FreeNAS Server (HP N54L Microserver) Just Died, Not Sure What to Do Now? 🤔

We have an HP N54L Microserver running FreeNAS that has recently stopped working. In the months leading to it's total failure, it would disappear off our network and a reboot every few months usually got it back online, until recently it just dropped off completely. It was years ago that I set it up and cannot remember exactly what I put on the USB drive or how I even got FreeNAS running on it 😅. On hindsight, it probably wasn't a very good idea running the FreeNAS OS off a USB stick.

The thing now is, I'm unsure of what the problem is, I tried removing the USB stick containing the OS and plugging it into my laptop, but it says the drive needs to be reformatted. Does this mean the USB stick is corrupted or is it running a different file system? The lights on the front of the NAS and on the network port are flashing and the fans turn on, but I cannot see the NAS under "wired devices" on my router browser admin page.

What's the best way forward to test this or to get our NAS back up and running?

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  • +1

    The N54L is pretty old now, I had one for years and it was amazing.

    I've since upgraded to an AMD desktop running as a server with an HBA card (2xSAS -> 8x Drives).

    If you're happy with the N54L formfactor, check out the newer HP Microservers, they're still pretty solid - but you do pay extra because it's a "server".

    As for the USB coming up saying it needs to be formatted, that's normal as it's formatted for FreeBSD.

    If you want to try get that machine running again, make a new FreeNAS (now called TrueNAS) USB stick and stick it in (leave your old stick as is for now) and see if it boots (Note - Use TrueNAS Core, not TrueNAS Scale - if it all works and is good you can upgrade to TrueNAS Scale later). Your RAID should be okay, TrueNAS will see it and let you reimport it. If you've got a backup of the config you can import that too and it should just keep going as it was.

    Holla if you've got more questions - I love TrueNAS :D

    • Oh, forgot to add - It's not recommended to run TrueNAS off a USB Stick anymore (it used to be okay - back when everyone was getting the N54L), but now it's not so. If you're out of drive bays, you can use a USB SSD instead (like a little 128gb one).

    • Thanks for the suggestion, I'm making a TrueNAS boot drive as we speak, I'll give it a go!

    • I still have my N54L running - sold the N40L a few years back. The N54L is still fairly reliable - although one of the sata drive slot is playing up and the drive often disappear when plugged into that one - so i just left it empty for now. Has been good so far.

  • On hindsight, it probably wasn't a very good idea running the FreeNAS OS off a USB stick.

    It most likely has a bad spot, these sticks are cheap and don't last forevre.

    The thing now is, I'm unsure of what the problem is, I tried removing the USB stick containing the OS and plugging it into my laptop, but it says the drive needs to be reformatted. Does this mean the USB stick is corrupted or is it running a different file system?

    Correct, it'll have linux on it and windows won't be able to read it directly.

    The lights on the front of the NAS and on the network port are flashing and the fans turn on, but I cannot see the NAS under "wired devices" on my router browser admin page.

    Plug a screen into the N54L and see what is showing up? If it is booting, you might just need to make a new USB stick with freenas on it.

    • Will try plugging in a screen. Just had a look at the back and it runs a VGA port from the 90s!!! Pretty sure I have an old VGA to HDMI adapter lying around… I'll have to go check! Thanks for the idea.

  • FreeNAS is quite resilient. Make a new flash drive, chuck it in and you will be back up and running. There’s nothing on the USB you need to access the pool on the drives. All you will lose is FreeNAS settings, scheduled jobs, etc.

    Also the drive won’t show up in windows properly. Doesn’t mean it’s dead. Could be the NIC, are you getting a device registered by your router?

    • No, I can see my hardwired Eufy base station and Xbox hooked up to the router, but the NAS has fallen off the radar.

  • Probably a Linux OS and as such it cannot be read by default on a Windows OS.

    The USB stick has probably bad sectors (depends on the very underlying FLASH IC's used, but most flash IC's have sectors but vary in size and you cannot change them as it;s how they are designed). If you do want to use a USB stick for OS make sure it's and endurance one and back it up regularly.

    The quickest way to get the H/W back up and running would be to install the latest FreeNAS on the boot disk in the HP N54L assuming you did not put data on the boot disk or use it for data….

    • no I have 4 drives in there with my data which I'm assuming should still be intact.

      • Yes they should and I would expect them to be usable and intact based.

        Can you put a small in size and potentially in size to boot from using the SATA connector on the motherboard? Depending on Could be a spare one from a previous PC. Hopefully your is better that the pics in the following article, which shows a floating boot disk.
        https://paulshipley.id.au/articles/hardware/upgrading-my-hp-…

        • Haha nah my MB is pretty clean, I have always made it a point to vacuum it out annually.

  • Hmm that’s worrying. Have both N40L and N54L running 24/7 for a decade now. Amazing little machines. Wouldn’t have a clue what to replace them with either. Guess a Synology box?

  • Soooooo…. I plugged a 90s VGA cable into the back of the nas, connected the other end into a VGA to HDMI adaptor, then plugged it into both a TV followed by a monitor. No output in both instances. Does the N54L have its own boot up screen or BIOS? Will there be a display even if a USB stick wasn't plugged in?

    • Has a bios, so should display something.

    • Are you sure its VGA>HDMI and not a HDMI>VGA cable? those adapters aren't reversible.

      • The adaptor didn't work for me. It was female VGA on one end and male HDMI on the other. It also had a micro-usb port (not sure what for?) and headphone jack on the VGA side. So I'm assuming VGA>HDMI?

        Anyway, I found an old LCD that actually had a VGA port so I was able to boot the NAS, albeit with the errors a few posts down…

  • Nooooo…. :(

  • +1

    Are you in Sydney? I have an older HP microserver I'm not using. Not sure if its N36, 40 or 54 though.

    • Unfortunately, I'm not 😐, thank you for the offer though!

  • It was years ago that I set it up and cannot remember exactly what I put on the USB drive or how I even got FreeNAS running on it 😅. On hindsight, it probably wasn't a very good idea running the FreeNAS OS off a USB stick.

    Wouldn't say so - things fail, and getting a few years of service out of a USB stick is not particularly bad. I would say that the bad idea would have been not mirroring or taking consistent backups of the USB stick more so than the usage of a USB stick.

    My hunch based on what you're saying is that the N54L server hardware is likely still 100% fine, but the USB stick has kicked the can. Best bet is to just get a new TrueNAS image and re-install on a new drive. Recommendation these days is to no longer run on a USB drive, but it's fine if you're mirroring and not running anything mission critical on your server.

  • I love these HP Microservers. Also had one stop working on me. Older N36L Suspect it was the motherboard that stopped working as it still turns on but noting shows on screen. Data was fine so I just purchased a cheap working N54L of the forum classifieds and transferred all the drives into that. Including a 5th drive via in the the optical drive bay. Using a modified bios to get full Optical SATA port speed. The only downside for these servers was when using a monitor via the VGA connection it does not support wide screen. Fine if you add a PCI-E video card to the expansion slot.

    There placement was the HP MicroServer Gen8. Although they are a bit pricey for my liking.

  • Ok there has been some progress… I opened it and unplugged everything and vacuumed it out, re-sat the 2 x 8GB RAM in there. I then found a VGA compatible monitor and plugged it in directly and it booted, but the screen is throwing all sorts of errors (screen keeps scrolling), not familar with what's going on but a common one seems to be "error 13, unretryable error".

  • I'm going to give TrueNAS a go. When making the bootable disk, should I select BIOS or UEFI mode for "boot mode"?

  • Get a new usb stick or if yours has the microSD card slot you can use that but make sure it’s an A2 card. Install truenas boot it and then you can check that everything else is working.

    If you can see your bios screen then likely your hardware is fine. Also make sure your Ethernet cable isn’t plugged into the iLO port that is for remote management (and is really useful as you can remotely login to it and see the bios screen but it requires a licence).

  • Yup will have to try TrueNAS this weekend. Any idea if I should select BIOS or UEFI mode for "boot mode"?

  • Looks nervously at N54L that's been running 24/7 for years

  • Mine died last year. Still had my old CPU & mobo sitting around so I built a new system with that. Uses more power but it runs quicker.

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