From EB Twitter. Available from 11am AEST, for click & collect, stock expect mid August.
$829 without trade, $599 if you trade PS4 Slim, $549 if you trade PS4 Pro. $19 cheaper than the Big W deal for this bundle.
One per customer.
Edit: Up now. $200 Deposit Required.
FOMO got me too.
I got one, played the PS4 version of elden ring on it, and now it just sits there.
Hindsight probably should've waited longer for better bundle deals but oh well.
Now that’s a good little consumer.
I didn't buy it
Good man. RBA is happy.
Good deal if you haven’t managed to secure a PS5 other than buying from scalpers
Atm, you can get a GT7 for $69 at JB, which is $11 higher if buying as a bundle from EB Games ($749 for PS5 + $69 for GT7 = $818)
that is why bundles are not good deal
GT7 could even cheaper on second market
or wait for it drop to like $20 eventually.
BTW is GT7 a physical disk or code in this bundle?
Physical, otherwise they’d show the box with Horizon picture on it
is horizon bundle a code?
surprising that they are doing it as a physical disk
since most bundle games nowadays are just redeemable codes to prevent resales and cheaper from them to bundle (instead of physical disk)
and causing the the price of the game to drop quickly (from second hand market)
Bundles used to be a good deal back in the day when it was a free game which didn’t add much to the console RRP… but then in my mind consoles like the N64 and PS1 were $199.
On topic though, this is cheaper than the Gamesmen GT7 bundle although admittedly it’s probably more because GT7 isn’t $110 anymore.
Hello there old friend. Yes, we are old. No, I haven’t captured the joy that golden eye gave me.
Isn't GT7 shit because micro transactions?
I wouldn’t say it’s shit but it does cheapen the experience knowing the concerns around the in game economy/pricing and loot boxes.
If you are so desperate to overpay for something sold by scalpers, you probably deserve to get rip off imo. ymmv
Up now
Got it kent
Trying to clear games nobody wants to buy before they put it in the bargain bin for 19 bucks.
Thanks ordered mine.
Cheers. Got one for my brother finally.
Thats a ok trade in deal but tbh the game is $69..
You guys think it'll be better to sell ps4 pro fb market place?
Look at how much they sell for on Market Place in your area.
why don't you check how much they are selling it for?
$280 is how much you get from EB.
Lots selling for 350/300 but.. none of are really selling..I'm not sure.. there definitely is a lot of them.
I have sold mine for $400 (it was with no scratches and was looking like new)
@pinkybrain: Sold 2 weeks ago. But listing was there from few months. Listed for $450 and person came and verified everything and paid $400. it was with one controller.
@MrBeast: Basically if you have friend with higher level of EB world you can trade it in $360 (only for console) - not sure if deal is still there but earlier it was
That depends. $280 for the PS4Pro is reasonable if you have don't too many accessories/games you want to part with & you don't have to deal with FB/GT filth, offering you $200 less than advertised or trying to trade for some rubbish they have in the closet.
I traded mine in the last deal, got $360 trade credit for my PS4 Pro 1TB (your EB World level increases it). Seemed like a much easier way to get rid of it, rather than deal with FB/Gumtree.
Agreed. Was happy to give it to EB and miss out on a few dollars, in order to save the headache of dealing with (profanity) on classifieds.
I don’t know if it’s still going but EB was doing a special trade deal a few weeks back. Level 4 meant a PS4 Pro trade in was like $350.
Pre ordered one. Will bring overseas, hope to claim TRS
how much can you get back?
The GST, so the cost of the item divided by 11 (about $75)
can you explain the maths
why you divide by 11 to get GST amount?
isn't GST 10%?
@pinkybrain: The GST is 10% on top of the item, correct. But if you try to take 10% off the total cost, then you'll also be taking 10% of the GST into your calculation. So you divide by 11 to get the amount of GST charged.
You can test it by trying to work out the GST on an item that costs $100. So a store would charge the customer $100 + 10%, so a total of $110 ($100 for the item and $10 for tax). If you were charged $110, and you tried to minus 10% off that to work out base cost, then you'd actually get $99 because you're taking 10% off the GST too. But if you divide the $110 by 11, then you get the amount of GST incurred, which is $10.
Hopefully I haven't confused your more haha, but in short, if you're trying to work out how much GST to charge, then it is 10% of the sale price. But if you are going the other way to work out how much GST was charged, then you divide the total cost by 11
@nicholasv: yeah I can see dividing the price (including GST) by 11 gets the GST amount, so not confused about that.
I just don't understand how they got the number 11 as the way to get that amount.
It would to good to get a math's proof/solutions as to how they got that number 11.
e.g. math to
Calculating price without GST
price including GST = $110
Y = price without GST
Y*1.1 = $110
Y = 110/1.1
Y = $100
@pinkybrain: The pre GST price of a product can be thought of as 100%, then when you add 10% GST it becomes 110%. That means the final price including GST should be 11 times the GST amount. So dividing by 11 will give you just the amount of GST
@nicholasv: thanks for trying to help
hopefully some maths nerd can give a working maths solutions of how to get number 11.
still interested to see how to get that calculation
@pinkybrain: You don't need a "math nerd" to give you a "working maths solution", it's already been explained, and it's really not a difficult concept. No offence mate, but if you still don't get it, you're probably not going to.
@Gurbachen: if you are so smart then show a maths proofs of how to get the number 11
else you are just talking out of your ass.. and just trying to sound like you are smart or just being a smartass.
since are so smart it would be a waste of your time to continue talking here on something that has nothing to do with you.
better that you spend your brain power on something more mentally challenging.
@pinkybrain: Can't tell if you're trolling or just……. but what the others have posted are reasonable explanations.
Maybe a more simpler explanation might help you understand better.
This would be primary school level maths: Imagine you have a block of cheese, if you cut it up into 10 even pieces then each piece would be 10% of the original whole block. now if you add in another piece of the same size as the others, for the tax, you now have 11 pieces of 10% of the original whole block. That where the 11 comes from.
So in order to calculate the 10% GST on the IncGST price, you just divide by 11.
If you still can't comprehend the simple explanations and need the calculation(which when simplified will end up with the same basic calculation)
GST/IncGST = 10/110
@pinkybrain: Can't tell if you are trolling but here's some primary school math:
let X = price excl. GST
let Y = price incl. GST
let Z = GST
We know:
(1) X + Z = Y
(2) X+0.1X = Y
=> Z = 0.1X
=> X = Y/1.1
starting with (2)
X + 0.1X = Y
Y/1.1 + 0.1X = Y
Y/1.1 + Z = Y
Z = Y-Y/1.1
Z = Y(1-1/1.1)
Z = Y(1/11)
Z = Y/11
We know:
(1) X + Z = Y
(2) X+0.1X = Y
=> Z = 0.1X
=> X = Y/1.1
Yeap already know this,
I also mention some of it in my own example equation above.
starting with (2)
even though the calculation has no logical flow to it here.
all this just shows is how to get Y in different ways.. rather than having logical flow to it..
e.g.
X + 0.1X = Y
Y/1.1 + 0.1X = Y
Y/1.1 + Z = Y
Anyway this part of your math doesn't make sense to me
Z = Y(1-1/1.1)
Z = Y(1/11)
Z = Y/11
How did you go from (1 - 1/1.1) ===> becomes (1/11)?
then how did you get from Y(1/11) becomes (Y/11)
can you show me your working solution how to get those results
@pinkybrain: Not sure if this helps: The original price (price excl gst) is ten tenths of the original price. Add one tenth to it, it's now eleven tenths (price inc gst). So if you want to know how much one tenth of the original amount is (the gst), you need to divide the price including gst by eleven.
@Miss B: thanks for contributing to this discussion..
yeah it is another way to look at it..
the problem is,
right now it is easy because GST rate is a neat 10%.
what happens if the GST rate was change to 12.47% or any other number that is not a neat 10%.
Can you get number to divide by now if the GST rate was change to 12.47%?
Much more harder to get the number to divide by now without the maths formula.
@pinkybrain: Just work it out with $100. Original price is $100. Gst is $12.47. Price including gst is $112.47, so divide by the gst amount and it gives you the amount to divide by for that gst percentage.
$112.47 ÷ 12.47 = 9.0192461909, so if gst is 12.47%, divide by 9.0192461909 to get the gst amount, or 9 if you just want an estimate.
You could make up a formula if it pleases you/ you want a more precise amount, like…
Y/((100+G)/G)
Y = price including gst
G = gst %
112.47/((100+12.47)/12.47) = 12.47
110/((100+10)/10) = 10
But you can use it with any amount.
@pinkybrain: Hi pinkybrain, I'll try to answer your questions on Kks post, feel free to ask more questions if you'd like further clarification.
Kks first steps in (2) aren't just showing different ways to get y, though I can see why you might draw that conclusion. What they were doing was substituting parts of the equation for others that they had established earlier. This sets up the equation to be able to be solved.
Regarding the steps that you've asked about:
(1-1/1.1) can also be expressed as (11/11-10/11) if both the numerator and denominator are multiplied by 11
Then it's as simple as subtracting 10/11 from 11/11 leaving 1/11
Y(1/11) is another way of expressing Y*1/11 and y multiplied by 1 equals y so y times 1/11 equals y/11
Hope that helps
@kbzj: thanks for clarifying it further and offering more clarification if needed.. and not being harsh
there are many GST calculator sites that just say divide by 11 to get GST etc.
but I was just curious how they actually get that number..
been a long time since I last did fractions, so it is very rusty…
been looking on google to remember all the fraction rules etc..
(1-1/1.1) can also be expressed as (11/11-10/11) if both the numerator and denominator are multiplied by 11
11/11 = 1 (didn't see that way of doing it until now you show it here)
but this part you said multiply by 11…
1/1.1
don't you mean multiply by 10?
i.e. 1/1.1 => 10/11
if it is by 11 then it becomes
1x11 / 1.1x11 = 11/12.1
Yeah was also doing that multiply by 10 (to simplify the decimal in that fraction) to try to workout how that it was derived
but my mistake was thinking like this, ie you need to multiply it to entire equation instead that you can just do it for the fractions part only
ie.
10 (1 - 1/1.1)
so it becomes 10x1 - (10x1/10x1.1)
=10 - 10/11
or am I wrong and you are multiplying it all by 11 somehow?
Y(1/11) is another way of expressing Yx1/11 and y multiplied by 1 equals y so y times 1/11 equals y/11
also tried to get this part
but was thinking you need to multiple top and bottom by Y
ie
Yx1 / Yx11
=Y/11Y
that is how it normally is done when there is bracket etc.
e.g.
3(m+7)
= 3m + 3x7
= 3m + 21
note: had to change asterix to x due to ozbargain formatting removing them when I post the comment
@kbzj: something else forgot to put in last point
Y(1/11)
also can be written like this Y(1 ÷ 11)
so if you remove the bracket wouldn't it be like this?
Y1 ÷ Y11
@pinkybrain: Bro the guy has explained to you. How to get the number 11 like 3 times.
I’m a maths nerd.
$550 inc. GST.
10% of that would be $55. 10% is also 1/10. Wrong answer.
1/11*$550 would give you $50. This is the right answer.
Use 11. Not 10.
@BusMan247: I’m amazed this discussion has gone on for this long.
The divide by 11 just feels intuitive to me if you’re trying to solve for GST from a GST inclusive price since they would just be 11/10 (or 1.1) multiplied by GST exclusive price. Intuitively that makes the GST component 1/11.
@jace88: not talking about intuition here, which has nothing to do with maths.
prefer to see the maths proof in logical sequence that makes sense which is harder to fully write out.
e.g.
3x + 8 = 24
x = (24 - 8) / 3
you can clearly see how x is calculated.
Most GST calculation site just state divide 11.. but I just wanted to see how the math proof got number 11.
Sure people can say they know it is 11 intuitively or they just accept the number as mention on those sites
but to show it in a maths proof like my example is a lot more harder to do.
what if the GST rate was changed to 12.47 %?
Tell me intuitively how much you need to divide by to get the GST amount?
Without the maths proofs you wouldn't be able to do it so easily.
@BusMan247: you say are a "maths nerd"
okay why don't you provide a maths proof formula for how to calculate the number to divide by to get the GST.
All the people who are claiming to be so smart on here… saying it is so obvious,
well the reason why it is easy to see right now is because the GST happens to be a neat 10%.
What happens if the GST was changed to 12.47%, or any other numbers involving decimal point and not a neat 10% .e.g 13.487%.
It is not so easily to calculate the number to get the GST now is it?
With the maths formula, you would be able to get the number, no matter what the GST % rate was change to.
@pinkybrain: @kks has already kindly broken it down for you.
just replace 0.1 with 0.1247 or 0.13487 or whichever number floats your boat.
@pinkybrain: I gave you the full equitation previously, but you conveniently ignored it, so here it is again
GST/IncGST = 10/110
at the time GST is a set variable so I added it in as the value itself, but if you want an equation that you can edit based on different GST then it would be:
GST/IncGST = (GST%)/(100% + GST%)
eg, If the GST was 12.47% then it would be
GST/IncGST = 1247/11247
=> GST = (IncGSTx1247)/11247
It's better than buying from a scalper or The Gamesmen with their ridiculous bundles (I think their last PS5 deal required the buyer to buy a toaster and an annual subscription to sea world) … but making people pay $80 for GT7 for a bundle EB created (unlike the Horizon Forbidden West bundle which was a Sony factory made bundle) is still nasty.
Scalper or The Gamesmen
Scalpers like The Gamesmen
does the horizon bundle have custom artwork on the console plates?
People are delusional if they think GT7 will drop to $20 quickly.
I'm still waiting for Miles Morales Standard Edition to reach that price after almost years for a physical edition.
It will tank in value, maybe $50 off fb marketplace brand new
Even before this bundle, I could find brand new copies for $50-60.
But it won't tank like most people are expecting.
If they keep bundling them with consoles then it might
It's $39 currently on Amazon
GT Sport dropped to $29 within the first 2 months and $12 after 6 months. Granted GT7 appears to be holding its value better & is a superior game but GT titles don't hold their value very well. As for Miles Morales, that's a different beast altogether. I bought the Ultimate edition for $69 at xmas 2020 and it still costs more now.
Seems to hover around $40 so maybe better off playing on PS+ if you don’t need to own or keep it.
Good to see it more available.
At least you can sell the game on eBay if you don't want it.
Finally managed to get one as it went live during the work break time! I will trade in my PS4 slim - if I replaced the HDD with SSD, I should put back the original shouldn't I?
I traded my ps4 a while back where I had changed to an SSD. I couldn't find the original drive and explained that to them but they said they didn't care, as long as the bar code on the ps4 was valid, and that it powered on. But yeah, best to swap it back to the original if you still have it so you can keep your SSD
Do I just need to provide the console, a controller, power cable, hdmi cable? Do I need to provide paperwork and the box?
Also, did you wipe all the data?
USB cable for the controller to charge as well. No box or papers. Backup your stuff to the cloud and reset the console to factory default.
Ok got one finally. Cancelled my Amazon HOrizon Dawn bundle as it still hasn’t shipped after placing order on the 13th July.
Pre-order done. Thanks OP
Can anyone teach me how to trade in my digital version of PS5 with ebgames pre-order?
I would not trade it in. Sell it privately - it will go close to funding the new disc version.
pre-ordered for my son who was saying last night it'll be the first thing he buys now that he has a job at Maccas. Good timing.
Thank you! Finally got one!
Can you say you don't want the game? Will they refund or is that considered a trade in?
No chance for a refund. They might offer you $25-$30 trade-in, at a rough guess, looking at their current price for GT7.
Really? When I picked up my HZD bundle back in April from EB, other customers were refunding their physical copies on the spot.
Maybe trade in?
Yes this. I was surprised that they refunded HZD and took $109 off the total price after I mentioned I didn't want it and would have to sell it. Might differ per store though, not sure
@JBucks: I recall staff at my local store just refunding it without a fuss. They could've cared less.
@tallkid123: My friend is a manager at one of the EB's in VIC and has assured me that the EB policy is the bundled game should not be accepted for a full refund. Otherwise there is no point in having a bundle. If individual stores are allowing this then as tallkid123/JBucks suggested, it's more about them not caring than following EB policy.
@sinners007: Thats what I assumed and didn't even ask for a refund. I just happened to mention I didn't want it and I'd probably sell on ebay then he just said he would refund it.
OOS online. Purchase in-store only :(
It only lasted less than 2 hours but the Xbox Series X still plenty in stock since about a week ago.
Does the demand is really that higher for the PS5 than the Series X??
ppl want xbox, pc and ps5 - then we wonder about inflation - must have plenty more $$ lying around
don't think you can equate consoles with daily consumables like lettuce etc..
which is real concern about inflation
people have always wanted consoles regardless…
the problem is this RRP has not dropped at all due to the low supply and high demand.
unless they are only releasing 10 ps5s at a time they sell out every time in matter of minutes and we are 2 years since its been released
the inflation reference is just that - a reference how dumb we have become and just buy everything and pay whatever $$
they can change pricing on these at $1000 and still sell out
@botchie: the reason they are selling out is very simple
-supply and demand
obviously the supply is still low (just look at how quick this has sold out) and the demand is still high.
this is also what happened with the GPU market when the miners causes demand very high
which allowed GPU seller to push the price up to $1000+
if you look now though the price is start to come down because miners are offloading all their GPUs on second hand market, and also the GPU seller is starting to have too many stocks, also GPU makers have overorder chips (since they were expecting high demand from miners)…
The GPU makers are very concern they will have an oversupply of stock, which would mean they would have to drop the prices.
Now with lettuces
the demand has always been high, but the supply was also high so the prices were always been quite cheap.
Unfortunately cost have increase due to (petrol cost, fertilizer cost, flooding, war), all these factors are resulting in the highly inflated price of the lettuce.
The demand for lettuce hasn't increase anymore than any other time, it probably has decreased quite a lot now (due to high cost of the lettuce).
Anyway back to the point of the PS5 price..
no.. not everyone is dumb to buy and pay whatever $$ it is selling at… (don't generalize some people as everyone)
I still am not buying it, cos I compared it to how much I paid my ps4 pro for and it is still not a good bargain to be paying RRP and even worst being force to get these bundles (which is not a good deal).
But there are people who are desperate to get this console
and the supply is still quite low .. so they are willing to pay it even if it cost $1000.
Could be demand, could be supply numbers…who cares.
Maybe Microsoft have shipped more consoles to Australia because Australians pay a lot more for games and Gamepass than other regions? And Sony is neglecting Australia for their own reasons, maybe Sony thinks the kind of people who will buy PS5 already own a PS4 and will stay loyal to Sony even if they can't buy a PS5 yet. Microsoft stopped reporting console sales numbers years ago so who knows what is going on.
can trade PS4 original ?
Until they jailbreak ps5 I'm not getting one. I'd rather keep my jailbroken ps4 pro cuh-7202b on o/s 9.00 with access to 2500 fpkg then give it away and waste 500 on ps5 with 2-5 exclusives. No deal Eddie
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I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.
I don't have time for it. I don't have time for it.
FOMO :/