I have been waiting for awhile for this, just got an email today morning and ordered the Model Y RWD.
Are you getting one ?
Have You Ordered Your Tesla Model Y?
Ljagimc on 10/06/2022 - 20:12
Poll Options
- 21Getting the RWD
- 13Getting the Performance
- 18Ordering a different EV
- 44Naaa MasterGasrace
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Lettuce reconsider your response.
Elon's mum, is that you?
I love how you posted your first comment in 6 months just to brag about buying a car. Although in this market, I guess it's a bragable thing that you actually have a car coming.
I love how you posted your first comment in 6 months just to brag about buying a car
But OP didn't upvote the Model Y deal from today. So, can't be that serious.
Didn’t realise there was a post about model Y !
whY?
(profanity) :)
Nah, I ordered the BYD Atto 3 just to upset both "Cult of Elon" members AND the "cHiNa CaR bAd" crowds at the same time…
Teslas we receive are made in china. I just didn’t like BYD or MG styling. The others are too expensive (Audi, Porsche, merc), unavailable (Kia, Hyundai) !
And I don’t like Elon, he’s a nutter who say anything to get attention but I like the Model Y, it’s range and charging network.
No, because there’s nothing wrong with my current car.
Does your current car have a current tho
I see watt you did there
Must… Resist… Making… Pun…
Crap
No, I'm not retarded.
I think we are at a point now where there are other EV options and finding out what a tool Musky really is means there’s gonna be a market shift away from Tesla.
The problem with other EV options is the crappy ordering process, which I guess as stock improves will be less of an issue but sucks for now.
I'm not really up for the Justin Bieber concert rush (Hyundai Ioniq5) or paying above RRP for a 18 month wait at dealers (KIA EV6) or the Australian vapourware that is all the other majors like VW, Skoda, Ford, Toyota etc
I mean if the EV6 was easy to test and order I'd probably be all over that…
But yes the sooner that people realise Musk isn't some demi-god the better.
Perhaps I should have said ‘other options available soon’
Why give that fool a dime?
I am not going electric until the actual power generation is at least 50% green .EV's may be non polluting but the electricity used in them is mostly non renewable .EV's just shift the source of pollution from cars to power plants
Can buy for the performance but we don't have the infrastructure ether
source of pollution from cars to power plants
So you're ingnoring any efficiency differences between extracting energy from extracted oil, that needs refining, and then burnt in an ICE compared to (at worst) extracted coal used in a power plant?
They aren't 1 to 1 comparisons in efficiency
Have you though how much is lost during transmission to negate the efficiency of a power plant ?
Transmission losses in power distribution arent as high as you think. Rough numbers from memory and google re-fresher, It's like 1-2% for HV transmission, and something like 3-4% for distribution (ie step down to MV and LV distribution networks)
AC voltage is pretty handy@SBOB: Did you literally just google HV transmission losses?
https://blog.se.com/energy-management-energy-efficiency/2013…
You could also google "aemo loss factor" which would give you the factors for each generator in Australia (which is more applicable due to our greater distances compared to the US) and you would be able to clearly see that it can fall anywhere within the range of -15% to +15% end to end. The benefit of the AEMO reports is that although they are only updated yearly, the idea is that they reflect the closest consumers from that generator. In the US the grid is very disconnected and you can have singular generators that don't have grid redundancy if you aren't one of the big cities on the coastline. Therefore when you take an average of that kind of setup it isn't representative of Australia or EU as both have significantly more interconnected grid systems
Did you literally just google HV transmission losses?
no, vague memory from elec engineering in uni days with some quick google to refresh i wasnt mis-remembering too badly. If I had just googled it I would have had better/more accurate numbers :)
But yes, i did neglect the step up and step down losses, and only included the transmission portions above.Either way, losses across AC distribution networks are not huge when we're making a comparison against ICE efficiencies.
Feel free to post actual AEMO report numbers and then compare against losses in the fuel refiner/distribution network and ICE efficiency vs electric vehicle efficiency
@SBOB: Absolutely agreed and I unfortunately didn't read your response in the context of previous comments.
For others to easily/quickly reference, an internal combustion engine will operate in the realm of 30-35% efficiency and this doesn't take into account losses within the drivetrain.
After the above inefficiencies you also need to factor in transportation between all processing points of the production process before it finally arrives in your fuel tank. Depending upon which study you look at the numbers can vary wildly but it isn't within a comparable factor to the transmission losses as discussed above.
A lot more efficient than transmitting petroleum by ship and truck.
@treekangagaroo: What has that got to do with transmission losses? In Australia the coal powerplants are usually built right next to the coal mines.
@md333: transmission losses refer to power lost in the cable from the point of generation to the point(s) of demand and will affect renewables as well as traditional powerplants equally. The difference however is that for retail/industrial/commercial solar, it is often installed at the point of consumption and so there are minimal losses but if we're comparing grid scale solar to traditional coal/gas, they experience the same losses but as a function of how much power is consumed locally, it favours solar.
For example, consider that some of the largest coal plants operate in the 2000MW range and some of the largest solar plants operate in the 300MW range.
Each of these plants will require services/maintenance etc so they will coexist near a town/city. A two person household uses in the vicinity of 10kWh per day, a drop in the pond for coal but comparatively more significant number for solar
The environmentally friendlier nature of solar means they can be built close to populated areas whereas this isn't the case for traditional generation. This means that often the power generated at a solar plant, as a proportion of total possible generation, can be consumed locally and reduce the transmission losses.This doesn't take into account the other loss factors involved with solar generation as there is significant cabling due to the size but these don't fall under the category of transmission losses, in the context of this conversation
EVs powered from our current grid are just as energy efficient as ICE cars and it’s only getting better as we get more renewable online.
Buying an ICE car and not an EV now for that’s reason doesn’t make sense. Holding your current ICE until an EV suited to your needs makes a little more sense.
You can already pay extra for green power if that is your only problem.
Even if all the power used to fuel an EV is gained through coal-fired power plants it is still less polluting than using petrol (including all the transportation emissions from carting petrol and oil around and the refining process). And if you're in the ACT we are at over 100% renewable energy.
I've always been puzzled by the Y. When I saw images of I assumed they'd made a mistake and what was being pictured was the 3.
We all know what an "SUV" looks like. It is not a "3 box" vehicle like a sedan, it is a "2 box" vehicle. The bonnet, with a big squarish box behind it ending in a near vertical tailgate for 3 rows of seats and/or a lot of storage. Its like a big hatchback or a tall station wagon. Except the Tesla model Y. It just looks like a tall sedan.
Is it an effective package for what people want an SUV to do? Is it what buyers want? Certainly in a world where SUVs are the biggest selling vehicles, and massively outsell sedans these days, it doesn't seem to have been a big sales success compared to Tesla's other models.
Its the high roof hatchback version of the 3. Suits lots of people better than a boot.
Looks can be deceptive. The hatch is actually huge and comparable to ICE SUV. Other SUV in the same range like EV6 or Ioniq 5 or even Bz4x are more Coupe style with sloping roof effectively reduce the usefulness of the hatch. Besides a CUV is just a tall Station Wagon anyway.
Have You Ordered Your Tesla Model Y?
How to you get it without ordering?
Wait a few months, then buy it for 50% above retail price at a local car dealer.
I'm holding out hoping for cheap second hand model 3s once the Ys start arriving.
Gods no, no Muskmobile in my foreseeable future.
Yes. Ordered the RWD.
Are you planning to get PPF or ceramic on delivery?
Possibly. I might also swap it for the LR when it comes out depends on how much I will lose. Given the demand, should be minimal.
Can someone point me to the T&C’s where they stipulate that whilst the $350 is non refundable, I do have the option not to proceed with the sale by only forfeiting $350 and nothing more?
I checked the agreement, can only see charges for cancelling during cooling off period, which is $150 or 2% of cars cost whichever is lower on top of loosing the booking fee. This is for NSW.
Ordered one a year ago.
Was told my ozbargain jail history would prevent them from selling one to me.
Too f bad Elon.I heard people are ordering without a test drive. Very strange…
Ok. I went to Tesla showroom today as I am considering EV.
My first impression.
No hands-free tailgate, no ventilated seats (premium class car?).
Plastic/vinyl seats instead of leather (I don't mind, but still not premium if you are looking for that).
Very uncomfortable and short rear seats.
Very impractical/uncomfortable door handles.
Feels like poor quality inside, but maybe it's just the impression - something to get used to.
I will book a test drive anyway to check the driving quality.
Please don't feel offended. These are only my observations.Maybe it’s not a premium car. EV are always more expensive than ICE
Do you know how much Benz EQC is?Tesla seems to have the same "luxury/premium car" reputation in Australia as VW had in the 2010's (even though VW aren't and have never been luxury cars)
their marketing team did a good job then. Never think VW is luxury. Volkswagen means folks' cars. It always aims for everyone
They have Audi for the high end market@spad: We know that, but most Tesla owners thinks different. I was just pointing this out, because most Tesla fans mention about "premium" class.
@yabol: Well. Tesla is an "average" car with way better acceleration and software. EV is a completely new species and it's hard to have a fair apple to apple comparison with an ICE.
People base on the tesla price tag alone(>70k) and think they are luxury cars. They just don't realize a luxury EV like Benz EQC base model costs over $120k.
I have heard a lot of people complaining the interior and build quality of a Tesla. A Benz GLB200 is cheaper than a model Y. I would say the GLB is more luxury. Of coz, it's slow. You get what you pay for, but not everyone needs a fast car when you have two car seats at the back.
Have ordered, at the time of my order the delivery timeframe was Aug to Nov 2022…we will see!
Yep I ordered one, the waiting times have now blown out to May 2023 sheesh! Gonna be the most popular Tesla model by FAR!
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