Anxiety and Depression - How Prevalent Are They?

Lretailsaver on 19/06/2022 - 18:46

Growing up as a happy kid, I started experiencing anxiety in my mid teens, and depression in my young adulthood.

The older I've gotten, the more my anxiety has been replaced with a deep, constant depression, and an apathy for life.

For many years I felt I was one of few, but the more I open up to people around me, the more I realise a large percentage of people I know have the same conditions.

It could be that I gather around these people because I feel they are similar to me, or it could be that indeed a large percentage of the population experience anxiety and/or depression.

From the research I've done, it looks like anywhere from 5-10% of the population have these conditions, but I'm interested to see what the numbers look like amongst OzBargainers.

Poll Options expired

  • 7
    I have only ever had anxiety, but currently do not
  • 11
    I have only ever had depression, but currently do not
  • 24
    I have had both anxiety and depression in the past, but currently have neither
  • 22
    I currently have anxiety only
  • 8
    I currently have depression only
  • 111
    I currently have both anxiety and depression
  • 23
    I do not and have never had either anxiety or depression
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  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 19/06/2022 - 18:51
    +18

    as a happy kid

    Well u already one up on me son

  • thatonethere on 19/06/2022 - 18:57
    +9

    I think you will find it is more than 5-10% if people got diagnosed

    • jjjaar on 19/06/2022 - 22:19

      This - there are so many barriers in getting a legitimate diagnosis for either of these.

  • AustriaBargain on 19/06/2022 - 19:02
    +12

    You get used to it. Well, not really get used to, but you begin to forget what life was like without it and it becomes your new normal.

  • Jugganautx on 19/06/2022 - 19:18
    +8

    I can't remember the last time i smiled for me.

    • jjjaar on 19/06/2022 - 22:19
      +2

      I am so sorry to hear this ❤️

      If you are interested, there are many resources available for you. Lifeline and Beyond Blue are two that are extremely valuable.

  • sjj89 on 19/06/2022 - 19:24
    +9

    I’d argue 100% of people experience periods of mental illnesses such as anxiety and depression through their lives.
    It’s just that the majority of people do not identify/address these issues, and therefore make the official statistics incredibly inaccurate.

    • mskeggs on 19/06/2022 - 20:57
      +6

      I don't know if 100% is accurate - it is not mental illness to feel depressed for a period after the death of a loved one, or anxious about many life experiences.
      If the impact is such you seek help, say from a Doctor, you might be regarded as being treated for an illness, even though the response is quite reasonable, because the impact is something you are trying to minimise.

      I think the prevalence of diagnosed mental illness has grown tremendously over time, as both people become aware that there are treatments worth prusuing, and the stigma of mental illness has reduced.

      One thing we talk about in our family is whether the illness is within the person, or in reaction to things like society's demands. For example, if turning up at a job you despise for decades to pay off a massive mortgage is causing you mental distress, I don't think it is an illness. And a treatment that makes it possible to adapt to such a circumstance isn't necessarily beneficial.

      So I think a big part of the prevalence might come from how we define 'mental illness' rather that a problem to be 'cured'.

      Please note I'm not saying this to minimise people's experience, or to suggest mental illness is not genuine, but that a sick society can contribute to mental illness that could best be treated by fixing society, but the onus to deal with these problems falls instead on the people they negatively impact.

      • sjj89 on 20/06/2022 - 08:44
        +1

        You’re making the diabetes 1 vs 2 argument.

        If society’s overall diet is unhealthy, and is causing people to develop diabetes, is that a less genuine illness than those people who are born with it?

        • mskeggs on 20/06/2022 - 09:14
          +2

          Is the better way to address diabetes 2 via avoiding its occurence or taking no action until treatment is necessary?

          This doesn’t say anything about genuine or otherwise, just that it is better to avoid problems if it can be done, if only to reduce suffering.

          I think our society contributes massively to the incidence of mental illness, and saying to somebody “that’s just the way it is, deal with it” is as much as a problem as restricting access to healthy food and exercise that would contribute to physical health symptoms.

          I don’t think you are saying that, I read your comment to be warm and inclusive to ensure nobody is treated poorly because somebody doesn’t accept the validity of their illness.

          But I don’t accept that we are stuck with the conditions we have, I think we can improve society to make it better for people.

      • SlavOz on 20/06/2022 - 18:19
        -1

        both people become aware that there are treatments worth prusuing, and the stigma of mental illness has reduced.

        And don't forget number 3 - mental illness has become fashion. You ain't cool these days unless you speak up about the fact that you're always sad and don't know what you want in life.

        We've started to reward and celebrate it.

  • [Deactivated] on 19/06/2022 - 19:43
    -1

    Said I wanna die yuhh, no I'm not alright yuh

  • peppet on 19/06/2022 - 20:06
    +10

    Grew up with both, went on medication and now barely feel either. The 'old' me feels like a different person, like I was possessed to be depressed all the time, I don't know who she is anymore. Had an unhappy childhood but as you know it can happen to everyone.

    I avoided help for years, but it's the best thing I've ever done. Don't be scared of medication like I was OP and everyone who answered yes (if you are). They're a much easier place to start if you're also not in the headspace to have therapy.

    And don't be afraid of who you'll be without your depression/anxiety, it'll be a better person.

    • retailsaver on 19/06/2022 - 20:09

      What medication are you on (if you don't mind sharing)?

      And has your prescribed medication changed over the years (e.g. different medication, or higher/lower dose of the same medication)?

      • peppet on 19/06/2022 - 20:15
        +4

        Fluoxetine 20mg. Doctor slowly doubled my dose from 20 to 40 after a year, but brought it back down to 20 because it didn't have any extra effects. Still on the same meds 2 years later with no side effects and life just feels so much lighter.

    • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 10:47
      +1

      Yep this is all 100 % true to my experience.

      For me, I felt like I was circling the drain and the medication was what got my out of that downward spiral. It look a long time after that improve. The transformation isn't a result of the drugs, it's a result of improving yourself. I think that's what peppet is saying but I just wanted to clarify that because there is this (erroneous) concern that the drugs will change your personality.

      • peppet on 20/06/2022 - 11:06
        +2

        Absolutely. The medication helps you heal physiologically so that you can then focus on healing your mind.

        For me it was like I had a blanket over me and could see through it/was aware that I wasn't feeling how I wanted, but I couldn't do anything about it. The medication helped remove the blanket, so to speak, and I could then move about and see clearer, and take control of my mental health. It took me 2 years to feel like I'm in control of my mind. I'm still me, it just feels like I'm now the "real" me.

  • sickofiso on 19/06/2022 - 20:15

    I dont have it myself but my partner suffers greatly from it. My partner has a great happy childhood too, but like you started to get anxiety and depression during teens and its getting worse as age catches on.

    All I do want to say is that it may not be always environmental. It could just be a physiological issue where your brains don't have the right chemical balance. My advise is to seek some help with the GP/Psychiatrists if you haven't already. A lot of the younger doctors have been educated in this field and can offer a lot of assistance.

  • iNeed2Pee on 19/06/2022 - 20:29
    +12

    I've been off anti depressants for 9 weeks now.
    Was on them for 2 years after a fairly significant panic attack at work due to health anxiety. (Prior to this I felt my anxiety was underlying)

    Father has been on xanax for 45 years….

    I felt I was on the wrong medication but I was resilient and pushed through because covid hit.

    I still have anxiety and depression (more so anxiety) and am hopeful it will get better otherwise I'll be going on other medication and this time I will be more aware of what is going on.

    The medication I was on was remeron.
    I gained 10kg in 2 months and honestly felt like a blob.
    Ive gone from 86kg to 76kg back coming off within 8 weeks.
    Unfortunately this medication did nothing for my anxiety, and upon change of therapist they have told me it was not the first line med and were confused why Inwas prescribed that straight off the bat.

    Im in a "see how I feel stage", but am ready to take a medication that suits me if the symptoms do not ease up.
    Exercise has always helped. Work not so much 🤣.

    This is difficult for me to say on a open forum as I feel the stigma is still there but happy to share my experiences if it helps others.

    • Third_Gear on 19/06/2022 - 21:53
      +3

      Talk to your GP about sertraline. I take 50mg a day, which is a low dose) and it has helped me a lot. No side effects for me. Been on it for 6 months now with a review in a couple months time.

      I never thought I had a problem until I opened up and started taking about what was going on with my GP. I thought the way I felt was normal as I’d been in a bad place for so long. All good now!!

    • SF3 on 20/06/2022 - 00:06
      +2

      You still have your sense of humour :)

      • iNeed2Pee on 20/06/2022 - 09:22

        Thanks @SF3 :)

    • fantombloo on 20/06/2022 - 00:36
      +9

      This is difficult for me to say on a open forum as I feel the stigma is still there

      Good on you.

      Broken leg? People understand and bring you chairs. Cancer? People understand and say take some time off. Mental illness? "Get over it." So unfair and ugly.

      The stigma around mental illnesses, and particularly using meds to combat it, has to die.

    • [Deactivated] on 20/06/2022 - 09:21
      +2

      "Father has been on xanax for 45 years…."
      It's hard to believe that a doctor would continually prescribe such an insidious medication for 45 years.
      Alprazolam (xanax) is a short acting benzo and thus highly addictive.
      Ironically, long term users are weaned off of it in a hospital setting using another benzo, usually diazepam (valium).

      • iNeed2Pee on 25/06/2022 - 23:42

        Oh dw I know. But at this stage it is probably more detrimental to his health if he ceases it.

        I've never ever wanted to go down that rd.

  • this is us on 19/06/2022 - 20:42
    +5

    Just beware that there is a difference between Major Depression Disorder and sadness, adjustment disorder, grief…
    Simarly, some level of anxiety is healthy and normal. It makes us move forward and care about things. Anxiety Disorders (GAD, panic disorder, social anxiety, etc.) are different.
    This poll might suggest how many Ozbargainers report(ed) symptoms that might be compatible with depression or anxiety, not necessarily meeting criteria for the disorders.

    • mskeggs on 19/06/2022 - 21:02

      I think this comment speaks to the difficulty in drawing strong conclusions form figures/surveys.
      I know people who are very impacted by depression and anxiety, and others who are much less impacted. I don't think it matters, if it helps people to access treatment or coping strategies.
      But it does show that people who might have functioned adequately while suffering privately in the past, are more willing to seek treatment and strategies now - not necessarily that overall prevalence has grown (though I think it very likely is much more prevalent).

      • this is us on 19/06/2022 - 21:20
        +2

        Agreed. Everyone who suffers should be able to access treatment, including psychotherapy or pharmacological. It's just important to differentiate a 10-year depression from someone who is grieving for 2 months. Not saying one is "better" than the other, just different circumstances that must be addressed differently.

  • cashless on 19/06/2022 - 21:35
    +1

    Everything is broken
    Everyone is broken

    • cookie2 on 20/06/2022 - 05:01

      That's similar to something I say, which is that we're all born a little broken. We just live our lives to try and be a little less broken.

      • cashless on 20/06/2022 - 07:44

        It’s actually a lyric from a Radiohead song.
        Seemed appropriate

  • Dave Bowman on 19/06/2022 - 22:18

    Are these poll results for real or are you all trolling? I thought bargains were supposed to make you happy.

    • iNeed2Pee on 19/06/2022 - 22:40
      +1

      They usually do. Goes from fomo to buyers remorse fairly quickly though 😂

      • SF3 on 20/06/2022 - 00:11

        Rule #1, never check the price again when you have bought something, don’t be like the OP that bought a phone for $1500 then it drops to a third in price.

        Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

  • buckethat on 19/06/2022 - 22:55
    +1

    I think people throw these terms around a little too loosely.

    Sure I've had prolonged period of being sad or down, and yes I've experienced anxiety before but I wouldn't say I have depression or anxiety.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 19/06/2022 - 23:01

    i think most people will experience anxiety and depression in their life however like a cold or any other health issue i do believe a person can over come it with support

  • kanmen on 19/06/2022 - 23:45
    +1

    I wonder what impact social media has on our society today and the prevalence of anxiety and depression. Boundaries are easily crossed, lines are blurred

    • SlavOz on 20/06/2022 - 18:21

      Massive. Countless studies support the idea that social media makes you miserable. What's worse is that it's also intentionally designed to be addictive.

      So you have something highly addictive that is also highly destructive. We have age limits for drugs and alcohol but anyone can sign up and use social media. In fact kids are encouraged.

  • Some Human on 20/06/2022 - 00:14
    +4

    The more years go by, the more I realise how big a POS some humans can be. I won't elaborate, but I find it really depressing when humans show their true colours.

    • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 10:39

      This comment really resonated with my because I recognise it as a thought that my 'peak anxiety/depression' self would have and one that has faded as I recovered. No doubt there are nasty people out there but you have to be careful not to take this kind of thinking too far. Ultimately I think you want to develop a kind of realist viewpoint that people can be both good and bad, and often for reasons they don't even understand. You want to behave in a way that invites other people to exhibit their best selves, and that means having some faith in them to do the right thing and hoping that they have that same faith in you.

  • mantra on 20/06/2022 - 05:19
    +2

    DASS scored anxiety low, depression moderate (despite not feeling it), stress very high (feeling, begging doctors to do something about it) confusing results however considering my story you get to a point where everything is so bad you disassociate and nothing registers

    state mental health services and general practitioners kept blaming it on autism, forcing me to wait years for NDIS to approve a plan with enough support for actual therapy, by that time it was too late, no longer able to engage in therapy or travel, two years without medical support due to medicare limitations

    living in an unceasing hypervigilance state, the smallest noises unsettle, only distraction from a noisy household is video games but never enough to relax/fully disconnect from the world

    4 years, ndis has done nothing positive for me yet averaging 60-120k a year barely enough to cover most basic needs and refuse to fund anything medical, left so severely traumatised by mental health services neglect that i have thoughts of harming them from constant flashbacks where they told me it's all my fault and that i chose to be this way, over time developed into a state where i have the urge to attack anyone closest to me for no reason when feeling overwhelmed (which is almost always so best to isolate myself while i keep waiting)

    the appointment started with them walking into my bedroom, was playing video games trying to maintain stability (after 3 years of neglect), they chose to base the entire appointment on initial presumptions rather than making an assessment they continued attacking me and my choices but never discussed my traumatic experiences which their staff knew under my misdiagnosis, even asking them advice in getting a restraining order

    over the years, 3 attempts to access their services since removing me once i got diagnosed with autism, fairly certain a fourth attempt made, and therapists keeping this from me for my stability (a plan in the background if things go wrong)

    at least a team of lovely ndis privately funded therapists trying to help but each passing day losing my ability to engage with anyone, taken so long for them to understand symptoms trauma-related from how shut off i've been

    perhaps stems from my ability to function for short periods in acute stress states, which makes it difficult to understand the depressive side as wanting to kill myself to escape the constant suffering or for the adrenaline rush to distract from the trauma (uncertain if that is true depression)

    always tried to reach out but kept being shut down, everything can be blamed on autism which affects my ability to communicate, i should be given more accommodation to get needs understood, having to repeat events in my head from the pressure to convey, concise and accurately only escalates needs when already so close to dominos falling, pushed into a protective mechanism no longer able to get anything useful out, this persistent stress having a major impact on my body

    experienced tics/seizures, up to 48hrs without sleep (having to wear industrial ear muffs), food intolerance (oxalates, salicylates, amines), high heart rate, sudden heart rate drops, chronic pain/fatigue, loss of memory/awareness, muscle atrophy from lack of moment and abnormal things like eating x3-4 my recommended calorie intake yet struggling to put on weight and many other things i can never keep up with

    doing everything to avoid hospitalisation as 7yrs under misdiagnosis 20+ different meds antidepressant/antipsychotic/mood stabilisers/etc trialed all decreasing my function (except dexamfetamine which helped me work first time in my life), since trauma 7+ different benzos, antidepressants, antipsychotics trialed all increases my hypervigilant disorientation confusion states which i believe somehow related to my extreme food intolerance as i get symptoms like with food, it's a mess

    just want someone to help me, not have to jump through hundreds of bureaucratic hoops for such basic needs, don't know how much longer i can manage as once i reach a certain point i risk being stuck in psychiatric facilities as i can’t understand when i should kill myself (before the system would take control over me forced to suffer in a state of uncertainty unable to advocate my needs)

    a request is being made to NDIS for noise-isolated disability housing so i have a chance to de-stress but feels like everything that has a chance of helping will have to go AAT, thankfully state-funded disability advocate lawyer advising my team but if it comes to that i will have to survive for at least another year uncertain if manageable, one domino tips easy for the rest to fall :(

    this is written in a disassociated acute stress state a rare occasion i can write more openly, otherwise in chronic stress states having to keep myself protected by not reading responses, getting this out because the system is really bad wastes a lot of money fighting themselves, sending vulnerable people deeper which needs to change

    100k a year is not a lot to the government but unnecessary for me, my self-awareness and resilience if having my most fundamental needs met than feeling forced to find unique more costly (over-time) less effective and even traumatising ways around problems (treating disability before medical, delaying/refusing effective levels of disability support hoping issues resolve themselves? or lack of caring where taxpayer money goes), sick of them funding just enough to keep me alive and suffering than supporting my recovery

    imagine how many people my funding could help others, how if i was one of those others i'd not have gotten this unwell, how much less suffering there'd be for everyone if needs are given attention early on, but for some reason federal, local, state mp's nobody in government cares, sure it's hard to scale legislation to meet everyone's needs but that's not good enough when i'm trying to reach out knowing further deterioration is preventable but keep slipping through the cracks because i don't meet their cookie-cutter approach to healthcare

    • [Deactivated] on 20/06/2022 - 09:27
      +2

      A sad story. I can't believe that someone negged your post 😔

  • EightImmortals on 20/06/2022 - 06:42

    Understanding FTW.

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Ad-Radicem-root-Darren-Allen-ebook…

    A multifaceted series of reflections on the nature of reality, each exposing the common root of human experience. Original accounts of art, metaphysics, gender, madness, technological slavery, moral philosophy and the nature and origins of the simulation we are fused to, but which is now cracking up, inform enquiries into censorship, superstition, video games and the diabolical ego that separates man from his own life. Clear yet enigmatic, incendiary yet friendly, original yet rooted in our tradition, Ad Radicem confronts and unsettles while reconciling the sensitive reader to an existence that, even in the depths of our dystopian unworld, is stranger and lovelier than can be imagined.

  • Danstar on 20/06/2022 - 07:14
    +1

    The world we live in today has caused so many people to think not having WiFi for the day is cause to be depressed.

    • EightImmortals on 20/06/2022 - 07:57
      +1

      But not given or allowed them anything actually meaningful to take it's place.
      But is it the screen obsession that has caused the emptiness or did the pointlessness of the machine we created push people to seek any mindless distractions they can?
      Maybe a bit of both.

      • lew380 on 20/06/2022 - 10:07
        +3

        I think for a long time, people were just trying to survive to feed themselves and their families and died fairly young, so depression was minor problem. Nowadays, in a capitilistic technological dream, we have decadent abundance and unlimited frivolous activities to do in comparison to previous generations, we are feeling more lost for purpose than ever. More reason for a god given purpose in life but we have excluded him so we can sit on our phones, curse him and be miserable.

  • ozbjunkie on 20/06/2022 - 08:45
    +2

    Kinda just waiting to die.

    Hoping for some peace and quiet before then.

    Over it, been over it, expect to continue to be over it until its over.

    • retailsaver on 02/07/2022 - 12:44
      +1

      I felt like this about 6-12 months ago too. Not sure why I don't feel like that now.

      Maybe my life has improved, and so yours might too.

      Or maybe I just got used to feeling a certain way and it became the new baseline feeling for me, and now I've forgotten that once upon a time this same baseline used to make me feel like I was "just waiting to die".

    • retailsaver on 05/07/2022 - 19:42

      How long have you been "waiting to die" for?

  • netjock on 20/06/2022 - 08:58

    5-10% of the population have these conditions

    Under stated. It is like autism, a lot of people are on the spectrum. 5 - 10% is the obvious cases that come out. I'd probably say up to 40% of the population have one or the other. Maybe 5 - 10% have both which makes it all the more serious.

  • SlickMick on 20/06/2022 - 09:46
    +1

    I think depression is the normal state considering where society is heading. The only alternatives are ignorance, or being involved in the preparation for a new world order.
    If only 10% are depressed (poll results and my experience suggest otherwise), there is a lot of people just sticking their head in the sand. I don't meet many in the last category unfortunately.

  • lew380 on 20/06/2022 - 10:02
    -2

    Yall need jesus.

  • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 10:15
    +4

    It's worth pointing out that Ozbargain users are not representative of the general population :)

    First there's demographics. See here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/679540
    Two-thirds are male and the highest age brackets are 25-34 followed by 35-44

    Second there's personality type and habits. Ozb users are obviously internet users, probably higher on the scale of internet user. Likely to work in tech or related industry. If they respond to this poll it means they are looking at new forum posts. Probably more skewed towards interest in material things and technology. You just have to read some of the forum posts about neighbour disputes for example to see that some people are really struggling with social interactions.

    Thirdly, the post will get more clicks from people who related to the title.

  • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 10:31
    +4

    In case it helps someone I'll just briefly mention my story. I struggled with anxiety and depression that really started from primary school age and ebbed and flowed until peaking when I was 19 or 20 yo. Panic attacks, completely reclusive, barely taking care of myself. At that time I finally got a diagnosis and medical help. I trialed a few SSRIs before finding one that worked for me. I was on it for about 6 months I think. That seemed to really break the 'cycle' somehow so that I was able to slowly recover. Looking back at the 10 years between now and then it's been a slow process of breaking down negative habits. Mental habits (thought patterns) and lifestyle habits. With hindsight there are several things I would want to say to my 10-year-younger self but I'm not sure that he would hear them.

    • MS Paint on 20/06/2022 - 12:31
      +1

      Thanks for sharing

    • retailsaver on 20/06/2022 - 12:31
      +1

      Thanks for sharing.

      What would you say to your 10-year-younger self?

      • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 14:25
        +2

        You're welcome.

        It was quite hard to articulate my thoughts without making it too personal or specific to my situation. Nonetheless here are some thoughts:

        • The world doesn't hate you. In most cases you're misunderstanding people or they're just reflecting your own energy back at you.

        • You haven't got things figured out (thank God). Imagine thinking you had everything figured out and you're constantly miserable, of course you'd be suicidal. Luckily, you don't have everything figured out. Learn some humility.

        • Recognise that you had the odds stacked against you and its not all your fault. There were many childhood factors involved as well as the environment I was in at the time.

        • Take on as much responsibility as you can. Work would have been great for me but for various reasons it wasn't possible. One of the best choices I made at that time was to visit my grandparents every weekend. It was a very small thing but it was so important.

        • Exercise FFS!

        • There are some things you have to learn by doing (see above). You don't have to have a rationale for everything. Don't think that that part of you that requires a rationale for everything is your friend.

        • It gets better.

        It wasn't written at the time, but I read a book about 9 months ago that articulated a lot of what I had figured out over the past 10 years but couldn't put into words. For example, the first chapter is the best explanation I've ever read for how anti-depressants work (specifically SSRIs). Better than I got at the time from the guy prescribing them for me! Chapters two-to-four are better versions of what I'm trying to say above. The book is called 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson. FYI he is quite a controversial public figure so don't be shocked if you Google his name, but the contents of his books are not controversial.

        • SlavOz on 20/06/2022 - 18:39
          -1

          Jordan Peterson is brilliant. He may very well turn out to be the patron saint of depressed and angry men. Those who put him down and smear his name should be ashamed of themselves - they'd happily let good ideas that save lives go to waste just because he dares to ask questions and push back against mindless PC groupthink (which is ironically one of the sources of depression, but I digress).

          I personally find his YouTube content more engaging than the book. Key takeaway is that life is hard - it's not supposed to be dandy. Happiness comes from finding meaning through the nobility of overcoming hardship.

          I think our problem today is that people think they're sad when they're not. You're not sad - that's just the taste of life. It's hard. It's like a job. You go to work all day and tomorrow there is still work to be done. You're never actually finished - it's a constantly evolving journey. That's how life works. There is no end-goal of finally achieving happiness. You give every human on earth what they want and depression will be back when they realise they want something else.

          I think people today have been conned into the idea that happiness can be purchased or even attained. It can't. Happiness is a fantasy. Move on with life and find content in what you do. Leave happiness for your dreams.

          • mr-incredulous on 20/06/2022 - 21:33

            @SlavOz: I like JBP for the most part. I think its useful to put the books in a separate compartment because they can stand alone and you don't have to buy into the political stuff to get value out of them.

            • SlavOz on 20/06/2022 - 23:48
              -5

              @mr-incredulous: I don't think his work is political. The guy hates politics. People just politicised his work so they can discredit it as partisan bias rather than logical ideas that need to be challenged or rebutted.

              He talks a lot about morality and personal responsibility. Admittedly those concepts do lean more into one side than the other, maybe that's because the other side has completely lost its marbles. I guess even maths can be political if the opposing side is built on stupidity.

    • BewareOfThe Dog on 22/06/2022 - 15:42

      Not everyone here has high salaries. The less I earn, the worse I feel.

  • pogichinoy on 22/06/2022 - 09:48
    +2

    Everyone has it. Everyone has had it.

    People need to learn how to manage it.

  • Toph Beifong on 01/07/2022 - 00:18
    +1

    In the 21st century, many of us forget what life is all about. Being in the present moment- that means being right here, right now and not reflecting on the past and worrying about the future which is what can cause anxiety and depression.
    If you visit some third world countries throughout Asia, Africa, the Middle East and South America and go to the smaller villages in the countryside - you will find people who are really down to Earth, happy and humble human beings and who no doubt have done it tougher than us.

    • [Deactivated] on 01/07/2022 - 10:05

      Good advice but being in the present moment is not easy to do 😔

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