Seems to be the lowest price ever for this Gen4 SSD. Will need an additional heatsink if used on PS5.
Speed: up to 6600MB/s sequential reads, random read/write 720K/700K IOPS;
Warranty: 5-year limited or up to the max endurance rating of 1200 TBW.
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This might help, there's a few other sites for it as well. https://versus.com/en/crucial-p5-plus-1tb-vs-western-digital…
If you ever want to compare tech directly, just type in: [name of 1st product] vs [name of 2nd product]
Works for phones, PC parts, monitors, and dog beds.
Cheers, by the looks of it any if them are super fast
Crucial P5 Plus 1TB vs Harmony Cosy Cottage Rectangular Dog Basket Grey Large
Wow, amazing!
Check https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-p5-plus-m2-nvme…, just that page. Don't look at 1TB comparison in page 3.
For P5 Plus, the 2TB model is more competitive than the 1TB model. Majority of PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSDs are not efficient (compared to gen 3) as they tend to use more power.
Is this ok to use in a laptop without heatsink?
Yes.
If it doesn't come with a heatsink, it is the very definition of the nvme being able to work without a heatsink or it would be mandatory to sell it with a heatsink.
Then why does it need one in the PS5?
It's mostly for a peace of mind. The place where you put the NVMe SSD in PS5 doesn't have the best airflow. However, gen4 NVMe SSDs generate most heat during heavy writes. Problem is, you won't run into that situation much because the internal SSD is only 667GB and it is very unlikely you will be writing all games to and from that SSD to the other SSD you put into PS5 in a constant loop.
No one has the guts to tell you outright it is not needed (despite no one is able to show without a heatsink, the SSD performance suffered greatly in PS5). All the tests done to show a need for a heatsink used a PC and ran an extreme test case (pretty much close to non stop writing to the SSD).
For $10-$20, most of us will put one in, so at least Sony cannot come with dodgy excuse not to do the warranty for PS5. Yes, it is not needed, but I would still recommend you to get one (yeah, I know, doesn't make sense).
@netsurfer: I would think that excessive heat will damage anything over time. The expansion and contraction of heat and cool cycles, but over a long period. I'm sure there are other heat factors as well, like changes in conductivity/capacitance and more. Some things like batteries get damaged much more quickly by heat.
@rygle: It is the controller that needs to be kept cool. The actual NAND flash chips work better when warm. Problem is, DIY heatsink, we will just do a basic heat spreader(or 2 heat spreaders for a double sided NVMe SSD), rather than targeting the controller.
Bear in mind that (1) SSD makers would ensure the controller thermal throttle rather than fry the SSD and (2) Usage on PS5 is unable to really cause thermal throttle (unless that SSD is junk class).
I found keeping SSDs unused in cold storage like condition has a much higher chance to fail than regularly using the SSDs. All my dead SSDs died when booted up, not after hours of usage. In fact, 90% of them died due to lack of use.
SSDs are not batteries. With lithium batteries, if possible, only charge up to 80% (and avoid letting it drops below 50% too often). However, that's not very realistic for mobile phones.
@netsurfer: I purposefully separated my comment on batteries because there is clear evidence that heat is a major contributor to degradation and failure, different to chips.
@netsurfer: They will thermally throttle without a heatsink. Saying it's "only needed on the controller" is useless, you're admitting one is needed, period. This is why PS5 needs one, and so does anyone else that wants to use one as a system drive.
The fact there are models that come without one is absolutely not a tacit confirmation that one isn't needed. They'll work. They will throttle on larger / sustained activity. It's why almost every quality MB is coming with integrated heatsinks for them.
@[Deactivated]: You'd better show it to us on PS5. PS5's internal SSD is slow at writes. It is essentially uses SN530 or SN550 class flash chips (to save cost) and it is optimised for reads with a custom controller. That kind of speed is not going to throttle the SSD. Copying data back and forth won't work on PS5 to throttle the SSDs. Reviewers tried.
The throttling is due to the controller temperature getting too high. The fundamental issue is PCIe gen 4 is an overkill for most people. Also, before the SSD enters the throttled state, the SSD would already be in degraded performance state (i.e. SLC cache long exhausted).
Phison E19 based SSDs with performance actually at PCIe gen 3 level (but technically PCIe gen 4) work on PS5. The current issue is game developers cannot push that SSD to the max for multiple reasons.
The throttling is due to the controller temperature getting too high.
What get's too hot is irrelevant. The point is, something gets too hot, it throttles. Heatsink helps. End of dicsussion.
@[Deactivated]: Reviewers indicated they simply cannot produce the type of workload needed for the SSD to throttle on a PS5. They indicated there is just a lot of margin available even without a heatsink.
The setup with the lowest temperature is heatsink on and PS5 cover off. However, that combo has the SLOWEST write transfer speed (~200MB/s less). The fastest write comes from the same SSD without heatsink and cover off (second hottest).
So, if you want the best performance on a PS5, don't put a heatsink on SN850 and leave the cover off (not quite what you expected right?). Lowest temperature isn't better. However, if you insist on thermal throttling that SSD on a PS5, I guess you can get a hair dryer or a heat gun and blow into that SSD.
The SSD heatsink impact was already tested years ago. SSD heatsink isn't perfect because while it kept the controller cool, it generally also lowers the temperature of the flash chips. So you gain some and lose some. Overall, generally, it evens out making the heatsink mostly cosmetic.
Will this drive actually last for twice as many writes compared with the regular 2tb P2 or is it just marketing changes? It is rated at 1200TB vs 600TB.
They'll most likely use it to calculate the SMART attribute #202, "Percentage Lifetime Used", at which point they claim that data retention will start to suffer.
https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-ssd/ssds-and-sm…
I'm assuming that his has warranty ramifications too. There's probably a phrase in the limited warranty talking about them being able to reject people who've exceeded it before the 5 years…
depending on applicable warranty period for the SSD product purchased, from the original date of purchase or before writing the maximum total bytes written (TBW) as published in the product datasheet and as measured in the product’s SMART data, whichever comes first.
There it is.
Many other reasons to get this one over p2, mostly that this one dosent become unusably slow (5-6x slower than HDD) after slc cache exausts.
The price dropped down to $299.84 now
Thanks, title updated.
Does everyone's tracking look like this?
Delivery By Australia Post Global
Tracking ID: AP152XXXX
Sunday, 14 August
Package arrived at an Amazon facility
CASTEL SAN GIOVANNI (PC), Piacenza IT
Carrier picked up the package.
Just asking because I have had troubles with amazon UK before (they randomly cancel the item and say the item has been refunded, days after they say it has been posted).
I tried to track the item on https://apgecommerce.com/ but it says "Sorry, order not found".
I bought mine on the 14th. Still just on the ordered status, hasn't changed to shipped yet
How does this compare to the WD850 pro? sorry been out if the PC hardware for sometime