EV Car Tyre on Non EV Car?

coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 16:44

Ok, so I have a 2020 Audi RS Q3 which is in desperate need of new tyres, money isn't a factor I just want to get the best performance / quality. While shopping and ringing around I get a lot of 'interesting' feedback, mostly though it seems to be tilted to what people have in stock, which is quite frustrating.

Pirelli is pretty much out of the question, just seems to be no stock anywhere.

I have Continental SportContact 6 currently, but one place in particular was raving on about the Michelin Pilot Sport EV, saying it out performs the other brands by huge amounts.

Reading up on it, the results look good overall and to myself it kind of makes sense, EV's are heavy and have a large amount of torque, additionally they are quieter, have really good poor weather performance etc, sounds perfect. But this is the thing - I cannot find one single article or anything about these on a non-EV car?

Is this for a reason? Would I be a muppet to actually have these on this car? Should I just stick with the SportContact 6? Price wise the Michelin is a tiny bit more expensive, like maybe $5 a tyre, no big deal.

What's your thoughts?

Michelin Pilot Sport EV 255/35R21 98W

or

Continental SportContact 6 (A01) 255/35R21 98Y

ps, yeah I get that I'd probably be the only person that'll notice the tyre will say EV on it, again, it's more about the performance / 'bang' for your buck (pun intended). Cheers.

Poll Options expired

  • 3
    EV tyre is clearly better
  • 1
    Stick with a non EV tyre, you'll look like a goose
  • 21
    No difference
  • 6
    Non EV tyre is better for a non EV car
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Comments

  • Hybroid on 21/08/2022 - 16:48

    The 98W and 98Y are speed ratings of 270 and 300 km/h respectively which gives you an indication.

    Not sure what more "performance" you want to eek out if you've managed to chew through a pair of tyres within 2 years. Are you actually taking it onto track days or just hooning around from traffic light to the next?

    • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 16:58
      -1

      W and Y are speed ratings of 270 and 300 km/h respectively

      FTFY

      98 is the load rating.

      I think op would be lucky to get 20-30k kms out of the contactsport6. They are quite soft and grippy and that RSQ3 has a load of torque.

    • pegaxs on 21/08/2022 - 17:01

      98 is the load index. W and Y are the speed ratings.

      98 is a load rating of 750kg for that tyre.

      EV tyres are typically lower rolling resistance than regular tyres. It's not a load rating or speed thing, but a fuel economy thing.

      • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:37

        Lower rolling resistance was something that they really mention, compared to traditional tyres something like 60km per charge, so the same should be for fuel consumption I assume. That and noise + wet weather braking.

    • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:06

      Yeah not for the track or anything, it's done about 55,000 km's overall, maybe they are the original I'm not sure. I certainly won't be doing those speeds. Previous owner was a mate that drove it harder, I'm more chilled out, but still, I won't put budget tyres on a 100k car.

      • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 17:11

        55k is awesome if they are the original. Just stick with the same then.

        What is the manufacturing date on the tyre?

        • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:20

          47th week, 2019. I've got receipts for everything, but nothing for new tyres, so I'm assuming they are original.

          • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 17:22
            +1

            @coffeerequired: Very good chance they are original. If you like they way they perform then I would stick with them. If it ain't broke mentality and save yourself $200 in the process.

            • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:38

              @MS Paint: That's true, although the lower rolling resistance may make up the difference in fuel cost (maybe). But your right, I can't really complain about the current ones.

              • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 17:45
                +1

                @coffeerequired: You don't drive an RSQ3 and worry about fuel costs. If that's the case sell for an EV with EV tyres.

                • pegaxs on 21/08/2022 - 18:07
                  +1

                  @MS Paint: Or tyre costs for that matter…

                  • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 18:40

                    @pegaxs: ok… then the best for performance?

                    • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 18:44
                      +1

                      @coffeerequired: P Zero (which you say you probably can't get) or PS 4/4S.

                      • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 19:44

                        @MS Paint: Pirelli was at the top of the list for something different, over 6 weeks wait though unfortunately. One of the tyre places said the pilot sport 4s (I'm assuming that's what you mean by PS) are just a base model bleh blah 'don't waste your money' kind of thing, so I didn't even consider them.

    • Ocker on 21/08/2022 - 18:39

      Tyres of a MB E63 will last for only 15,000 - 20,000

    • Ramrunner on 22/08/2022 - 18:57

      That's actually pretty good wear. It's what I'm currently getting on my Giulietta QV, but the original tyres only lasted like 35K or something.

      But the tyres I have on it are quite soft performance tyres.

      I had a Nissan XTrail before and tyres lasted forever. But didn't have a lot of grip. :(

      Performance cars go through consumables quicker. Had disk and pads replaced after 4 years. It is what it is.

  • SF3 on 21/08/2022 - 17:07
    +1

    I have a 2020 Audi RS Q3
    money isn't a factor

    You have the money 💰 to 💪, try them and post back.

    • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:10

      I think I'd rather not waste $ tbh, but if they are a clear winner then I'd pay for them. Just looked it up again Continental SportContact 6 are $739 and Michelin Pilot Sport EV are $789 - still, not a budget breaker.

      • AustriaBargain on 21/08/2022 - 17:29

        Just buying a new car would be an even bigger flex.

        • coffeerequired on 21/08/2022 - 17:30

          Haha, I don't think I'm here to flex, just advice ;)

  • GordonD on 21/08/2022 - 18:01

    One of the rental car companies said that their EVs have substantially lower maintenance costs. Except in one area. Tyres. It cost more to keep their EVs in tyres than it does their ICE cars.

    • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 18:11
      +1

      Because EV specific tyres are more expensive and most renters will drive them like they are stolen. That extra torque has to go somewhere between the tyre and the road surface.

      • GordonD on 21/08/2022 - 18:26

        An unrelated question that I haven't managed to get an answer to. The torque and horsepower figures for an ICE car are measured at the flywheel. And torque is multiplied by different amount in each gear, and again in the diff. So the torque at the drive axle is way bigger than that quoted engine output number, and progressively bigger in each lower gear. We hear huge torque figures for EVs. But where is it measured? At the output shaft of the electric motor? After the reduction gear? After the diff, if its got one? Is the torque number for an EV in any way comparable to an ICE car's torque figure, or even to any other EV? They are big numbers that sound good, but do they mean anything useful?

        EVs seem "torquey", but that's because they develop pretty much the same torque right through the engine speed range, rather than very little at low speeds like an ICE. If they really output more maximum torque at the drive wheels they'd just spin the tyres.

  • Nugs on 21/08/2022 - 18:02
    +2

    If you buy them, white paint just the EV lettering
    .

    • MS Paint on 21/08/2022 - 18:28
      +1

      Even better…

      E
      V
      .

  • apple2016 on 21/08/2022 - 21:53
    +1

    Personally i would go for michelin pilot sport 4s. Pilot sport cup does not seem to come in 255/35.

    • MS Paint on 22/08/2022 - 00:15

      I suggested them also but op was advised they are junk. Strangely they are good enough factory issue for Gemera and T50 but whatever.

  • Jalif on 22/08/2022 - 10:54

    EV tyres are usually just low rolling resistance tyres, so it should be fine.

  • Drumadd on 22/08/2022 - 11:07
    +2

    EVs are iro 20% heavier than ICE is another factor to consider. I took Pirelli’s (P Zero) off my Porsche (too soft) and Michelins (Pilot Sport) on for better performance and grip as well as tyre life - a significant difference. Continentals are recognised as being ‘soft’ also higher wear in comparison. However, Michelin suggest the MPSS are not suitable for 2015+ RS3.

  • md333 on 22/08/2022 - 12:49
    +1

    Quite a few EV drivers switching to non EV tyres because they are happy to give up a bit of range for the better grip. Notably Kona EV. Probably not the specific tyre you are looking at, but there is always a compromise, I think you'd probably best off with the EV tyres only if small improvements in fuel economy are your biggest priority.

  • 2esc on 22/08/2022 - 13:12
    +1

    High speed rating is irrelevant for me personally.

    Personally in order of importance for me is all round grip for braking, confort, longevity then noise and price.

    Most people don't stand round at socials and have big discussions about tyres so if you get ev tyres 99% of people don't care and won't ask you what tyres you have.

    So no you won't look like a Muppet.

    Unless of course you go round telling every one about your ev tyres

  • ssmith3104 on 22/08/2022 - 22:36
    +1

    Those "EV" tyres are a very good tyre however my Michelin dealer says that the sidewalls are single ply whereas the "ST" version of the same tyre are 2 ply and therefore more likely to survive striking at speed, a pothole in the road.

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