Flatmate/Tenant Starts Smoking inside Apartment. Need Advice

Hi OzBargain friends,

Short version:
What should I do if the flatmate (also tenant) in my apartment starts to smoke indoors but in the agreement I signed with him has no terms on whether “smoking is not allowed inside the property”? Tried to talk with them but it didn’t work well.

Long version:
My friend recently moved to Canberra and rented a 2-bedroom apartment in the city, she has to rent out the other room since the rent is not one-person-friendly. She is new as a landlord and didn’t realise there are people that smoke inside the room, so she used the ACT tenancy template and didn’t say anything about whether smoking is allowed on premises.

A couple moved in 3 month ago, started put strong fragrance in the living room and said it is their tradition/culture where they came from so my friend showed respect. She also noticed the couple smoking and thought she shouldn’t overreact as long as they only smoke on the balcony.

But recently, the couple started smoking in the living room. Due to respect my friend texted them, talked with them face to face that smoking shouldn’t be allowed indoors, but the couple responded that it is cold outside so they have to smoke inside, and they can’t live without cigarettes, also they claimed my friend is a private lessor not an agency so should not ask them doing this and that.

The lease still has 2.5 month left. I know in certain tenancy agreement there’re context such like “quiet enjoyment” that can including second-hand smoking. However, in their agreement there is no terms on smoking, is there anything my friend can do or any help can seek to avoid this situation, instead of suffering for another 2 more month?

It makes me quite uncomfortable when people refuse to talk sense but I have no idea what can be done other than talking this out with the tenant. At the same time, my mind was like, what if someone super loves durian and places it everywhere in the house, or someone likes the smell of boiling vinegar and starts doing so on a daily basis?

Thanks for any advice and regards,

Update 1:
Thanks all for the inputs quite a lot of them are very inspiring, and I have had my friend read them through carefully. We would compose an email and send it to the couple, and see their response. It might include
* smoking inside the apartment is not acceptable
* consequence if they continue smoking inside the apartment (she can force them to move out?)
* options for them (either smoke outside and find a solution themselves or move out in 2 weeks, either way, they have to pay for the cost to remove the odour on the property)
with documents attached:
* strata bylaws
* influence of smoking on other ppl's health
* research of smoke can reach other areas of the apartment ( if I can find, because they claim they are smoking in the living room and my friend won't be able to smell it in the bedroom, even though the property is not big)

Another question is, what if the couple simply ignore the email, like what they did for the text message? I don't think my friend will be able to carry an extinguisher or a hose, etc.

And seems I missed a detail that may be related, before they started smoking inside the apartment they approached my friend and told her they gonna move out and want their bond back immediately since they would need that to pay for the new bond. My friend explained that they can't do that because before they moved in, they have agreed that they would pay the rent till the end of the lease or til the replacement tenant comes if they decide to move out early (whichever happens first), and it is part of the agreement; as for the bond, she can only refund it after they completed the cleaning and there is no damage to the property.

I didn't put it in the story in the first place because I thought those terms are quite reasonable and they seemed to agree with that after my friend's explanation. And what made me annoyed is the smoking thing and I don't know what to say back other than telling them smoking is not allowed in the apartment when they simply ignored it.

Lesson learnt so far for the new landlord:
1. Attach a sheet of extra terms of what you don't want your tenant to do, to the official template and make it as detailed as possible
2. Better screen your tenant

Update 2:
Again thanks everyone for the input. The tenants stoped paying the rent yesterday and emailed my friend that they will move out in 2 weeks. They wants the 2 weeks rent to be deducted from the deposit, and another 2 weeks’ deposit as cleaning fees when they leave.

When my friend arrived home at night, they already moved out. End of story.

Comments

  • +1

    Get a copy of the building's bylaws if it's a strata unit and check whether the bylaws already prohibit smoking indoors (though many also prohibit smoking on common property ie. including the balcony). If there's no mention of it then you'll just have to kick them out with the required notice period etc.

  • +2

    When i sublet, I always put a clause in the agreement stating respecting other tenants, no smoking inside, damaging the property, no pets and occupany limit to 1 or 2 and to landlord/headtenant's descretion. as well as a verbal agreement when they first come inspect.

    and when someone is desperate to leave, just let them leave, you'll fill the room, esepecially in canberra, within a week. shits people pull when they're piss is not pleasant to deal with for a self manage or live in landlord. The time or effort to go tribunal is too much.

    I suggest pulling out your original agreement from Real estate (if it has a smoking clause which it usually has) if you're subletting or just let them go if self managing,

    Finally, for your friend's profile (female, prob young), look for similar tenants, avoid couples cause they'll overpower you any day

    • lesson learnt, especially for a single female landlord…

  • -1

    join in

  • Suggest taking a shit in his room to assert dominance

  • -1

    Take up smoking yourself and enjoy the sweet sweet taste of nicotine

  • +1

    I usually have less trouble with bullies when I make it clear I am willing to take things into an extreme and unreasonable tit for tat scenario, I have been specific with people about my willingness to escalate, tell them it will be fun, bullies usually back down. There are so many things you can do to make a flatmate miserable. Call them out on their behavior, tell them you believe it is deliberate bullying, explain it is going to trigger your personality disorder where you scream and yell at lot at unfortunate times and become irrational. Tell them if they smoke, you will leave their food out of your fridge, no use of microwave, washing machine etc. Fun things to do turn the power off, return their mail, turn the tap on every time they shower, there are so many ways to make them understand they are making a poor decision. Every time they smoke inside just extinguish it. Put a wi-fi camera in, sounds like they can't touch you without being deported, I would mention that so they know you are serious and are irrational. If polite isn't working don't bother with polite.

    • Yup and when the place gets trashed we know who will be held responsible…

      • They will back straight off if passive smoking is their big play. If they had game they would have justed stopped paying rent and moved out when they wanted to.

  • +1

    Not getting bond back as the entire apartment plus furnishings need a steam clean and all walls need cleaning.

    And certainly not getting a good reference!

    What selfish pigs…they have an obligation to coexist with other occupants…regardless of what is not included in the lease.

  • Ask the owner if the rule on smoking has changed. Then drop your roommate in it.

  • Reason # 23948230948023489320489023489 not to have a rental..

  • Break the lease and move on.

    Smoking with a Hookah or other cultural device may be protected under tenancy provisions and the landlord will not want to be embroiled in some xCAT proceeding or litigation. The use of cultural incense is also permissible.

    Remember that you live in a sharehouse, and you must respect the decisions of those around you. I provide a further example. Some tenants may also only wash themselves once a week, some may only wash themselves in the morning meaning they might emit odors throughout the afternoon and into the night. Some people do not wash their hair everyday. Ultimately, this comes down to cultural factors. You need to be more culturally sensitive.

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