[Prime] AKG K612 Pro Over-Ear Open Back Headphone $191.20 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 00:28 amazon.com.au (253 clicks)
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Good value open back headphone that has good soundstage and imaging for gaming, as well as a solid tonal balance. Doesn't have Senny mids, and preferably needs an amp to tighten the upper treble and control the bass, as well as giving both good extension. Can be EQ'd reasonably well if desired, but really doesn't need it. Fixed cable is the only draw back.

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  Void on 12/07/2022 - 00:34

  These or the K371s for $150? Also looking to use the headphones for playing guitar as well so worried about the low impedance of the K371 when it comes to using that sort of gear.

  On the other hand I like the portability and closed nature of the K371s though not sure how often I'd take headphones anywhere.

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    jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 00:37

    Check the specs on your guitar amp's headphone jack to get an idea of what it can make use of.

    Open back will sound more spatially and tonally correct when tuned right (like this), while K371 will afford you isolation. Timbre will be fairly similar, just the K371 will be warmer, and with more sub-bass, but not sure that will affect you unless you're playing a bass with some effects.

    If you want other open back options, look into the Drop x Sennheiser 6XX.

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      Void on 12/07/2022 - 01:10

      K612 Pro seems like what I will probably get more use out of. Though I'll somehow end up with both in the end lol.

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        jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 01:13

        If you feel you're going to get pulled into mid-fi a fair bit, I would start with the K371 or the Drop 6XX, because they will stay in your collection for a long time.

        K612 might be something you sell off or pass on to someone over time.

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          Void on 12/07/2022 - 01:22

          @jasswolf: I don't think I will really go over mid-fi since audiophilia is not quite first in my list of philias. I meant that more to say that I would end up getting both so that I can have both a portable closed back set and an open back set for home.

          Unless there's something that can do both. Though by nature of open backs that doesn't seem possible.

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            jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 01:24

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            @Void: I mean that's what the Sennheiser HD 820 tried to do, but it was terrible at both. There's been some other cheap ones, but they again suck.

            What I meant was you'll probably find more exciting and high value open backs over time if you do get further into the hobby, meanwhile the K371 is really a great landing point for closed back, particularly if you're going to wind up doing most of your listening at home on an open back (eventually).

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              Void on 12/07/2022 - 02:14

              @jasswolf: Decided on the K371s. I was put off by the dip in sub bass on the K612 Pros as I am not looking for that analytical of a sound since I'm no music virtuoso.

              Will see how they go for build quality.

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                jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 02:32

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                @Void: Sub-bass roll-off is fairly normal for open backs. Nature of the beast. Planars can get around it, but dynamic drivers don't without caveats.

                But I think you made the better long term call, enjoy!

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  johnnytran on 12/07/2022 - 10:40

  Are these good for shooters (hearing footsteps, pinpointing distance etc.) ? Currently using the DT 770 Pro (80 OHM) with a little EQ tweak to my liking using the soundblaster g6. I also have the MMX 300 gen 2s I picked up with different pads, I don't really like them for gaming (I think it's the pads but I have no idea how to put the original ones back on).

  I've also tried the AD700x's a couple years back which were highly recommended for playing competitively but I really disliked them. Everything sounded too far away, I couldn't even hear people's footsteps right next to me. Maybe it's an open back thing?

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    jasswolf on 12/07/2022 - 10:50

    +1

    They are. You arguably picked up the same pair of Beyers twice.

    There's no dip in the upper mid range or massive bass roll off like the AD700x.

    Given your purchase history, I would make a strong argument for selling some of these headphones and going further into mid-fi, with the HIFIMAN Edition XS being an excellent candidate given what you're seeking. $500-$550 is a good sale price prior to cashbacks/gift cards/etc.

    Seems you've been reading gaming circles rather than checking in on headphones that image well while still having a neutral tonal balance. K612 meets that criteria though.

    Would move on from the G6 though, or anything gaming branded.

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  DarkSage941 on 13/07/2022 - 22:09

  @jasswolf

  Thanks for your time and knowledge, I want to upgrade and would love to hear your input if you have the time!

  I have a few headphones in a similar price range like some ATH AD900X ,HD451,M50x and K275.

  I run the headphones into a Focusrite Solo into Voicemeter. Main use would be using them for gaming(love FPS), listening to music(metal) and potentially for
  monitoring guitars in that order of priority. Feel like open back is preferable and I do like the Sennheiser cups, really fit well.

  I think these would be a side grade to my current gear, should I be aiming for the Drop x HD6XX or HIFIMAN Edition XS I see you recommend with a Schiit Asgard 3?
  What else is there around that 500-1k for gaming and dabbling in music?

  TLDR: What are the stepping stone headphones above in price for gaming(shooters) and a recommended amp for latency with gaming in mind?

  Appreciate your time and input!

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    jasswolf on 13/07/2022 - 23:31

    +1

    6XX has poor imaging for competitive FPS, but sounds great out of an Asgard 3, so that's more of a daily driver/casual recommendation.

    HIFIMAN Edition XS is a good mid-fi step up, as is Mr Anan's Nan-6 via Taobao, the latter being more detailed and tonally balanced, but less wide sounding. Asgard 3 is good enough for both power wise. You'll need a DAC too, for which a Topping E30 should be a good starter. Do not get an internal DAC for the Asgard.

    Audio latency has a lot of software hoops right now, and it doesn't really matter what device you use (though motherboard audio obviously has lower latency), you'll start to struggle as you go up and beyond 240Hz due to how far apart visual and aural information can be become. There's definitely some work to be done with both Windows' current layers used in games, the hardware, and the game engines themselves.

    Headphone wise for gaming if you want to reach for the stars, look into the Sennheiser HD 800S, or maybe the RAAL CA-1A. Both are supreme at imaging and would offer a speaker-like staging experience alongside that.