Amber Heard V Johnny Depp

Over the last couple of weeks I’ve really delved myself into this trial. It’s been the most guilty pleasure. Like a real life drama playing out.

Anyway I started out quite neutral thinking they both had equal share of the blame but now as this trial has gone on and the more evidence gets bought up it’s unequivocally clear that Johnny Depp is actually nearly entirely innocent and that Amber Heard is a real absolute monster. The lengths that she would go to, even falsifying evidence and now has the real possibility of being charged with perjury. I’m now firmly in the JD camp and hope the verdict goes his way.

Anyway I was wondering what OzBargain might also have thought?

Edit: Depp has won his case! There is some justice in this world. And yes it’s not something more serious like gun control or climate change or whatever but I think this is still important especially for male victims of DV.

I’ll add a poll.

Poll Options

  • 601
    Team Johnny
  • 33
    Team Amber

Comments

  • +77

    Could not care less. Love Captain Jack Sparrow as an actor but really zero interest in his personal life or drama. What about others?

    • +15

      Completely agree. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with celebrities and their personal lives. Seems extremely creepy to me.

      • +5

        #BelieveAllWomen
        #YesAllMen
        #MeToo

      • +26

        Because the way our society functions is we put the blame on men by default. This court is a great way to break that. Men's mental health and men victims of IPV is important.

      • +7

        I don't care at all about celebrities - but I have taken an interest in this trial and have been watching parts of it.

        I'm interested in it not because it's Johnny Depp or Amber Heard but for the following:

        1. I've never seen a real life trial in so much detail. I find the proceedings, and how it all unfolds, the testimonies, the cross examinations etc all quite interesting. Plus this isn't your typical trial either, there's a lot of money being poured in from both sides to fight this.

        2. This case has bigger implications beyond celebrity status. It's about justice, it's about fairness and the integrity of "our" legal system.

        3. It's so clear cut that Amber is a narcissistic abusive woman, lying for no reason other than to climb the ladder. She had clearly submitted doctored evidence, and her testimonies didn't add up. With the significant traction the "MeToo" movement has gained, it was interesting to see this play out and see whether she'd be able to get away with it.

        • +2

          This was exactly it for me. All three points, but the more I watched the more I got drawn by the legal procedures specially given these were very good very expensive lawyers.

          My husband’s response was “I couldn’t care less about any of these people but it was her insane lies. You’re showing me these two pictures telling me they’re different pictures and they’re the same ones! I have eyes! You can’t cover up a broken nose with makeup”.

          Amber’s attempt at gaslighting were insane.

    • +39

      but really zero interest in his personal life or drama.

      I'd love to say no but cmon, she pooped on his side of the bed lol

      • +16

        Is that not normal??

      • +26

        she pooped on his side of the bed lol

        well.. you'd be insane to do it on your own side..

        • +3

          I've heard of "nobody likes sleeping in the wet spot" before, but never thought it would evolve into the brown spot.

      • +5

        Wow, WTF. I would have been happier in my life never knowing that information :(

      • +10

        Is that why she was called Amber Turd during the trial?

        • +1

          Yes

    • +9

      Normally I’d agree, but in this case it has caused him to be replaced in roles. Don’t think winning will help him reprise his roles but it may see him in movies again.

      • +1

        Yeah unfortunately we’ll never jack sparrow ever again. He testified that he’d never go back to Disney no matter how much money they offered him.

        • +11

          Just wait until the Disney dump truck filled with cash reverses up his palatial driveway, he'll change his tune

        • +1

          Fatal Attraction 2: Sticky Situation

          • +5

            @Scrooge McDuck:

            Fatal Attraction 2: Sticky Situation

            Faecal Attraction #2 - Stinky shituation - FTFY :-)

        • +3

          Daniel Craig said the exact same thing about playing James Bond until the next enormous cheque was floated under his nose.

        • -2

          yes I bet Disney is screaming for the love of God can we have please have a DRUG ADDICTED ALCOHOLIC BE THE STAR IN OUR MOVIES BECAUSE ONE OF OUR CORE CORPORATE VALUES IS DECENCY.

          I think its hilarious that Depp would say he would never go back….

          • +3

            @Ti-au: Because it's much better to get a teetotal actor to play a drunken pirate?

        • +1

          Actually he testified he won't go back even for $300 million and a million alpacas.

          I mean, that's a lot of alpacas - but it's possible

      • +1

        Disney testified that they didn't offer him a role based on his actions on the last pirates filmed in Oz. The crew loved him until he would always keep them waiting. Production costs would have blown out waiting on the star, Disney like their money too much to put up with that.

        • +7

          Disney testified that they didn't offer him a role based on his actions on the last pirates film

          I don't think many people believe that. Studios put up woth a lot of dramas from stars because of the financial return they bring. Heard won the previous defamation case, Depps name was mud at the time thanks to that and the #metoo, and Disney began to get involved in woke causes. Doubt Disney would tell the truth otherwise they'd be sued for millions.

          • +1

            @heal: They put up with a lot of drama, however the pirate films were certainly waning and he isn't the star attraction he once was. Maybe at the height of his career they would put up with him blowing out costs by 10's of millions, but not now.

          • +2

            @heal: Not quite. Heard didn’t win the last defamation case as she’d like people to believe, since she wasn’t a party in that case. The case was Depp vs The Sun (or whatever UK newspaper/magazine) and he lost.

            • @Laurana:

              The case was Depp vs The Sun

              Fair enough

          • @heal: There was a lot of local news at the time about trouble on the set with him not showing up to shoots and being too drunk or smashed to work when he did. Lots of rumours about the production team being pissed of and worried about completing the shoots. Way before all the drama about Amber surfaced.

            • @tonka:

              Way before all the drama about Amber surfaced.

              That helps support my opinion that the problems on set didn't cost him his role, considering Disney's announcement was after Heard's article.

              • @heal: How about the problem that he was visibly a drunk and drug abuser (now court proven), known to cause production problems and that they need to be able to insure a movie with a 300 mil USD budget. Ben Affleck is said to have lost the Batman franchise over a lot less because of the insurance and risk on such a huge budget movie. Would you punt 300mil of your money on Depp keeping it together for several years of development and production?

                • +1

                  @tonka:

                  known to cause production problems

                  Not just for the first movie.

                  Pirates #5 I think was in the middle for most / least expensive movie out of the series.

                  Pirates #5 was ranked 4 in profits for disney, still making them over 500 million. Guarenteed they weren't suddlenly overly concerned about his ongoing drug use and resulting production delays.

                  Would you punt 300mil of your money on Depp keeping it together for several years of development and production?

                  Considering the risk due to his drug use, they have already punted on him 5 times and came out billions ahead.

                  • @heal: I reckon the studio doesn't care so much, and WB seems to have kept people on with worse dramas. I wonder why they ditched Depp and not Ezra in FB.

    • +1

      I enjoy crime and courtroom dramas so this is quite interesting to me.

    • +6

      Could not care less. Love Captain Jack Sparrow as an actor ….

      Then you should care really. I mean this woman's lies have destroyed any chance of a Depp playing Captain Jack Sparrow again.

        • +16

          Why are you wasting precious time posting comments on a bargain website when you could be spending every waking moment helping these children you speak of?

          • -1

            @[Deactivated]: Because he's a fake philanthropist much like millions of narcissistic tiktokers and instagram people who post selfies of themselves wearing revealing clothes with hastags supporting current events like BLM, Metoo, ukraine etc to promote their own agenda

    • +27

      I think you can appreciate the benefit of such a televised trial. It helps raise awareness that men can be victims as well as women. And not all women are as helpless as they claim to be.

      A lot of men don't have the funding to defend themselves like Johnny Depp has. I personally know three guys who have been destroyed through divorces or lost child custody to neurotic women similar to Amber Heard who play the victim card and the men have little chance of a fair outcome.

      • +6

        Yeah agree. I have a relative that’s going through this at the moment and the balance of power is really one sided

      • +1

        appreciate the benefit of such a televised trial

        Even if Depp doesnt "win" he has won in so many other ways and Heard has lost big time.

    • +1

      No interest in personal lives but very interested in the drama that unfolds 🙃

    • +4

      Love Captain Jack Sparrow as an actor

      He plays Johnny?

      • +1

        Maybe you should check out Jackie Chan's autobiography if you think Johnny Depp is a bad guy - he's definitely troubled but he's not a waste of a human given millions have enjoyed his acting even if you don't care about what this case represents for men everywhere

    • "Could not care less."

      So you do care just a little.

  • +16

    They're both pretty messed up tbh but yes, team Johnny here. It's been proven Amber edited the images, though she said they hadn't been, plus she recorded footage of him drunk after he'd found out his mum had died…

    • +17

      Yeah it’s just so conniving and manipulative. And the recordings show how she was gaslighting him and taunting him basically so he’d eventually crack hit her. But he didn’t, which shows his character.

      Although yes he was definitely drunk and high and not reliable however a domestic abuser definitely not.

      • +15

        Amber's testimonies have more holes than swiss cheese. The real stars of the 23+ days of trials (8 hour videos per day!) were the witnesses (and not JD or AH), including one ex employee of TMZ, and watching AH's lawyers failing at their jobs.

        • +9

          the witnesses

          My favourite was the unhinged Rick Sanchez-looking mf-er that claimed to be a psychiatrist.

          • +2

            @whatwasherproblem: 💯 agree.
            Sounded like he needs another psychiatrist to run a diagnosis on him. He looked so disheveled, did he even see himself in any reflective surface that morning? Guess nobody told him what a cross examination entails

            • +2

              @payton: Hahaha. Yeah I couldn’t help notice his hair. Seriously was like one of those cartoon mad scientists.

        • +4

          My fav was the ex TMZ employee. Epic comeback and you see the people in the gallery waking up in aw.

          • @maxyzee: Yeah scuffed-Draco Malfoy was pretty good. The vaping dude driving while giving his testimony was also a riot. 😆

          • @maxyzee: that was the lawyers mistake. hasn't she ever heard of TMZ? those "people" are vipers. the last thing you'd ever want to do is get in a slinging match with one of them

    • +2

      plus she recorded footage of him drunk after he'd found out his mum had died

      Evil.

  • +11

    team johnny

    also lol

    • +2

      Hahahaha yeah I saw that. It just reinforces the type character she is.

    • +3

      I prefer the video of her doing cocaine in court, oh sorry, I mean snorting her handkerchief.

      • My favourite moment: https://youtu.be/wzxTXcH-glE

      • The more likely thing is actually Vaseline or some other agent to make her tear up easier. Highly doubt you could ever get contraband into a courthouse.

        • I don't know about American courts, but I've never been checked for drugs when entering a court here. Metal detector yes, sniffer dog no.

          And you wouldn't snort something to make your eyes tears up, anything that goes up the nose to cause that would also cause your nose to go uncontrollable faucet mode, and it would be pretty easy to know she did it.

          • @AdosHouse:

            I've never been checked for drugs when entering a court here

            Would be a lot of soloicitors in trouble

        • Highly doubt you could ever get contraband into a courthouse.

          about that…..

    • +4

      Wow man that nuts, she's a manipulative psycho even in the courtroom.

      See her lawyer looking on in disbelief… and then slowly shaking his head. lol

  • +11

    Johnny is number 1 and Amber is number 2 💩

    • +8

      I resemble that remark

      • +1

        You look dehydrated.

    • Who's number 1 💩 then?

  • Team Depp.

  • Like seriously, who cares?

    • +10

      Like totally, OMG.

    • +6

      *says they don't care about an issue
      *enters discussion thread about said issue to leave a comment

      Hey alright, thanks for stopping by

    • +2

      Like errmmmahgawdddd

  • +2

    JD definitely is the majority victim in the situation, although he did participate in some abusive behaviour himself.
    Unfortunately, it will be very hard for a jury to side with him in this defamation trial. It’s the USA, and the requirements necessary to meet defamation are very high.

    • +2

      Yeah and I assume JD's goal is essentially just to air all her dirty laundry in the court of public opinion.

      It's a really high bar for defamation in the US and it seems like he did enough for her to claim 'domestic violence' or whatever it was she said in the article.

    • +1

      JOHNNY WON

      • Insane really

  • +1

    John Dillinger public enemy no. 1

    • +1

      and Amber Heard is number 2 💩

  • -3

    They're both shitty people. End of story.

    • +1

      Literally

    • So JD's actual charity work as opposed to pretending to give money to charity says nothing? If the genders were reversed no one would be saying they're both shitty people. They would be baying for blood and insisting on criminal charges and jail time. JD made many mistakes and was pushed to some of them, but getting together with that lying manipulative woman was his biggest unforced error.

  • +15

    Worth taking a look at the week by week evidence on the wiki article

    On social media I've exclusively seen pro-Johnny posts and any small inconsistency in Amber's statements are treated like a massive exposé.
    But reading through the article above, it seems like Amber does have a lot of evidence that Johnny can't refute.

    I think their relationship was tumultuous and both of them did bad things. Nobody will ever really know if Johnny did beat her. Regardless of the outcome, Amber has lost in the court of public opinion and I doubt we'll see her in any major movies in the near future.

    Edit: if you're going to neg, at least tell me why my comment was below your standards.

    • +5

      Worth taking a look at the week by week evidence on the wiki article

      Wikipedia editors are the worst, though. They (and some of the more unscrupulous names in the mainstream media) have been trying to spin this court case as 'Gamergate 2.0' for some absurd reason, as if we're not allowed to hate Amber Heard and her ridiculous nonsense case without somehow hating all women and all victims of violence at the same time.

      The only thing worse than a janny is a Wikipedia janny.

      • +7

        Wikipedia editors are the worst, though

        I'll agree with this. However it's difficult to find a full summary (i.e all testimonies, evidence, etc) elsewhere without going to several sources. It was a 6 week trial with mountains of evidence and I'd rather read between the lines of somewhat biased text than the court transcripts.

        • +13

          This is another reason I've downvoted you. You cannot read secondary reports to form an informed opinion. I watched every day of the trial and looked at the exhibits etc (they are available on the court's website). My opinion is well informed, hence why I consider that your comment that "it seems like Amber does have a lot of evidence that Johnny can't refute" is uninformed and wrong.

          • +1

            @allie181: Thank you for giving me a proper answer.

            I'll agree that based on a second hand source, my opinions may be off the mark.

          • @allie181: Upvoted you because you gave a reason for your downvote.

          • +5

            @allie181: Arent you a secondary report?

            • -1

              @dtc: Sorry, not sure what you are meaning…?

            • +1

              @dtc: Yes but he isnt telling you to trust him. He said he did his own research and not buying amber's shit

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