Next Level Racing FGT Lite Cockpit $403 delivered with Amazon Prime, normally $500 and the cheaper model (the GT) is normally $400.
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I have heard this, but for people with limited space and don't use direct drive wheels, this is a good choice
I’d take a Wheel Stand DD over this if space is your issue.
Next Level Racing Wheel Stand DD https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07V8VJ193/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i…
I have this, but using my dining chair with it is sh*t
Can you recommend a suitable vhair to go with the stand before i blow $401?
Also is you name a simpsons quote? If so love it!
@avjaMASH: I can recommend the NOLMYRA chair from Ikea to go with the wheel stand - the feet of that chair just fit around the outside of the frame and its about the right height - I usually do have to have a cushion behind my back so it aint perfect but it works and the chair is pretty comfy and it used to be $49 - see its $65 now
@avjaMASH: Plenty of people use computer/office chairs and lock the front wheels to the wheel stand. The good thing about this stand is that it can be added to a permanent rig later if you wish to upgrade (this is mine https://imgur.com/a/H46rLc6 )
@[Deactivated]: I tried several office chairs i find it annoying spinning around when pushing pedals need them legs no gas lift spin thing
@avjaMASH: I've got this https://www.amazon.com.au/Simulator-Accessories-Thrustmaster…
And I kid you not, this $6 Kmart camping chair works really well:
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/basic-camp-chair-42649533/
It sits low enough (but not too low), it's portable, and has a drink holder :)
May I ask why it is not good for direct drive wheels please? I'm using a G920 at the moment and thinking about upgrading it to a direct drive wheel.
I think its not as solid and sturdy to handle it from what I have read.
The cockpit will shake therefore you are loosing so much information on how the car behaves.
You're hilarious
The true bargain
That's just for the cushion
For a few hundred more you can pick up an 8020 rig… Why would you bother with anything else…
8020 rig? More info please?
Never mind, googled it. Not everyone has the space to have something like that mate.
Right now i have the NLR wheel stand but using a dining chair which kills me.
They don't actually take up much space at all, and with wheels you can move them around easily…
https://www.trakracer.com.au/tr80-lite-aluminium-racing-cock…
Add some seat brackets and a seat from a car wrecker (or TR seat)
I’ve got the TR80 with rally seat & monitor mount
Trak Racer TR80 Lite is $499 at the moment: https://www.trakracer.com.au/tr80-lite-aluminium-racing-cock…
Various options for seats, but cheapest is to add the recliner/office-chair seat bracket for $70, utilise an office chair you already own or grab a gumtree special and you'd have a full rig for $600… MUCH stronger, much easier to adjust, and frankly everyone ends up with an 8020 rig - you might as well just start there…
—what is said above haha!
I simply dont have the room, and I have teied office chairs witht the wheel stand, dining vhair has always been better. More stable support
Any sim racing buffs here? I'm looking to get into it, but literally have no idea where to start!
What sort of price can I reasonably get away with for a full setup from scratch (let's assume space is not an issue, but $ is)?
From what I've read….if you're under $1k, you're looking at a logitech for a wheel set and then something like this as your cockpit.
From what I've seen, fanatec gear is what a lot of the hardcore racers use, but thats >~$1k for entry level.
Same here man, I mostly want to setup something for the XBSX
A cheap full setup will cost you between $600-1000, depending on how cheap you go, and if you buy second hand.
If you really want a full setup as your first wheel, I would get a second-hand entry level wheel, like a Logitech G29 or a Thrustmaster T248 (or get a T300RS GT), something that is cheap but has force feedback and a set of pedals.
You'll also need a rig; if you value space and price, you can get a cheap foldable frame that is less stable and comfortable setup, like this, or a Playseat Challenge. If you want something more stable but rigid, and don't mind spending a bit more, something like a GT Omega is good, but you'll need to get a racing seat separately (though places like GT Omega sell full rigs with a seat).
If you don't mind buying second hand, you can sometimes find full setups on online marketplaces for ~$600. And if you're willing to go for a half setup and wait for deals, you should be able to buy a Logitech wheel and a wheel stand, both new, for ~$500.
Pretty much what Leeroy1 is saying.
My friend recently bought Gran Turismo on PS5 and I found him a $250 secondhand Logitech G29 (near new condition) on FB Marketplace and then bought a stand off ebay for $100. That's as cheap as it gets entry level. If you're patience, you'll find a lot of people who buy Logitech wheels brand new, only use them a handful of times before they release they don't play it enough and end up selling it for $250-350.
For proper seating rigs, you're definitely looking at $600+
For Wheel and Pedal set ups beyond entry level, like Direct Drives will set you back $500+, plus Wheel, plus Pedals - all up you're probably looking around $1000 - $1500. This is excluded seating rigs
I was lucky enough to snatch a T300RS GT (brand new) and almost new F-GT Racing cockpit (sturdy version of this - https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-f1gt-…) for $900 all up from FB Marketplace.
Thanks for all this.
So, you're saying that really I'm looking at $1k PLUS the seating rig? Damn…
I was really hoping to get a plug and play setup (everything literally ready to go including a computer) for about $1k…
It's so hard to shop for this stuff because there's so many different parts.
Like, as someone not in the scene, it seems crazy that a seating rig doesn't come with a seat. Haha.
Or a wheel and pedal set up starts at $500 but then you have to add the wheel and pedal. What do you actually get for the initial $500? Haha.
@Balthraka: Definitely have a look on second hand marketplaces (FB Marketplace has been historically kind to me for this). You can often snag a used wheel and stand for cheap. That'll get you closer to getting everything within $1k. Look for listings that have the wheel, wheel base, and pedals: Logitech's will usually have all that (they're built that way) but Thrustmaster/Fanatec setups are designed to be modular, so they may not have pedals and wheels with them.
We get shafted quite a bit here in Australia regarding Sim racing prices. If you want to buy setups, you'll have to pay, no real way around it.
Some are super committed to keeping costs down, though. Making their own rigs out of wood, get a car seat from the dump, second hand everything else. DIY is an effective way to keep costs down, but obviously this takes time and room.
@Balthraka: Nah, if you get entry level gear, you can easily keep it under $1k.
What I mentioned above about wheel, pedals and direct drives are not entry level. If you look at the Fanatec website, it'll probably give you a better idea of what the more expensive gear looks like - https://fanatec.com/au-en/racing-wheels-wheel-bases/
If you're starting out, I would just suggest getting a second hand Logitech and see how you go. And then upgrade from there if you're really keen. I have noticed that the more expensive gear can make you go seconds quicker compared to a Logitech - so depends on how serious you are.
This is a great place to check out as well (note that the prices listed there are in USD) - https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/wiki/buyingguide
Thanks for this.
If I can get a full setup under $1k I'd be happy! $600 would be amazing!
Does that include monitor(s) and computer as well? Or is that wheel, pedals, rig, seat, shifter? Or…?
What I'd love would be to get 2 plug n play setups for ~$1,500 to start racing with my father.
It doesn't count the computer/monitor unfortunately.
By a full setup I was meaning the wheel, wheel base, pedals (these are often bundled), frame, and seat. Shifters aren't always bundled, but you'll find second hand sellers can include them.
But obviously you'll want a system to run it. A PC and monitor cost will depend on what you want: monitors can be bought for around $100 (or even lower) for your el cheapo 24" model, and a new computer would be ~$700 for a very low end gaming PC. This is why a lot of people use consoles, because they're cheaper, and they'll usually already have a TV.
You'll see that a lot of Sim racing enthusiasts will either buy second hand for both, or go "full send" and buy big for both (large ultrawide monitor or triple-monitor setup, along with a high end gaming PC). You don't need to do either, but if you don't you will just need to know that it's a compromise: a low level PC will eventually need an upgrade, and a cheap monitor will not give the same immersion or performance as a more expensive model.
GT Omega Art Cockpit and either Thrustmaster T248 or Logitech G923 could be had for around $1000.
Thank you.
So, you're saying I can get a cockpit and wheel for about $1k?
Would I then need to add pedals, seat, shifter, monitor(s) and computer to that?
Entry Level full cockpit including seat:
https://www.gtomega.com.au/products/art-racing-cockpit?varia…
Entry Level wheel & pedals:
T248 Wheel - PlayStation 5 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B09NNQF6L2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_6…
or
Logitech G G29 Driving Force Racing Wheel for PlayStation5 and PlayStation4 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B076P3QK6K/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_Z…
These 2 work with PC & PlayStation. If you need Xbox compatibility ensure you choose the Xbox variants.
You'll obviously then need something to power it. Either console or PC. Also need a monitor as well.
If you want to mount monitor directly to rig you'll have to get the monitor mount as well:
https://www.gtomega.com.au/products/art-simulator-single-mon…
So cockpit, wheel and pedals for about $900 (Logitech setup).
I assumed you had at least a PC or console already. If you're truly starting from scratch with no hardware or display, it'll obviously set you back a lot more than $1000. You could substitute the rig for a basic stand or even just attach to a desk. The entry level wheels easily cope with desk mounting. Mid level & higher wheels (esp direct drive) require a proper cockpit otherwise it'll shake your desk and everything around it.
Honestly go for something like a used logitech g29 for ps4/5 or g923 if xbox (both work with PC), they're around 300ish. And if you find you don't like sim racing you can sell it for more or less the same.
Clamp it to a desk, pull up a dining chair and you're good to go. If you find you're then really into it, start looking at upgrading.
This was how I started out. Its a slippery and expensive slope
Full setup is a lot of coin for someone looking to get into it. Easy to recommend going for a full rig and direct drive wheel but if it's not something you're into it's a lot of cash. I reckon start cheap and if you want to move on to something more serious, that's when you skip the middle ground and go straight for a proper rig.
I had fun for ages with an xbox, a cheap sawhorse from bunnings and G920 with gearstick.
If doing eSports competition, surely the controller is more responsive and better to driving wheel (for racing games?)
Yes more responsive, not as precise. With driving, you need to hold small corrections / corrected turns etc and accel/brake in small increments is that much more controllable with wheel/pedal over controller.
Also depends on the game and arcade-sim level.
controller might be more responsive but a wheel allows for consistency over a race length + esports drivers turn down the ffb to make the wheel quicker
Have this seat for over a year. Playing ACC only. Long story short, don't do it.
I want it! but no room :-(. Cant kick the child out or the wife from her office.
I had my wheel clamped to my desk and a set of peddles under the desk. It worked for a bit but sucked.
I picked up one of these chairs second hand and really like it. I think they’re a great idea for you if you’re not too serious and lack the time to go and build your own setup.
For what it is it’s much bigger and stronger than you might think, I was pleasantly surprised.
Expensive deck chair, not recommended for CSL DD before anyone asks