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SodaKING Spark Sparkling Water Machine (White) $39.99 (Was $45) Delivered @ Amazon AU

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Includes Sodaking carbonating machine in white, one 60L CO2 cylinder and a 1L bottle (free delivery with Prime).

copied from previous deal here
1L bottle is worth about $5, plus $25.90 for the CO2 cylinder and that makes the difference about $15 for the dispenser machine.

Previously paid ~$60 for the same components in a Sodastream kit, so a bit cheaper than that.

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  • Biggest difference between this and Sodastream is you have to screw the bottle in to these. It's annoying but a minor thing.

    • +7

      So does the sodastream.. At least the model I have

      • +9

        The older ones were screw in, the newer ones just push in. I have both (and the sodaking) and find the newer push in sodastream seems to use/waste alot more gas.

        • +3

          that's a common complaint about the push in ones. screw in is better

  • +5

    Someone might be interested.

    For those with screw in units and who go through a lot of CO2, you can get adapters for sodastream style units that connect to larger gas bottles (assuming you can hide it).

    https://www.kegland.com.au/freedomone-sodastream-adapter-hos…
    https://www.kegland.com.au/co2-gas-cylinders-2-6kg-full.html

    or https://www.41pintsofbeer.com.au/product-page/new-co2-gas-cy…

    Initial outlay is around 130-150 for the gear if you search around for a decent priced bottle, but eventually this pays for itself if you go through a lot of sodawater.

    A 2.6kg CO2 bottle is roughly equivalent to 6.5 60L/400g sodastream bottles. A lot of home brewery places do swap and go and only costs around $30-40 for a swap.

    I did this recently, heaps cheaper than paying for $19 sodastream bottle refills.

    • +2

      Is there adapters for Sodaking?

      • +3

        They are the same bottle, so interchangeable.

    • +1

      I have found that the adapter wasn't great, the valve started sticking and would leak a slight amount of CO2 constantly.
      The adapter hose is also VERY stiff as it needs to cope with the pressure of the CO2, makes it annoying to place on the benchtop in the place you want it.
      I have changed to using a refill adapter for the original bottle:
      https://www.kegland.com.au/sodastream-cylinder-filling-adapt…
      OR
      https://www.ibrew.com.au/products/sodastream-cylinder-fillin…

      The only thing you need to remember when doing this is to freeze the sodastream/soda king bottle first and hold the large CO2 bottle upside down. Very slowly open the large tank, the new sodastream (and soda king) bottle have some weird valve (probably to stop refill) where if you open it to fast the valve closes from too much pressure inside or something.

      EDIT: If you are in Adelaide you can swap the tank at Hines Hardware in Magill for $35 OR you can get it refilled at Seaview Aquarium Centre in Plympton (there are probably a few places to refill). Not all will swap with any bottle, Hines will.

      • +1

        I haven't noticed mine leaking yet. But i'll keep an eye out, I have been switching off the bottle after my refills. I did have to do up the fitting quite tight though to stop it leaking initially.

        I must admit I have mine plonked in our laundry at the moment so turning off the valve isn't annoying yet (aiming to get it installed in the kitchen soon).

        • If there's leaking coming out of the straw that goes into the water then no amount of tightening will fix that, there is a valve at the end that get screwed into the sodastream, that is depressed when you press the button on top of the soda stream. If it's leaking then it's that valve that's sticking, maybe it needs to be lubricated?

          • @albot: It needs the o-ring replaced. See my comment below.

      • +1

        "I have found that the adapter wasn't great, the valve started sticking and would leak a slight amount of CO2 constantly."

        I have the adapter and 6kg cylinder set up and found I went through my CO2 much quicker than I would have anticipated. Swapped it out for a full one and a week later heard a hissing sound coming from the laundry where I have everything set up. C02 was rushing out of the Sodastream and the cylinder was almost empty!

        Took it all back to the store that I bought it from and was told it was a common occurrence. Those Kegland adapters have a crappy little o-ring in them that are rather brittle and prone to failure. They swapped my munted ring for a new, better one and gave me a free refill.

        I'd recommend if you pick up one of these adapters, you do this straight away in the store. You just need a hex key to open the valve.

    • +2

      Can also get a refill adapter for the kegland setups: https://www.kegland.com.au/sodastream-cylinder-filling-adapt…

      Bit of a knack to getting the official sodastream bottles to refill, but once you've done it a couple of times, its easy. have had one for 2 years now and even with local swapover being $35, its still miles cheaper than official sodastream refill swapovers.

      • we do this, i have two of the kegland and an old sodastream bottle before they changed the valve.

        The soda stream bottle is 425grams of co2, so theoretically you get 14.12 recharges for $40 (Kegland swap and go price for a 6kg bottle, which is $2.83 per bottle) vs $282 ($14.12 * $20) if you were to swap and go soda stream bottles. If you were to buy a new 6kg cylinder, 2 refillable 450g cylinders, and a valve you pay $184, in other words by the time you finish the first 6kg cylinder you are already ahead.

        Now the bad, yep you need to swing the bottle upside down when decanting from the 6kg to 450g because this keg doesn't have a dipper tube, not to bad but something to consider. Co2 is an odorless gas that can displace oxygen so don't be stupid if you have a leak stop using the equipment, replace what is leaking, and i typically decant in the garage with the doors open. The pressure varies the first few small 450g you fill up the tank is full are full, then the pressure is less so they are less full, we get more than 14 450g refills (probably 20) but really the last 10 don't last long they are not full/450g. We throw the spare 450g in the freezer as well to help fill them up if you tube it they explain why.

        For the record you can also just swap and go the kegland 450g cylinders for $7.5 a pop saving $12.5 if you can't be bothered.

        In our next house we will install sparkling taps and get rid of the soda stream kit. We had the fancy clip in one that used power to actuate the co2 but it died just out of warranty we are back to using our spare plastic screw in unit.

        • Same ….next kitchen Reno will just put in sparkling tap …..can fill bottle and put in fridge or glass and add ice cubes .

    • +2

      I've got the BOC 6kg D plan for $79 a year:

      https://www.boc.com.au/shop/en/au/d-plan-carbon-dioxide-food…

      With this, you don't have the upfront purchase cost of the 6kg bottle.

      However, I've just noticed that a full 6kg bottle is $140 from Brewmart with a refill being $50:

      https://www.boc.com.au/shop/en/au/d-plan-carbon-dioxide-food…

      That's a lot cheaper than it used to be so I'll probably get one of these next.

      6kg lasts me a year and we drink a lot of sparkling water.

      I have mine set up in the laundry as it would be a bit ugly in the kitchen.

  • Is it sodaking good that i should get one?

    • Soda king is cheap to see if you are into making soda water …..works the same as soda stream ……you calln always upgrade to a fancier unit once you have used up the soda cylinder ….

  • Would this be more economical than purchasing supermarket branded sparkling? Woolworths light sparkling "with a hint of lime" is $1.08 per litre.

    • I did the maths before, it's cheaper even using the SodaStream or Soda King swaps, with the 2.6kg you're miles in front.

      • +1

        What's the math on just the regular cylinder. Is it still worth it?

        • To be honest I can't remember exactly, I just counted how many bottles I got out of it once and came out cheaper. This was with a $19 swap, I assume they're still that.

          EDIT: $1.08/l means it should be less than $0.864 per sodastream bottle. At $19 a swap that means you need to get $19/$0.864 = 22 bottles out of a swap, I think that's well under what you would get.

        • +4

          It's pretty simple math. Sodastream refills are $19 RRP, so you just need to get more than 19L out of a refill to be ahead. Sodastream claim 60L from a refill, but I'd say it's around 40 (depending on how fizzy you make it). So you're looking at around 50c/litre. Doesn't take too long to pay off the upfront cost.
          Plus you don't have to have a tonne of soda bottles lying around.

          • +1

            @NigelTufnel: Last time I counted I got about 60 bottles from my SodaKing refill. (Sodastream gas bottle from Sevs) so that aligns with your estimate.

            Definitely cheaper than buying bottled and a lot less plastic.

            • @Thiefsie: This has actually given me an idea to use one of my smart buttons I have lying around to track usage through home assistant for interest.

        • +1

          I get about 55 bottles from my Sodastream refill. Cheaper than shops plus for me big adv was no lugging the Sparkling home.
          Also, bought a $20 secondhand machine from an opshop (even had an empty cylinder in back) because I didn't know how serious I'd end up being with it - the old screw-in type. Works fine.

    • I use a 6kg bottle, which lasts me a year, and I did work it out once to be about 10c a bottle (a Sodastream bottle which is 800ml).

    • +3

      Economies aside, these are better if you don't want to open a 1 litre bottle of sparking for a single drink. Sparkling water goes flat very quickly.

      Also, less plastic bottles.

      • Agree but home-made sparkling water goes flatter, quicker. Also, I find that if I make some sparkling and don't use it within a few days, it starts to go flat even though the bottle hasn't been opened. I used to make loads and store it but now just make a few bottle at a time for this reason.

        • Agree but home-made sparkling water goes flatter, quicker.

          Non issue if you use the 500ml bottles and do it on demand. That's literally the main USP for these over store bought bottles which are generally 1ltr

          • @coffeeinmyveins: 500ml bottles sound like a good idea. I'll look into getting some.

        • Agree but home-made sparkling water goes flatter, quicker. Also, I find that if I make some sparkling and don't use it within a few days, it starts to go flat even though the bottle hasn't been opened. I used to make loads and store it but now just make a few bottle at a time for this reason.

          That's because there is a void/space in between liquid fill level and the cap.

          What you should do is:
          1) Charge 2 x Sodastream/Sodaking bottles at the same time, and combine one (now that they're both fizzy) so that there is almost no void/space between the liquid and the cap.
          2) Drink from the bottle that has less liquid and store the full one.

          It's an equilibrium reaction for carbonated water (which is carbonic acid) and the air that it's in contact with.
          if you eliminate the air that it can reverse the reaction, then no problems.
          H2O (l) + CO2 (g) <- -> H2CO3(l)

          That's why carbonated drinks are filled to the brim in commercial bottles.

          • @cwongtech: You've obviously thought about it!

            I'll try this, so thanks.

            I also reckon that store bought sparkling water is factory sealed and this is to a higher standard than could possibly be achieved with Sodastream filling.

            • @R4: I read it from another sodastream/kegland deal on OzB

              I also reckon that store bought sparkling water is factory sealed and this is to a higher standard than could possibly be achieved with Sodastream filling.

              Factory seal has nothing to do with anything, carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide.

              Chemically the same, though the consistency of the CO2 pressure the liquid will be subjected to will most likely be higher (because the pressure will be regulated.. unlike the Sodaking/Sodastream's "Stop when you hear three fizzes")

    • +1

      Cheaper than supermarket but also convenience of always have soda water, no bottles to lug home and store ….not quite as fizzy as supermarket ones , more like Italian mineral water……

      • also if you don't drink your entire coke in a day, you can regass it and not be drinking flat coke

        • +1

          I carbonated some chardonnay recently. Very nice it was too.

      • +1

        not quite as fizzy as supermarket ones

        You're not using it properly then. You control the level of fizz, I've made it TOO fizzy before.

      • +1

        It depends. I double carbonate the water I make and find it to be very fizzy - which I like.

    • I would rather pay more for making soda at home and drink it right away rather than paying for carbonated water (acidic) thats sitting in Cheapo plastic bottles for so long.

    • Coles 2 litres for $1.45

  • Anyone know where to buy/swap 2.6kg gas bottles in Sydney local?

  • +2

    I wish you could get proper Coke syrup. Pepsi is OK, but just not the same.

  • Thanks OP. Go that and 2 extra bottles for $42 amazon. ( $5 credit)

  • Very cheap way to make appletizer!

    Aldi apple juice works really well

    Just make sure you don't store it in the normal Aldi apple juice bottle though, that one isn't pressure-rated and will swell like a balloon as the carbon dioxide escapes the carbonated apple juice.

    Make sure you wipe your sodaking/sodastream nozzle after use

  • hi, does carbonated water affects bone density? heard it from a friend

      • Conclusions: Intake of cola, but not of other carbonated soft drinks, is associated with low BMD in women. Additional research is needed to confirm these findings.

        In research speak - we need more funding grants

    • hi, does carbonated water affects bone density? heard it from a friend

      Carbonated water and alkaline water needs to go through your body first before it reaches your bones.
      Each sodastream/king cannister is supposed to have 450g of CO2.
      Supposed to make 60L of carbonated water, which implies 7.5g of CO2 used per 1L to push the equilibrium towards the carbonic acid (carbonated water) side
      H2O (l) + CO2 (g) <- -> H2CO3(l)

      Solubility of Carbon Dioxide - CO2 - in Water
      The lower the temperature, the higher the solubility, you can see from the chart the actual solubility CO2 in Water is 3g/1kg at 5 degrees Celsius

      The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day.
      - From NRDC.org)

      2.3 pounds = 1.04326 kg per day

      I'm not a doctor but you can make your own conclusions from the above information.

  • Comes up $55.98 for me - is there a code?

    • Looks like it's ended.

    • +2

      You have to select Amazon AU as the seller.

      • Thanks. Did not know that happened … why would they do that!!

        • +1

          I believe it's on backorder. Amazon automatically switches to an instock store even if it's more expensive.

      • thanks but how do i do that?
        mine says "sold by Kogan" but cant find how to change that

  • -1

    This deal is So-daKing awesome.

  • By Grabthar's hammer…. what a savings. -_-

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