thing to do is to say all good, how about 1500 back for my trouble?
You'd keep 2 grand, essentially for nothing. Then he'll sell the dog for another 2k.
Me personally I'd send it back.
@[Deactivated]: I agree you would hope the seller would send back the money (or at least the majority of it). But some people are greedy and ready to take advantage at any opportunity.
@[Deactivated]: You are mixing being kind and business. Two different things. The seller is contractually obliged to deliver the goods. It seems the seller has no issue in doing that. Why do you expect the seller to change their business model because you (your mother) wants to back out of a legally binding contract? If you order a burger at Maccas and then decide you're not hungry do you expect them to process a refund for you because you changed your mind?
There is certainly a case for requesting a mutually-beneficial outcome (ie. just keeping some of the deposit) but when you renege on your side of a contract you are not starting in a strong bargaining position.
Police shouldn’t do sh1t because this is a civil matter and your mums name is Karen
People on here can be really unsympathetic. It's really a jerk move by the seller not to refund you, at least partially. Very bad karma for the seller. Hopefully it will come back to bite him later in life.
I agree that you were definitely scammed if he's keeping the full 2k and not giving you the dog.
Try contacting the bank, maybe to say you made an incorrect payment to the wrong account number and you want to claw it back. Not sure if that'll work.
Yeah I am kind of done with this forum, it almost seems to make people here feel good people make life mistakes. You see it in the traffic accident posts too.
She was super attached to her dog that died, he died of cancer. He was a really sweet dog. 3/5 people in my family also have cancer, so the dog got her through that stress.She was alone, and wasnt thinking straight when she agreed. I wasnt told until it was too late, I would have told her to just pay a deposit not the whole thing.
Im just going to pay her the $2000, and tell her to let this go as a life lesson. Hope this guy has a great time with the money. Hes keeping the money, and put the ad back up for the dog, so score for him I guess.
I regret posting here since people are just making fun of her. Don't think ill be using this place anymore, just isnt a nice group of people.Yes he is technically in the right, it just wouldnt sit right with me if I were him to keep a womans $2k, and the dog. I would at the least say ill give you $1500 back for the trouble you've caused, not the whole thing though.
She changed her mind because she was emotionally (profanity) up, it was only over night. Its not like the guy made arrangements for 3 weeks.
What kind of dog?
And we want to see the dog parents photos too
OP, did your mother just pay some random on gumtree or in classifieds for the dog?
Did she deal with a registered ANKC breeder? Or just from some mixed litter the seller advertised?
From your description, didn't sound like she had contact with a registered breeder as they take deposits and usually put you on waiting lists.
I don't understand why people don't do more research in to how to properly buy a dog. I've bought a dog online before but I dealt with a registered breeder who had years of photo evidence of her current dogs and past litters and regularly sent me visual updates of the puppy before I got her.
It's like all the dumbarses who go to a pet store, see a dog in the window and buy on impulse. And judging from my observations, there are a lot of them.
What's with the edited post? Such as removing where she bought the dog from (Gumtree) and her father (interesting way to refer to your grandfather?) showing her the post on Gumtree?
Ha! Father pressured her to buy the dog. Blame is an easy thing to allocate elsewhere to where it actually belongs.
The seller should be charging your mum like $65 per day kennelling fee, for each extra day the seller has to hold onto your mum's dog.
With the stupid prices are paying for pet dogs these day then maybe you could look at drop-shipping the animal. That is, sell the dog yourself and have the breeder send the dog directly to the buyer. You could even make a profit.
Drop-shipping seems to work well on eBay!2k actually already cheap now, during covid same dog could be priced 3.5k and people buying
Reverse scam. Buyer does not what what was agreed to purchase.
It happened to me something similiar, I put a deposit down $500 for a dog at 8pm then when I got home at 9pm I called up and said I don’t want the dog. He said no refunds. It was only a hour .
What happened in one hour that made you change your mind?
Doggone it!
Why dont you go pickup the dog and keep it till shes ready or take it to a kennel..
but as for being scammed, give yourself an uppercut for the click bait incorrect title.
Hmm send me 1999.99 and i will get your 2k back plus 10% daily interest! Sound good enough? I can throw in brand new ps5 too….
call the bank if its a bank transfer. they might help.
I should have done this, bloody good idea
Is there anything we can do ?
Go collect the dog that your mother purchased.
Its called a change of mind refund, look it up.
If not responding only option is to go around and pick the dog up and list it by yourself / mother for sale elsewhere.
If he is holding the money and the dog pretty sure that is theft whichever way you want to call it and will need to involve the police.
It's more like impulse buying a house at an auction. Paying the deposit. Then saying, I don't want it and crying why I am not getting my deposit back.
2K is a cute name for a dog.
This is ozbargain. You never pay $2k for a dog
That's why i still don't have one :(
You should get the dog and if the seller refuses to do it, then it would truly be a scam and you can initiate bank transfer reversal on the grounds of fraud.
I am assuming you would have the seller's details.
And of course the OP disabled their account after they didn’t get the responses they wanted.
Sure this is a troll post
As a retired ex ankc breeder. Is the dog near you do you have an address that you can go to and pick up dog. I would have refunded money as l want my pups too go to loving homes
this is #1 priority for me. If you have no address did she view.the pup over Facebook or somewhere else. The buyer May will charge kenneling fees to puppy sold.Not a scam if you agree to buy it and then pay and now don't want it.
wait a minute, so your mom is trying to scam the seller? has paid to secure and then changed her mind?