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Photon Mono 2K
$134.10/131.12 including delivery (was $255)
Print volume: 165 x 130 x 80 mm (HxWxD)
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AnyCubic Resin 3D Printer: Mono 2K $134.10 ($131.12 with eBay Plus) Delivered @ AnyCubic eBay
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Quick Question, is resin or PLA better for repair parts that get jiggled, ie not static model, but perhaps a part of a remote control etc?
PLA for things that get used is generally better. If you wanted to do it in resin you'd want something like Siraya Tech Blu (high strength, plus just got certified for biocompatibility if you cure it a certain way).
PLA / PETG
ABS or ASA if it will be exposed to UV/sunlight.
I'd stick to PLA if you plan on printing functional parts for repairs, battery covers etc. Resin is more brittle when it comes to small snappy bits that need to "click" but better for finer detail if making models, figures and art etc
Resin is more brittle
Aren't flexible resins now available, like this one: https://monocure3d.com.au/product-category/resins/flex-resin…
Or do they have shortcomings?
I don't have a 3D printer, but I'd like to try out the flexible resin, perhaps to make a mobile phone wallet.
The above usecase is typically for FDM printers.
You could get away with a resin printer for small fiddly bits but it's a material that's used mostly for attention to detail. It also costs about 2-4x as much for materials and needs a curing station. The upside is the machines are generally easier to maintain outside of the resin toxicity and curing.
Typical FDM materials:
PLA is fine for parts not left out in the elements or put under strain.
PETG is the slightly tricky stuff that works in the scenarios the above doesn't.
ABS is for things you're likely to break but needs an enclosed printer + ventilated room.You'll need about 50 hours in fiddling and scratchpad to understand how to work and service your FDM.
Cheap to buy, time expensive to hobby.
Unless they go prusa, then not cheap, but also not fiddly.
@Castcore: This is true, alas we're on Ozb so I'll be expecting a series of questions on how to fix their newly purchased elegoo/anycubic/ender any moment now.
needs a curing station.
I've heard people say "you don't need a curing station, just put it in sunlight for a while", but I don't know if they're talking bull####.
Is a curing station really needed?
@Russ: You get slightly better results from a curing station.
The sun method can give brown voliuring to some grey reins.
You can DIY a curing box with UV LEDs and aluminium foil though…
I tried the whike DIY washing and curing when I got into resin, and then I went and bought an elegoo wash and cure bundle. It's a major quality of life improvement to the whole process.
@Russ: Not a need, especially given we are in Australia. But honestly, a wash & cure machine is just much, much more convenient.
There's a little bit more effort involved than just sticking it in sunlight, you want it on a rotating pedastal so it cures all over (like the littles ones you see at jewelry stores). Then that needs to be away from any pets and kids, and ideally not where it's going to get any dust sticking to the resin before it cures. Oh and sheltered from the wind because small resin models will easily be blown off (and again-dust). Plus you need to monitor it, too much UV exposure can also be a problem so you'll need to check the UV rating for the day.
Ditto when it comes to cleaning before curing, you can get all sorts of containers (make sure they have waterproof snap-on lids), some people use hot water, there's people using isopropl alcohol directly in sonic cleaners (pretty sketchy if you ask me), there's toothbrushes involved etc.
It's all doable, it's all possible. I tried most of the above when I first started resin printing but after getting something dedicated I wish I'd done so months earlier.
@macfudd: Thanks for the heads-up. I've read that curing while immersed in water gives a slightly better result, so if I buy a resin printer, I'll drop the printed items into a plastic jar 3/4 filled with water, put the lid on, and put the jar upside-down onto a turntable, in the sunlight.
A nearby library (State Library of QLD) has FDM printers available for public use though, so I'll hold off for another year, and see if they get a resin printer as well. With the FDM printers, they do all the set-up and printing, and hand you the finished item. Hopefully they'll do the same with a resin printer.
@Russ: Definitely do that to start with. I still really like FDM printing. There's something particularly satisfying about it and so many free useful objects on thingiverse and prusa to print.
Even if the library never get a resin printer in, they are getting cheaper and with better feaures all the time.
@macfudd: I agree that FDM is good, but the prints are porous, so can't be given to little kids who may chew on them. Not healthy because the porosity means they can't be cleaned properly.
That's why I'd like to try resin printing. And the speed compared to FDM printers.
ABS can be used without an enclosure for smaller parts provided the design is not too warp prone. It's also possible to print massive ABS parts with a little extra filament investment.
"It depends" this is a materials question imo. The basic/standard "abs like" resins tend to be a bit brittle once cured. But tough and bio resins (like the anycubic one made from soya) have some flexibility to them and are much much hardier. There are also speciality industrical/mechanical resins specifically for making gears or high temps or hostile environments.
I'd typically say resin printer for higher resolution, higher detail, smaller sized things.
FDM for bigger, stronger things (once dialed in to give then high strength and better adhesion).
How good is this printer for small robotic/mechanic details printing? thanks
It's fine
are you able to share a site/community where I can research about 3d printing, with this machine particularly if posssible? Thanks
You can also use flexible filament, which may be suitable depending on your application.
FYI there are heaps of listings for this printer on eBay for this same price. So if you want the deal just look for similar listings.
Reminder for those who are resin printing for the first time, please ensure it is in a well ventilated location. If you live in an apartment do it on the balcony (do it when no direct sunlight), fumes are toxic and irritating. Try not to get the resin on your skin - don't skimp out of disposable gloves.
https://ppesupplier.com.au/products/black-nitrile-nitro-powd…
These are good.
You'll also want a boatload of ipa, although for cheaper but less safer (in terms of fumes) alternative metho works fine.
are gloves needed when handling water washable and plant based resins as well?
I still wear my usual PPE with both but see the advantage as being somewhat less bad if some gets on your skin compared to standard resins.
Water washable resin still leaves you with leftover water that has to be treated as toxic and not go down the plughole so it's probably not great to be dunking your hands in there either.
Plant based might be fine and usually smells better but it's still going into 99% Isopropyl alcohol or Meths for cleaning so you want to have gloves, eye protection and a mask on for that process anyway.With many chemicals your body may show no reaction despite multiple exposures but the sensitivity builds up over time until only trace amounts can make your skin bright red.
I personally use some good quality chemical resistant reusable long gloves with nitrile gloves as a backup for particularly small and fiddly prints.
thanks macfudd, that makes sense.
its almost as though there's very little benefit in actually using plant based or w/w over the usual resin yeah?@fuzzyslk: I haven't had much luck with the water washable resin I've tried - the supports needed to be a lot thicker or I got more failed prints. From what I've read, prints with water washable resins can crack over the years (like 3+ years on) but the ones I did were only 12 months ago and I haven't seen that personally.
Plus the water washable resin is more expensive. Bulk isopropyl alcohol is cheap from sydney solvents and meths is cheap even at bunnings.For plant based, the best feature really is the reduced smell. To me it is less, but bothersome enough that I still wear a respirator. Reading online, other people say they can't smell some plant based resins at all so it does vary person to person. If I was printing inside a house (I print in a detached garage) I'd probably stick with plant based just to get less complaints from family members.
I've placed an order for some of the anycubic translucent green & clear plant based resins using the current promo. Non-opaque resins should cure faster so I want to give them a try. edit: clear resins can be tough to print, I wouldn't recommend them for someone new to the hobby.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234282634095?hash=item368c554b6f… - this seems to be one of the best prices I could find on ebay at the moment per L for plant based resin.
yes to water washable, not sure about plant based - thats a bit of a gimmick imo.
Its a brilliant price if you are after a cheap resin. I would buy one but I cant work anywhere near the fumes (though anyone using these should make sure in a well ventilated area with appropriate gloves/mask)
The fumes?
That varies on the resin being used. There are a very large selection of extremely low odour resins. I don't smell mine when it's working, not until you take the hood off it.Big +1 on the gloves and mask though
I am one of those who are sensitive. Acetone gives me an asthma attack, for example as well as numerous fragrances.
Ie my lungs are (profanity) as it is, not going near a resin, even with precautions. (I have a place out of house I can print, but I cant do the post-processing anyway).
What are people making with these things?
Think of it like any other tool - the application and uses are endless…
Yes, but what are people making with this?
Would be interesting to see some examples of how the community is putting them to use.
@morestuff: Some interesting things. I was more interested in some examples of actual projects people here, on OzBargain, have done with this resin printer.
Got mine from a recent OzB link, loving it. Metho and two old containers for a wash system; cheap UV light, solar turntable and the printer cover itself for a cure system. Smashing out minis.
What do your minis look like? Can we see?
Wow. What a price. I love this printer!
I highly recommend the wash and cure set also. I couldn’t use this printer without it.